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Dog Fighting Ring Indicted #737341
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By Phyllis M Daugherty, Tue, August 27, 2013
On Monday, Attorney General George Beck Jr. announced that raids on Aug. 23 led by the FBI resulted in the arrest of 12 suspects and the seizure of 367 Pit Bulls — ranging in age from a few days to 10-12 years old. Raids in several states led to indictments on felony dog fighting charges, officials say, and they are calling it the second largest dog-fighting ring bust in U.S. history.

There were also a number of guns, illegal drugs, canine drugs and $500,000 in cash confiscated during the raids. Beck said at a press conference on Monday that some of the defendants were betting between $5,000 and $200,000 on the dog fights.

"It's a really sad day to me, a sad day of affairs of the state of Alabama," Beck said.

He announced that the success of the operation is credited to the cooperative effort of members of the Auburn Police Division, the Lee County Sheriff’s Office, the FBI and other local law enforcement agencies, as well as members of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and the Humane Society of the United States, which removed the dogs and took them to emergency shelters where they could receive care and immediate medical attention.

“The efforts of all the parties involved led to indictments and search warrants being made across Alabama and other states, including Mississippi, Tennessee and Texas,” Beck said.

"This case is much more than just about the inhumane treatment of these dogs," said a FBI representative. "This is again about our society and the impact that these types of illegal drug activity have within our community."

According to the Opelika-Auburn News, the investigation spanned three years and was launched initially by the Auburn Police Department. APD Chief Paul Register said cases like these are some of the reasons that he and others first got into law enforcement and that it was not until the raid that he fully understood the wide-reaching effects of dog fighting.

“The inhumane treatment that we’ve all seen during this case we will not forget,” Register said.

Tim Rickey, vice president of field investigations and response for the ASPCA, said many of the animals were living in “horrendous” conditions and were chained up and malnourished. They were taken to undisclosed locations to receive treatment.

Following is the list of those arrested:

--Donnie Anderson—48, of Auburn.

--Demontt Allen—37, of Houston.

--William Antone Edwards—42, of Brantley.

--William Oneil Edwards—39, of Elba.

--Robin Stinson—40, of Elba.

--Michael Martin—54, of Auburn.

--Lawrence Watford—35, of Adel, Ga.

--Ricky Van Le—24 years old, of Biloxi, Miss.

--David Sellers—52 years old, of Opelika.

--Sandy Brown—47 years old, Brownsville

The 30-count federal indictment charges that between 2009 and 2013 the above individuals conspired to promote and sponsor dog fights and conspired to possess, buy, sell, transport and deliver dogs that were involved in dog fighting.

Individual defendants were further charged with promoting or sponsoring a dog fight and with possessing, buying, selling, transporting and delivering a dog for fighting purposes. They were also charged with conducting an illegal gambling business.

An ASPCA veterinarian stated that the conditions of the dogs varied, but a large number of the dogs appeared emaciated.

In the yard where 114 pit bulls were found together, the majority were tethered to heavy chains. They were in 90-degree heat, scratching at parasites on their skin, and she said no fresh water or food visible anywhere on the property. Some appeared to have no access to water at all, and many exhibited wounds, scars and other conditions consistent with dog fighting.

The report describes that the dogs were in makeshift, filthy dog houses — many improvised from plastic and metal barrels and others made of chipboard with rotting wood floors and rusted metal roofing. This was the only shelter provided in the sweltering heat and humidity.

Some dogs pulled at chains and cables that were tethered to cinder blocks and car tires, the report describes. A female dog did her best to tend to six puppies, just weeks old, with no food or water, in a pen littered with trash and feces.

Remains of dead animals were also discovered on some properties where dogs were housed and allegedly fought, according to investigators.

If convicted, the defendants could face up to five years in prison as well as fines and restitution.

"I believe if Dante were alive today and were rewriting the Inferno, that the lowest places in hell would be reserved for those who commit cruelty to our animals and to our children," Beck said.

“The message to dogfighters is clear," said John Goodwin, director of Animal Cruelty Policy for the HSUS. "This country will not be a refuge for their cruel blood sport. Every month brings a mighty hit against dog fighting and that will continue until the problem is dealt with."

A bill, called the Animal Fighting Spectator Prohibition Act, was reintroduced to Congress this spring and has been in committee since April, Goodwin said.

Spectators are the ones who provide the gambling money that makes dog fighting and other blood sports lucrative.

“The Animal Fighting Spectator Prohibition Act would make it a federal offense to attend an organized animal fight," he said. "The Congress can bring about the demise of dog fighting sooner by passing this bill.”


