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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: GerryLang] #714979
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Originally Posted By: GerryLang


When did acknowledign the US is chalk full of illegal immigrants who commit a lot of crime make one "anti-Hispanic?" I never heard anyone describe themselves as "Hispanic" either, is there some country called Hispania I missed in 17 years of schooling? "Hispanic" is a loaded term that has no meaning in real life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania


Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: ThePolakVet] #714984
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[I want these scum to be abused ten times more than they did to these girls and their families. They trully deserve it. If I was in the parents place, I'd get three more jobs and I'd pay everyone starting from the lowest prison guard to the Aryan Brotherhood so these scums gets raped and beaten everyday and NOT killed. So it'd be a bigger nightmare than for these girls.


And would you be able to abuse and rape them?

Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: ThePolakVet] #714989
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Originally Posted By: ThePolakVet
Originally Posted By: GerryLang


When did acknowledign the US is chalk full of illegal immigrants who commit a lot of crime make one "anti-Hispanic?" I never heard anyone describe themselves as "Hispanic" either, is there some country called Hispania I missed in 17 years of schooling? "Hispanic" is a loaded term that has no meaning in real life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania


This has nothing to do with the current day situation.

Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: Danito] #715025
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[I want these scum to be abused ten times more than they did to these girls and their families. They trully deserve it. If I was in the parents place, I'd get three more jobs and I'd pay everyone starting from the lowest prison guard to the Aryan Brotherhood so these scums gets raped and beaten everyday and NOT killed. So it'd be a bigger nightmare than for these girls.


And would you be able to abuse and rape them?

If I was a relative of one of these girls, I'm sure I'd be able to torture the guy who kidnapped them. I think every self confident man would be able to take revenge if someone close to him was harmed. And to answer your question, no I wouldn't be able as I'm not homosexual.


Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: goombah] #715028
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putting the death penalty aside for a minute, if we are going to give people like this long prison sentences, how about no more PC for these fucks? why should a rapist/child molester get special protection? let the prisoners sort it out themselves!


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: Five_Felonies] #715074
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*******UPDATE 5/10/13***Kidnap victim Michelle Knight has requested that her family members not visit her in the hospital as she recovers from what has been an 11-year ordeal, apparently because those closest to her didn’t look for her after she disappeared.

*******UPDATE*******Michelle Knight is still being treated for anxiety at Metro Health Medical Center tonight. But Monday reports that Michelle is hospitalized, for possible reconstructive surgery, to heal injuries suffered at the hands of her attacker during her decade in captivity.
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Friends a special prayer to the forgotten victim Michelle Knight the first one kidnapped and longest one held, her disappearance was never really reported and she was never even looked for because she had family problems way before this even happened to her and her mom and family was a trip she still has refused to even see her mom so far, who came back up North for her 15 mins of fame. Michelle was the one called on by Ariel Castro to do all the dirty work and she was the oldest and the one that delivered Amanda Berry's child and when that child stopped breathing was told by Ariel Castro if that baby dies so will you, so she performed mouth to mouth and revived that child. He impregnated her 5 times but each time he would deliberately beat the baby out of her or starve it out! Remember she was there two years before the other girls ever got there, she is still in the hospital really going through mental stuff more so then the other girls she is the most frail cause he tortured her and starved her more so then the other two. Her face is badly disfigured the bones they say from the beatings and no health attendance to her wounds and that her hearing is practically gone from all the beatings. She doesn't have a home to go to and does not have the family support like the other two so a special prayer to Michelle Knight the forgotten victim.

This just breaks my heart in a million pieces.


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: dontomasso] #715080
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Apples and oranges. Yes they are apparently scum (they are presumed innocent btw) and if they are convicted then they will officially be scum.

Opposition to the death penalty is an entirely different issue. In this case they could get the death penalty for Federal charges of kidnapping. It certainly did not deter these people from doing what they did.


Who said anything about "deterrence?" That's an old straw man argument that you anti-capital punishment libs like to bring up. The guy is a kidnapper, rapist, and murderer. He deserves the death penalty, plain and simple. Save your mealy mouth "apples and oranges" BS.

