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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #785712
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In the 1950-60's I would rank
Genovese
Outfit
Gambino

In the 1970-80's
Genovese
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Outfit

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Dellacroce] #785716
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Okay.

My old balls are a little twisted today anyway because I'm waiting for a FedEx all day and I don't want to miss it. But I have things to do.

You know how frustrating that can be ohwell .


Jesus you to? they call this morning telling me my package is coming between the hours of 3pm-6pm which is a ridiculous fucking time period, so I'm sitting at home all day long waiting for these c unts while i had a whole list of shit to do but couldn't leave and then finally 15 mins ago i get fed up with it and call and they track my order and tell me that there was a mix up and my package isn't coming until tomorrow :roll eyes: its shit like this that makes me wanna go out and do bad things to good people.

That's a weird coincidence eek.

They finally came at almost five o'clock, and then I had to run out to Astoria in rush hour traffic. I got lucky, though. I went around the horn (Throggs Neck to the Clearview to Northern Boulevard), and sailed right out. I caught a little traffic on the Whitestone coming home. But not as bad as I feared. But they still fucked up my whole afternoon!


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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #785722
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Ya thats funny, a coupla schmucks waiting for a package.


"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."

-Jordan Belfort
Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #785726
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The 70s was when the downsizing happened & pure Italians really began assimilating in Chicago, but yeah you could include the 70s I guess. Things were looking grim by the late 70s though. They were losing their strongholds within city limits & losing them very fast.

'55-'65 was the glory decade though.

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Dellacroce] #785727
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Ya thats funny, a coupla schmucks waiting for a package.

lol


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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #785765
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
The 70s was when the downsizing happened & pure Italians really began assimilating in Chicago, but yeah you could include the 70s I guess. Things were looking grim by the late 70s though. They were losing their strongholds within city limits & losing them very fast.

'55-'65 was the glory decade though.


In my view the loss of the 42 gang started a sharp decline in their power.

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #785788
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You mean when those guys died out?

Yeah, like I said, when Italians in Chicago began to assimilate, the Outfit began to crumble. The primary farming areas within the city limits were the Taylor Street & Patch neighborhoods. Even as early as the 70s, those areas were becoming less & less ethnically Italian.

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #785795
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
You mean when those guys died out?

Yeah, like I said, when Italians in Chicago began to assimilate, the Outfit began to crumble. The primary farming areas within the city limits were the Taylor Street & Patch neighborhoods. Even as early as the 70s, those areas were becoming less & less ethnically Italian.

You can blame some of that on UIC. Destroyed a lot of Taylor St

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #785801
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
The 70s was when the downsizing happened & pure Italians really began assimilating in Chicago, but yeah you could include the 70s I guess. Things were looking grim by the late 70s though. They were losing their strongholds within city limits & losing them very fast.

'55-'65 was the glory decade though.



white flight hurt the mafia just as much as anything

Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #785809
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Ehh, white flight gets over-exaggerated. There are neighborhoods all across Chicago that retain their white ethnic population.

For whatever reason, Italians in Chicago have just never been able to keep their neighborhoods in tact like they have out east. Chicago was never really known as a premier destination for Italians to begin with. The Daley family decimating the Patch & Taylor St neighborhoods didn't help either.

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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #785811
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
For whatever reason, Italians in Chicago have just never been able to keep their neighborhoods in tact like they have out east.

Well, that was certainly true for a long time. But the Italian neighborhoods here in New York City are greatly diminished now, too.

The spirit remains (for instance, delis and restaurants on Arthur Avenue and Mulberry Street). But the Italian American populace itself has mostly moved to the suburbs.

The reason the mob has held on longer here is because there were just so many more Italian Americans in the East to begin with.


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Re: New York mob vs Chicago outfit [Re: Revis_Knicks] #785813
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Chicagoland has one primarily Italian neighborhood left: Elmwood Park, and more Hispanics move in every day.

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