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Assuming they're actually guilty of the crimes they're being charged with, they should all be publicly executed.

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Quite the cold punishment , Iceman.


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Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: BlackFamily] #737350
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Anyone who fights dogs is a royal bastard though. Being a southerner, very happy they were brought to justice! I've always assumed this was common but never seen it up close.

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They should also ban Cockfights and Bullfighting.

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Most of it is complete bullshit. Just fabricated crap. PETA & the ASPCA are the scum of the earth. Saw the photos & the dogs looked fine.

Anyways, dog fighting is one of the most misunderstood things today. Really just plain ironic the way it's viewed in today's society.

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Also, took a look at a few photos, the dogs looked fine. Publicly executed? Massacres are happening around the world every day. Get a grip lol.

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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Most of it is complete bullshit. Just fabricated crap. PETA & the ASPCA are the scum of the earth. Saw the photos & the dogs looked fine.

Anyways, dog fighting is one of the most misunderstood things today. Really just plain ironic the way it's viewed in today's society.


What the hell are you talking about? I mean, you've always been an idiot but this really takes the cake. You're really here expecting us to believe there's nothing bad or inhumane about dog fighting. Seriously, do this forum and the rest of the world a favor and go drink some Drano you heartless prick.


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With that rant out of the way, penalties for dog fighting (like with crime in general) are just not strict enough. I personally wouldn't mind seeing these guys skinned alive. But since that's not going to happen, they should at least put them in prison for a VERY long time.

And is it just me or does it seem virtually all dog fighting cases either involve these backwoods, toothless hicks or black inner city thugs?


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Haha wow, okay, maybe I should've worded that a little bit differently for Dr. Zaius over here.

Never did I claim that matching dogs was okay. There is no proof that that is what was going on. Keeping dogs on chains, dogs living outdoors, is not illegal, nor should it be. This particular case was blatant theft of property. There is no concrete anything, just vague insinuations. In fact, if you'll take a look at the (very few, very vague) photos they released, the yard is clean, the dogs healthy looking, and there is fresh water in their bowls.

Regarding matching dogs, of course it has no place in this pillow soft modern social climate, but I wasn't referring to this ridiculous "Michael vick electricuting dogs" nonsense backyard ghetto trash dog fighting that occurs today. That is a bizarre & recent (and obviously ironic & disgusting) phenomenon.

Anyways, skinned alive? Again, get a fucking grip. They will be prosecuted accordingly.

Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: IvyLeague] #737436
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Ivy, I love the 2 post that were aimed at the Huron social club guy. I agree with you completely, and anyone who treats dogs or any animals in this mannar should be forced to go through what these dogs go through. These guys are cowards who make money off of dogs that treated with care and the right way, are great dogs to have. Ive been around some very nice pit bulls that were well taken care of and they were happy and friendly and very fun dogs. I mean don't get me wrong, some pit bulls can be ruthless animals that would bite or attack for no reason. But, it's these assholes that turn them into cruel, vicious dogs and they don't even take care of them, they let them rot in the heat with little to no food. It's a sad way to make money.

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Hmmm...All Italians...Definitely white guys....


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Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: BlackFamily] #737462
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When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: F_white] #737534
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Originally Posted By: F_white
When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.



nobody gave half-a-fuck about dog fighting until the Mike Vick situation

dog fighting is primarily a "southern" thing

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Originally Posted By: F_white
When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.

those comparisons don't make any sense at all. anybody who thinks dog fighting, or any animal abuse in general is ok is a c.u.n.t pure and simple! let me help educate you and all of the dopes who think this way: dog fighting is nothing like mma. the reason: the dogs have no say in the matter. mma fighters choose to do what they do, they make a conscious decision. their well-being is a top priority. if they get injured, they don't get shot and killed and buried in an abandoned lot or thrown in the trash. fuck all the fools who are involved with, or justify this cowardly behavior! citing something as a "way of life" to help justify it is sad and illogical. child molestation is a way of life for some, ditto for crime in general.

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
nobody gave half-a-fuck about dog fighting until the Mike Vick situation

dog fighting is primarily a "southern" thing

par for the course with what you post, this is untrue. plenty of people cared, many where simply just unaware. the vick case helped shed some light on the sheer brutality of it, and it's a damn shame that fool was let out so early. dog fighting is not a "southern thing". its an urban thing, born and bred on the scummy gangsta culture that is entirely without morals, compassion, intelligence, or common sense.

