how'd I know as I was reading that post that Santarpio's was about to be mentioned

I remember for a while being out by Boston I really thought it was something like "Santappio's" til I went there and realized there was an R in it. incredible pizza though.

haha...Us Boston folk are passionate about Santarpios. Don't get me wrong, the original location is still awesome, they use that same 100 year old oven, which makes it and the sausage barbeque is mouthwatering. Dammit, I think I need to get out there this week!

sorry realized i wasnt clear....Midge

I do like Modern, we get take out from there often, i refuse to wait outside in line for an hour for a pizza...

Thanks for clearing that cheech

Santarpio's! What's the story with that place? Was that a mob joint back in the day?

Walked by the Gemini Club yesterday. Still a connected place? People outside looked like something outta a mob movie...then had something to eay at umbertos...SOLID PIZZA!

Where is the Gemini club?

100% legit LCN hang out, the official club of the North End, lol..

I think Anthony DiNunzio was arrested coming out of there...

Galaeria Umberto's is my favorite square pizza in the world. Parziales bakery is very good and similar also.

Yeah Gemini is in the North End..and i read about Dinunzio walking outta there, so i was in the area and thought what the hell..very picturesque..

Me and my friends actually preferred Regina's in the North End (b4 Polcari's owned it) over Santarpio's. Santarpio's is like Starbucks .People think you're supposed to like it so they do. Back in the day any kid in my neighborhood would rather go to Revere Beach for Bianchi's before they would go to Santarpio's.

What faction holds the most power, Providence or Boston, those Boston guys sound like petty thugs, especially hem Dinunzio brothers, pair of idiots.

Benny, I'm pretty impressed you mentioned Bianchi's. I never roll through revere Beach without swinging by for a slice. Oh and another good joint in Winthrop is pizza center...Seriously good stuff.

I mostly agree about Santarpio's. They did something to the sauce about 10 years ago that makes it not as good. The sauce used to be amazing, but IMO it is still very good for Boston (the original location only) and the NE Reginas is still good to but not like it was.

Another one that I like in the NE is pushcart

At the moment, on paper It seems Boston. It is where most members are. Providence has very few existing members. For some reason though, now I can't be sure of this, I have a feeling that the current bosses are just in title only and that some of the old timers are really running things but keep the title of being retired so meatball heads like Dinunzio take the heat instead

very intersting conversations fellas ... i dont know much of the springfield guys but sure did learn a thing or two...they say bostonand i have to be bias and agree but i tell you those guys in providence are no slouch ...some tough men down there and very rich in street history, ties to politicians and very old school in a sense... the last rite book is about gigi marino and that whole war that brought more heat and no paul d is not mentioned and the book is very clear on the killings and the plannings of the killings one of the few books i read, pretty good ... and the gemini club around the corner from my old home where my uncle still lives.. alot of gambling goes on there and alot of other things ... alot of old timers goes there and just something to keep up with tradition in my opinion

Hey Joe. I know how you feel about Paul from prior posts. Was just wondering if you think the account given in rogue mobster about him is correct. That infact Paul was leading the renegades and if he could have possibly been either a made Lucchese guy or was to be made if the war was won?? Or do you think the Luccheses where using him to fight for them and keep their hands clean and make him fish food after all is said and done? I know you don't care for the guy, but it's just something i'm curious about as he and his crew were running shit in the town I grew up and many considered him a powerful mobster. Thanks my friend.

and if im right, well if my brain is working right he was introduced to the faction by car thief and junkie sean tommy cote and a fuckin stoolie. And no vinny arceiri was not made. No one was made in that war but the three capo's and the boss no one respected. They was the only ones made in that whole war and everyone else inparticfular in salemme's side really thought after the war was over was going get made but the real gangsters from the renegade side, romano sr, ponzo and nazzaro, they knew it was out of respect of their skipper's and one day the books might open for them but they didnt care because not only was they gangsters in their own right but born into the gangster life and are generations of it. The only one from the renegade side who was infactuated with being made is vincent gigi marino portalla he is the only guy that was crazy to be a straightened out and his father too was a gangster for anguilo when the both of them was on the rise until the elder marino got stabbed in a bar fight.

If I remember right, they all used to hang down at a social club on Bennington Street run by Romano SR who was under Bobby Carrozza. Maybe Joerusso can confirm that. There were a lot of nobodies running around back then who thought they were big shots. Guys like Sean Cote, Paul Strazulla and that whole gang. It was a mess back then. For every made guy there were 5 that ran around claiming they were connected.

Wasn't the Bennington Street place the head quarters for the renegade faction during the war...?

Listen, I understand some people's views on DeCologero as a wannabe and a clown. But the fact is, and I'm 100% unbiased on this, is that even though he wasn't made he was a force and had the means and the balls to take on the mob which he was more than willing. Cash in the millions, big drug connects, support from a 5 families family, plenty guns and shooters, loyal crew mostly killers, huge shylock. This guy was everything a made guy is supposed to be, only difference - he wasn't made.

What was the back story on the Strazzulo hit? I remember the kid who pled on that ended up with 15 years which I think ended up being a lot longer than some other guys. Did he get hit by his own people?

