I wonder where the figure "750-member Mafia family" came from. They have about 150 made men, several thousand associates depending on how you define associate.

Why didn't Capeci report this first? My guess it is complete bullshit and/or someone in the gambino family is trying to send out mixed signals on the leadership.

Most of the Gambino/Castellano guys have died, reitred or are near retirement. The Sicilians seem to be in charge now. And there are still some Gotti guys out there with power like the Corozzos and Tommy Sneakers.

Ivy, I was thinking the same thing as Little Nicky. However, I quickly surmised that the 750 figure is really 150 made guys, 600 associates, depending upon how they define associates in New York. That would be 4 to 1 which would make sense. in other words, out of the 750, 20% (150 are made) and 80% (600) are being included as Associates of some sort. That seems accurate based upon all of our discussions.

I literally think they just guess at it. Being on the record technically is an associate. But when theres a bust, every guy who does business with any form of lcn is an associate. The difference to me is either ur a connected guy or ur not. the handicapper of a big book may be on the record, so may a few half sheets, but the rest arent really "associates" their more like criminal acquaintances.

Ovation, Jojo corozzo is just as respected as his brother. Maybe you are thinking of Blaise? Nicky is feared, but Jojo is liked. Both are huge money machines and politicians. They were never Gotti guys either. Gotti took Nickys stripes when he got boss and Nicky basically ran his crew anyways. Gotti decided it was impossible to keep a guy as powerful as corozzo down, and gave him back his rank. When gotti went down and he put junior as head of a panel that was basically the end of gottis being in power. The corozzos basically called the shots. A lot of captains still listen to their word. The gotti guys that are left arent gotti guys any more. Damico isnt a captain. Trucchio and Cacciapola both are closer to corozzos, except a few of Tommys guys. Other queens guys (gottis old nhood) are/were corozzo guys. Louis Mastrangelo was JoJos driver and is the only reason hes captain.

Daniel Marino i think of more as being allied with Castellano. Not gotti or gambino. He had the corozzos support to become boss, but he turned it down, so they went to a ruling panel. Only gambino was left so he promoted someone younger to take over for him. When cefalu got picked who was running the family on the street???? you guys still think that cefalu got elected? Its laughable, imagine 20 guys sitting at a big ass table, doing what putting names in a hat? No doubt Cali became under, look who hes so close to.

How is cali lowkey? Look at his fucking house! Low key cause he hasnt been caught? He hasnt done anything. Hes a half a gangster. Hes like TV, a business man who turned gangster. Never cracked a egg, pushed a button, however you wanna say it. Guys like that, especially if they do not have senority cannot succesfully run a family. Look at history for this... Junior Gotti, Jackie DAmico, Mikey Scars Dileonardo. Never were respected. The top guys in the family are John Gambino Nick Corozzo, Danny Marino. Lorenzo Mannino runs the heaviest crew in brooklyn right now, he will be one of the top guys in the family in a few years. He is already close.

Lorenzo Mannino runs the heaviest crew in brooklyn right now, he will be one of the top guys in the family in a few years. He is already close.

Are there still any guys who are made and unknown to law enforcement?

Cali was a capo too wasn't he?

Hahaha - you can all think that skinnys stuff is "great" if you would like. Jojo is a fucking joke and Cali is not. I guarantee it. Are you seriously comparing Francesco Cali to Vinny TV!!!!!?????!!!!! Jesus. Go gamble.

Ovation, Jojo corozzo is just as respected as his brother. Maybe you are thinking of Blaise? Nicky is feared, but Jojo is liked. Both are huge money machines and politicians. They were never Gotti guys either. Gotti took Nickys stripes when he got boss and Nicky basically ran his crew anyways. Gotti decided it was impossible to keep a guy as powerful as corozzo down, and gave him back his rank. When gotti went down and he put junior as head of a panel that was basically the end of gottis being in power. The corozzos basically called the shots. A lot of captains still listen to their word. The gotti guys that are left arent gotti guys any more. Damico isnt a captain. Trucchio and Cacciapola both are closer to corozzos, except a few of Tommys guys. Other queens guys (gottis old nhood) are/were corozzo guys. Louis Mastrangelo was JoJos driver and is the only reason hes captain.