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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: F_white
When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.

those comparisons don't make any sense at all. anybody who thinks dog fighting, or any animal abuse in general is ok is a c.u.n.t pure and simple! let me help educate you and all of the dopes who think this way: dog fighting is nothing like mma. the reason: the dogs have no say in the matter. mma fighters choose to do what they do, they make a conscious decision. their well-being is a top priority. if they get injured, they don't get shot and killed and buried in an abandoned lot or thrown in the trash. fuck all the fools who are involved with, or justify this cowardly behavior! citing something as a "way of life" to help justify it is sad and illogical. child molestation is a way of life for some, ditto for crime in general.

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
nobody gave half-a-fuck about dog fighting until the Mike Vick situation

dog fighting is primarily a "southern" thing

par for the course with what you post, this is untrue. plenty of people cared, many where simply just unaware. the vick case helped shed some light on the sheer brutality of it, and it's a damn shame that fool was let out so early. dog fighting is not a "southern thing". its an urban thing, born and bred on the scummy gangsta culture that is entirely without morals, compassion, intelligence, or common sense.


Learn you history before you try to educate anyone on dog fighting it not just a urban thing or gangsta thing. Organized dog fighting became a part of American culture, and was promoted by the United Kennel Club. As the activity grew in popularity, so too did opposition to it. By the early 20th century the United Kennel Club dropped its support and by the 1860s most states had made it illegal. It was not until 1976 that it was outlawed in all states and even then, enforcement was generally lax.So was the United Kennel Club urban or gangsta?

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From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

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Five Felonies just smoked you 2 with his response to your idiotic comments. He hit the nail right on the head. MMA is the same thing as dog fighting, that's gotta be some of the dumbest shit I ever heard. Everything 5 felonies said is absolutely the truth. Like he said a dog doesn't have a choice in the situation, MMA fighters choose to do what they do. You can't even compare the 2, you guys gotta be shitting me if that's what you think. I wouldn't even try to touch this subject if I were you guys, cause obviously you don't know what the fuck your talking about. Let's put you 2 in the ring and the loser can get treated like a dog would if he lost. Come back after that and let us know if it's the same as MMA. If you wanna be a gangster, then do some real shit instead of pussy dog fighting. Dogs look to their owners to be taught and these fucks don't have a clue how to care for a dog, especially a pit bull.

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Originally Posted By: F_white
Learn you history before you try to educate anyone on dog fighting it not just a urban thing or gangsta thing. Organized dog fighting became a part of American culture, and was promoted by the United Kennel Club. As the activity grew in popularity, so too did opposition to it. By the early 20th century the United Kennel Club dropped its support and by the 1860s most states had made it illegal. It was not until 1976 that it was outlawed in all states and even then, enforcement was generally lax.So was the United Kennel Club urban or gangsta?

honestly, even for a site where so many glorify, praise, and justify organized crime, to defend or justify dog fighting in any capacity is just plain sad. regardless of where it started, when i hear dog fighting being mentioned, the united kennel club is hardly the thing that comes to mind. guess what is? slimy rappers, ghetto thugs, and the whole hip hop scene in general. pit bulls have gained a terrible and unjust reputation thanks to these clowns. anyone who has ever had a pet or is just an animal lover in general is sickened by the cruelty displayed, rivaled only by those who don't see the problem with it. congrats sir, you are a moron!


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Originally Posted By: Ville
Five Felonies just smoked you 2 with his response to your idiotic comments. He hit the nail right on the head. MMA is the same thing as dog fighting, that's gotta be some of the dumbest shit I ever heard. Everything 5 felonies said is absolutely the truth. Like he said a dog doesn't have a choice in the situation, MMA fighters choose to do what they do. You can't even compare the 2, you guys gotta be shitting me if that's what you think. I wouldn't even try to touch this subject if I were you guys, cause obviously you don't know what the fuck your talking about. Let's put you 2 in the ring and the loser can get treated like a dog would if he lost. Come back after that and let us know if it's the same as MMA. If you wanna be a gangster, then do some real shit instead of pussy dog fighting. Dogs look to their owners to be taught and these fucks don't have a clue how to care for a dog, especially a pit bull.


Idiotic comments get a grip same people who eat meat worry about dogs Dicks riding dumbasses!.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: F_white
Learn you history before you try to educate anyone on dog fighting it not just a urban thing or gangsta thing. Organized dog fighting became a part of American culture, and was promoted by the United Kennel Club. As the activity grew in popularity, so too did opposition to it. By the early 20th century the United Kennel Club dropped its support and by the 1860s most states had made it illegal. It was not until 1976 that it was outlawed in all states and even then, enforcement was generally lax.So was the United Kennel Club urban or gangsta?



honestly, even for a site where so many glorify, praise, and justify organized crime, to defend or justify dog fighting in any capacity is just plain sad. regardless of where it started, when i hear dog fighting being mentioned, the united kennel club is hardly the thing that comes to mind. guess what is? slimy rappers, ghetto thugs, and the whole hip hop scene in general. pit bulls have gained a terrible and unjust reputation thanks to these clowns. anyone who has ever had a pet or is just an animal lover in general is sickened by the cruelty displayed, rivaled only by those who don't see the problem with it. congrats sir, you are a moron!