Gemini club last summer in North End

the strazulla hit i think was done by allen diaz and he plead guilty to that and it was anthony caimpi's socail club on bennington st where him and romano sr and the rest of the renegade supporters hung out at. And for mr paul declorgo goes he is a nobody lets be honest here. All he was, a junk pusher pushed junk around the north shore. No proof of any connections, i never heard anyone say he knew, was connected to, or even known to deal with any family or ny families and the proof is in the pudding. No made guy ever said they dealt with the man so its very hard to believe for me to even aknowlegde that he is made or known anywhere beside the north shore and I still live in the north end with my uncle and grandma when my wife kicks me out lol and have a lot of dealings there and not once was he even mentioned in any serious conversations besides when they killed the girl and when he was mentioned half of the men was like "who the fuck is this kid".. And they was mad because they are like every fuck is a assocaite or a member according to the media and law enforcement and the higher ups dont have a fuckin clue who the guy is not even the younger guys like angelesco or a buffalino or even a richie jr so its very hard for me to believe he is a made or connected guy with ny and not once they called boston to check up on him and get a voucher or a sponser or a ok, nothing. And I say this because I know not one guy of importance knows that chump and they dont care for the guy as one respected guy said " He can go today and tomorrow only his ma will be at the funeral becuase he knows nobody"

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/boston-no...xz/-/index.html

Very sad, a kid just home from Afghanistan was murdered in Stoneham early this a.m, Joseph Puopolo, 26. Three people in custody. Not sure if this is at all related to this forum but there were a couple of Puopolo's connected through the years, Christopher with the renegade faction, and a Phil who was enforcing for Arthur Gianelli according to news reports a few years ago.

For now though, it's just a life cut short for a kid who served his country.

Very interesting JoeRusso. The only thing is that as I remember people like Ponzo and gigi themselves had much respect for Paul. Those guys seemed to think he was a big shot. Even though he wasn't made many people like ponzo and gigi and other associates gave Paul the respect of someone powerful. I think there is some top secret shit that nobody has ever reported as it was part of the plan of grabbing power to operate in New England by the Lucceses taking control from the genoveses. Shit we'd never know about. Perhaps there was some really hush, hush shit between the Luchesse's and Paul, where they did not check up on Paul through the made friends of the Genoveses in the North End. Why would they want to know what up from him from the north End guys who sided with their enemies, the genoveses. that would give up there plan, no??? You don't think that's a possibility?

I just can't see a straight up wannabe getting the respect and fear that he did? Maybe i am biased because i grew up on the North Shore, but why did the LCN never cross him or fuck him up for throwing around Ray Jrs name and the Luchesse name? Questions, questions, questions....They'll probably never be answered. I thank you very much Joe for your answers and you seem to have tremendous knowledge of the scene .

I wonder what would have been if he didn't end up in the can for life.. I know for certain that a huge war chest was being built and the DC crew had people not afraid to go down in flames.

caprese thanks for the respect and appreciation and i too like and respect your theory and way of thinking becuase in this life anything is possible. Let me say this I grew up with rico and love him very much, seen him when i first got indicted in january and he gave me a nice bag of cosmectics, buy anyway since a kid rico was always in some shit and is very capable alot of things and as a kid i remember he brought alot of heat to the neighborhood and some older guys sat him down and gave him some smacks and verbal abuse he still laughs about it lol, but caprese you have to remember here, ponzo and gigi was in the same business as paulie they all pushed junk. Gigi, rico and the rest of the cohorts had some shit, c&w or d&w coke on wheels or drugs on wheels, whatever the name was it was their business : drugs and thats where the respect came from because they where all pushers not because paul was some fucking stand up top notch gangster becuase he was not. That whole war was a boston thing. It was some strong respected capo's going to take over becuase they didnt respect the boss or feel like he was running things the way it was supposed to be ran. They didnt want to be under that tirade so they whack the underboss, attempt a hit on the boss follower and goes to gotti gets permission to whack the boss if he dont step down and makes new guys before he steps down. Then came the indictments and so forth then frank took control and with bobby russo permission the eastie guys started the war all over again because frank wasnt trying to let them eat and frannk was trying to strong arm them not by force but by name and the eastie guys damn near won the war if it wasnt for another indictment. Here's how much paul decologero had a play in the whole thing he was so limited he beat the case at trial becuase he wasnt nearly involved nor a factor. So the luchesse's or genevose had nothing to do with this thing and if he did know anybody of that nature why didnt he get a hand in being more lucrative in the rackets with some made and known gangsters? If he did know the luchesse's why didnt they make him and open a door for them here in mass? He did have his own little cohorts consisitng of his little brother his friends etc... Paul was just a wannabe smack pusher that when the girl got killed and he was brought up the skipper's said who the fuck is this fucking kid using our name as a fuckin sword and reputation and one guy said he runs with the junk pushers in eastie and is a nobody. Someone contacted some eastie guys and he was of no importance and no relations to no one and Basically of my understanding the indictment on him came at a perfect time becuase his time ran out and thats my understanding of mr paul decologero. I cant be wrong on this becuase I just around about this paul just to get a feedback and thats basically what is said his indictment was perfect timing