Daniel Marino i think of more as being allied with Castellano. Not gotti or gambino. He had the corozzos support to become boss, but he turned it down, so they went to a ruling panel. Only gambino was left so he promoted someone younger to take over for him. When cefalu got picked who was running the family on the street???? you guys still think that cefalu got elected? Its laughable, imagine 20 guys sitting at a big ass table, doing what putting names in a hat? No doubt Cali became under, look who hes so close to.

How is cali lowkey? Look at his fucking house! Low key cause he hasnt been caught? He hasnt done anything. Hes a half a gangster. Hes like TV, a business man who turned gangster. Never cracked a egg, pushed a button, however you wanna say it. Guys like that, especially if they do not have senority cannot succesfully run a family. Look at history for this... Junior Gotti, Jackie DAmico, Mikey Scars Dileonardo. Never were respected. The top guys in the family are John Gambino Nick Corozzo, Danny Marino. Lorenzo Mannino runs the heaviest crew in brooklyn right now, he will be one of the top guys in the family in a few years. He is already close.

Has this story been confirmed or even commented on by any trusted source like capeci? Cause if not it kinda sounds like bs.

This is basically the reason i take such long ass breaks from coming here. I got Tommy here who thinks im full of shit. How would i know? Doesnt matter. I say he isnt a tough guy. You call bullshit. Fine. You ask how i knnow x, y, and z. fine, but how the fuck would you know? Your in fucking england. You got no right to be calling bullshit on something you cant find on the internet my man. If you think im a liar fine, but neither of us can site any proof so arguing is pointless. Then i got this dumb ass Ovation, who thinks if he puts nyc into his location that ppl think hes a local guy and his word counts. How many fuckin pms have you sent me asking about ppl saying "please, please, Pleeaaaaaaasssseee!" No shame in asking questions, i do that myself. but First you tell everyone despite what skinny says, Tough Tony is poor as shit, not a heavy guy at all. Bullshit. Now Jojo corozzo is a joke according to you. What heavy gangster are you to call him a joke? Are you carlo gambino's ghost come to haunt us on gangsterbb??? Your a fucking joke. You cant guarentee shit. Just saying Take this to the bank doesnt make it fact.

To tommy and ovation and whoever else. This is a forum. If you dont know me personally how will u know what im saying is real or not? What else do you have to go on? Most this shit cant even be found on the internet. If dont believe me, trust me thats fine. I dont give a fuck. You wanna take ovations word over mine feel free. You dont believe federici or corozzos are heavys or think my posts about the power shifts of the gambinos is all shit, fine.

Truth is i don know mmuch about that whole crew. I hear general things like this. Sorry giancarlo if i knew id tell you bro. Theres few crews i could name the guys off my head but BK crews are not one of them. I think Mannino has Gambinos crew but i couldnt say for sure. Cali has a lot of respect yea, but as boss his decisions will be second guessed by some guys who have seniority or have notches on their stick. Its only natural, all in all tho, he will probly make a good boss. Hes well liked and while he has Gambino and Cefalus support he will be respected on the street. I hear shit, i pass it on. Carmela knows these guys personally and doesnt talk about them much. I get that bc i do the same shit for a few ppl in my neck of the woods. Your more likely to get a answer out of me about brooklyn or queens than you would about jersey. But again, its a forum, its all about (hopefully polite) conversation.

Skinny, "street guys" like you are always appreciated by most except a few people with hard-ons....one question, any idea if the Sicilian Gambinos are still working with the other side (such as importing H)? Thanks.

I'll speak for myself, because I did mention that i agreed with skinny (only about Cali, though). I'm not in any way saying he's a joke, he's not. I'm just saying people are talking about him like he's some sort of mafia God that has super power from here to Sicily and back. Over the years, he's been somewhat over exaggerated on here.

Next. I guarantee YOU that you can't guarantee anything about Cali.

Lastly, don't call him Francesco. Not even his mother calls him that.