I'm not defend it im saiding that the way people think its urban or gangsta call it what it is Racist thinking.

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From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: F_white
When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.

those comparisons don't make any sense at all. anybody who thinks dog fighting, or any animal abuse in general is ok is a c.u.n.t pure and simple! let me help educate you and all of the dopes who think this way: dog fighting is nothing like mma. the reason: the dogs have no say in the matter. mma fighters choose to do what they do, they make a conscious decision. their well-being is a top priority. if they get injured, they don't get shot and killed and buried in an abandoned lot or thrown in the trash. fuck all the fools who are involved with, or justify this cowardly behavior! citing something as a "way of life" to help justify it is sad and illogical. child molestation is a way of life for some, ditto for crime in general.

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
nobody gave half-a-fuck about dog fighting until the Mike Vick situation

dog fighting is primarily a "southern" thing

par for the course with what you post, this is untrue. plenty of people cared, many where simply just unaware. the vick case helped shed some light on the sheer brutality of it, and it's a damn shame that fool was let out so early. dog fighting is not a "southern thing". its an urban thing, born and bred on the scummy gangsta culture that is entirely without morals, compassion, intelligence, or common sense.



so how do "scummy gangsta's" make it through the day without intelligence or common sense?

people knew about dog fighting way before Vick

just like people knew about steroids before barry bonds


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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Haha wow, okay, maybe I should've worded that a little bit differently for Dr. Zaius over here.

Never did I claim that matching dogs was okay. There is no proof that that is what was going on. Keeping dogs on chains, dogs living outdoors, is not illegal, nor should it be. This particular case was blatant theft of property. There is no concrete anything, just vague insinuations. In fact, if you'll take a look at the (very few, very vague) photos they released, the yard is clean, the dogs healthy looking, and there is fresh water in their bowls.

Regarding matching dogs, of course it has no place in this pillow soft modern social climate, but I wasn't referring to this ridiculous "Michael vick electricuting dogs" nonsense backyard ghetto trash dog fighting that occurs today. That is a bizarre & recent (and obviously ironic & disgusting) phenomenon.

Anyways, skinned alive? Again, get a fucking grip. They will be prosecuted accordingly.


It doesn't even need to go as far as the sick stuff Vick's (who should still be in prison and never playing pro-ball again by the way) guys did. Simply forcing dogs to fight each other for somebody's sick amusement is deplorable.

Originally Posted By: Ville
some pit bulls can be ruthless animals that would bite or attack for no reason.


Pit bulls are just like any other dog. How they act depends on how they are raised, trained, and treated. They can be the nicest dogs in the world.

Originally Posted By: F_white
When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.


Congratulations. You've come across even dumber than Huron. An impressive feat. To compare dog fighting to MMA is absurd for the reasons others pointed out above. And what's this "way of life" crap? As if that somehow justifies it.

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
nobody gave half-a-fuck about dog fighting until the Mike Vick situation

dog fighting is primarily a "southern" thing


Not true at all.


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Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: IvyLeague] #737571
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
[quote=HuronSocialAthletic]Haha wow, okay, maybe I should've worded that a little bit differently for Dr. Zaius over here.

Never did I claim that matching dogs was okay. There is no proof that that is what was going on. Keeping dogs on chains, dogs living outdoors, is not illegal, nor should it be. This particular case was blatant theft of property. There is no concrete anything, just vague insinuations. In fact, if you'll take a look at the (very few, very vague) photos they released, the yard is clean, the dogs healthy looking, and there is fresh water in their bowls.

Regarding matching dogs, of course it has no place in this pillow soft modern social climate, but I wasn't referring to this ridiculous "Michael vick electricuting dogs" nonsense backyard ghetto trash dog fighting that occurs today. That is a bizarre & recent (and obviously ironic & disgusting) phenomenon.

Anyways, skinned alive? Again, get a fucking grip. They will be prosecuted accordingly.


It doesn't even need to go as far as the sick stuff Vick's (who should still be in prison and never playing pro-ball again by the way) guys did. Simply forcing dogs to fight each other for somebody's sick amusement is deplorable.



Originally Posted By: F_white
When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.


Congratulations. You've come across even dumber than Huron. An impressive feat. To compare dog fighting to MMA is absurd for the reasons others pointed out above. And what's this "way of life" crap? As if that somehow justifies it.

