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Re: Guzik and Humphreys
[Re: Faithful1]
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07/17/13 05:00 PM
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I believe he was probably made. He was half Italian like Jimmy Marcello. I believe if Giancana wanted him to be, it could be done.
Only a hunch.
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Re: Guzik and Humphreys
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07/17/13 07:47 PM
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Cain was not made. I don't care what Roemer or Cain's brother said about him. Cain's mother's maiden name was Scully. She was of Irish descent.
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Re: Guzik and Humphreys
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07/17/13 08:02 PM
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Frank The German belonged to Grand Ave. He was born and raised around that area. He was Lombardo's boy.
As Far as the very talented non Italian Guys in the past who had strong political connections, they basically died out and vanished from attrition. Alex, Pierce, Kruse, etc.
Aleman may actually have been made. His Uncle was Ferriola. If he wasn't, it didn't matter because he behaved exactly like a Made guy and they even paid his family money when he was gone and they paid money to get him out of Jail. Sounds Made to me.
Ferriola may have pushed him through. All he had to do was have Auippa agree, which is probably what happened. After all, Marcello was technically half Italian and he was made by Auippa into the Cicero crew with Carlisi as his sponsor.
Believe me, They knew Marcello's Mom was Irish. Nobody fucking cared. Yep they paid judge Wilson the whopping sum of $10,000. LOL. When Cooley delivered it to him in the bathroom he said "That's all I'm getting?" Cooley felt bad for him and tried to get him more, as he'd thrown his entire career away letting Aleman walk (the papers knew it was an obvious fix) but Pat Marcy wouldn't budge, so Judge Wilson only got the $10K. As GAMBAT unfolded and he realized he was going to be caught he killed himself. No idea why he agreed to do it for $10K in the first place.
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Re: Guzik and Humphreys
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07/17/13 08:04 PM
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Correct. But Faithful1 said that Scalzetti his mother's maiden name. No, his mother was Irish. his father was Italian.
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Re: Guzik and Humphreys
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07/18/13 12:20 AM
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According to Michael Cain, his grandfather changed his name to get a new start, to escape creditors, and to avoid prejudice against Italians. I can think of some other Italians connected with the underworld who changed their names but never denied their heritage, but only a few from Chicago come to mind. Francesco Castiglia became Frank Costello, Alberto Anastasio became Albert Anastasia, Al Capone's older brother Vincenzo became Richard Hart, Vincenzo Gibaldi became Jack McGurn, Filippo Sacco became John Rosselli, and Marcellino Caifano became Marshall Caifano then legally changed his name to John Marshall.
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