Not dumb its called being informed and seeing thing from other point of veiw.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: BlackFamily] #737573
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I'd say whoever does it. We make them fight and whoever losses gets they're guts ripped out and fried
Maybe the winner gets 1 in the head


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: F_white] #737574
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Originally Posted By: F_white
Not dumb its called being informed and seeing thing from other point of veiw.


There is no "other" point of view. You're either against dog fighting, period, or you're a sick bastard.


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Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: IvyLeague] #737587
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Haha wow, okay, maybe I should've worded that a little bit differently for Dr. Zaius over here.

Never did I claim that matching dogs was okay. There is no proof that that is what was going on. Keeping dogs on chains, dogs living outdoors, is not illegal, nor should it be. This particular case was blatant theft of property. There is no concrete anything, just vague insinuations. In fact, if you'll take a look at the (very few, very vague) photos they released, the yard is clean, the dogs healthy looking, and there is fresh water in their bowls.

Regarding matching dogs, of course it has no place in this pillow soft modern social climate, but I wasn't referring to this ridiculous "Michael vick electricuting dogs" nonsense backyard ghetto trash dog fighting that occurs today. That is a bizarre & recent (and obviously ironic & disgusting) phenomenon.

Anyways, skinned alive? Again, get a fucking grip. They will be prosecuted accordingly.


It doesn't even need to go as far as the sick stuff Vick's (who should still be in prison and never playing pro-ball again by the way) guys did. Simply forcing dogs to fight each other for somebody's sick amusement is deplorable.

Originally Posted By: Ville
some pit bulls can be ruthless animals that would bite or attack for no reason.


Pit bulls are just like any other dog. How they act depends on how they are raised, trained, and treated. They can be the nicest dogs in the world.

Originally Posted By: F_white
When are people going to know dog fighting is a way of life down there,people who hated dog fighting are the same people who watch MMA,Boxing and slow down to look at a car crash people need to get a grip.


Congratulations. You've come across even dumber than Huron. An impressive feat. To compare dog fighting to MMA is absurd for the reasons others pointed out above. And what's this "way of life" crap? As if that somehow justifies it.

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
nobody gave half-a-fuck about dog fighting until the Mike Vick situation

dog fighting is primarily a "southern" thing


Not true at all.



so mike vick should still be in prison for killing a fucking animal?

but

you also think george zimmerman shouldn't have been arrested for killing a human

that's some twisted fucking thinking if you ask me

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Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: IvyLeague] #737594
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Ivy, buddy are you fucking kidding me. I was agreeing with you and you pull that sentence out of my post. If you read the whole post it says what your trying to correct me on. I said they are very fun and caring dogs if they are treated the right way and not how these assholes raise them. You basically pulled a sentence out of my post and said what I said, if you wanna go back and read it. Are you fucking serious with that, trying to correct someone and then say the same shit that I said about pit bulls being friendly and caring and fun. That's rediculous and pretty fucking annoying.

Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: BlackFamily] #737674
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Look I am not saying fighting dogs is ok but I happen to love 8 miles from one of the suspects and know him personally. He is a dog lover. I have seen all of his dogs on numerous occasions in fact a few days before the raid. They are the healthiest dogs in the area. Strongest. There not crazy you can walk around them. He kept dog food and water. They weren't in mud there dog houses wernt bought from pet smart but they were sturdy. Yes they were on chains but shouldn't they be. None of them showed anny physical signs of fighting. In fact other than a black man having several dogs I don't know of anny other sighns they could have seen. Yes he was compulsive with the amount of dogs but he did a great job of taking care of them

Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: cookcounty] #737679
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
so mike vick should still be in prison for killing a fucking animal?

but

you also think george zimmerman shouldn't have been arrested for killing a human

that's some twisted fucking thinking if you ask me


I swear you get dumber by the day. How many times do people have to tell you this? Treyvon wasn't innocent. He attacked Zimmerman and was killed when Zimmerman defended himself. The dogs Vick used were innocent, made to fight, and tortured and killed. Vick is a miserable, ghetto piece of shit who should still be behind bars and never playing football again. Once a thug, always a thug. Just like Treyvon. Get over it asshole.


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Re: Dog Fighting Ring Indicted [Re: BlackFamily] #737683
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There were also a number of guns, illegal drugs, canine drugs and $500,000 in cash confiscated during the raids. Beck said at a press conference on Monday that some of the defendants were betting between $5,000 and $200,000 on the dog fights.



That is a heck of a lot of money to bet on a fight between dogs, or on anything else. Individual bets of $200,000 ?

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