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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: IvyLeague] #715096
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I hope they get the death penalty but first I want them to suffer as much as those girls are. Fucking pieces of shit.


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: Mignon] #715098
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Originally Posted By: Mignon
I hope they get the death penalty but first I want them to suffer as much as those girls are. Fucking pieces of shit.

Pretty sure only the one brother (Ariel Castro) has been charged. I read the 2 other brothers won't be charged at all in the case.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/09/ari...rosecutor-says/

Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: IvyLeague] #715099
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Apples and oranges. Yes they are apparently scum (they are presumed innocent btw) and if they are convicted then they will officially be scum.

Opposition to the death penalty is an entirely different issue. In this case they could get the death penalty for Federal charges of kidnapping. It certainly did not deter these people from doing what they did.


Who said anything about "deterrence?" That's an old straw man argument that you anti-capital punishment libs like to bring up. The guy is a kidnapper, rapist, and murderer. He deserves the death penalty, plain and simple. Save your mealy mouth "apples and oranges" BS.


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: Camarel] #715125
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been a few of these cases recently.It seems more common for people like this to do it to their own kids or step kids , than actually going out to kidnap others.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz2QvSHYAut

There was another case where the parents had put their 6 year old autistic son in a cage too.

Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: goombah] #715126
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34 girls were reported missing in this same general area over the last few years. Some within a few weeks or months of each other.

What does that say to the police who watch out for people in that area. That can't be the norm can it?

Or was it that the area was poor and mostly non white? Do they write these people off as run a ways?


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: fathersson] #715127
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didnt the girls say that there was another girl with them that just mysteriously dissapeared one day.

34 girls, that is pretty fucked up. Its not impossible that this guy could have something to do with it, the green river killer killed more than that.

Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: Scorsese] #715188
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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
didnt the girls say that there was another girl with them that just mysteriously dissapeared one day.

34 girls, that is pretty fucked up. Its not impossible that this guy could have something to do with it, the green river killer killed more than that.


He's a suspect in the Ashley Summers case a girl who went missin in 2007 when she was 14. Here's an article about it - http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/05/ashley-summers-cleveland-kidnapping/

Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: goombah] #715189
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Wow. Something that started out as a news story about the miracle of ending the torture these girls have endured has degenerated into a left v. right argument over what punishment the kidnappers should get. Color me surprised.

I can't imagine what these three girls have suffered and I hope and pray that they somehow find some peace.


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: goombah] #715193
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If deciding the punishment for this guy was be up to me, I would tie him up in the middle of the town where these atrocities occurred and let the local populace (and others who would undoubtedly come from far away) do whatever they wanted to this guy.

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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: IvyLeague] #715198
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Who said anything about "deterrence?" That's an old straw man argument that you anti-capital punishment libs like to bring up. The guy is a kidnapper, rapist, and murderer. He deserves the death penalty, plain and simple. Save your mealy mouth "apples and oranges" BS.

I actually agree with Ivy here. The death penalty should only be applied as a matter of justice. It will never work as a deterrent anyway. You can't deter people like this with the threat of death because they just don't care.


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: dontomasso] #715256
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso


Come on, Lilo, why let a little thing like the fact they are U.S. citizens get in the way of anti-Hispanic rants about immigration.


rolleyes lol


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: GerryLang] #715258
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Originally Posted By: GerryLang

Soon as I read their names I thought they might be illegal immigrants. The immigration policies in this country stink to the high heavens. Most countries have some requirements for immigrants to come into their country, we let anyone in. That is why I call this whole Homeland Security stuff a racket.

Originally Posted By: Lilo

They are apparently of Puerto Rican heritage. So they are American citizens by definition. They aren't immigrants.

Originally Posted By: GerryLang

When did acknowledign the US is chalk full of illegal immigrants who commit a lot of crime make one "anti-Hispanic?" I never heard anyone describe themselves as "Hispanic" either, is there some country called Hispania I missed in 17 years of schooling? "Hispanic" is a loaded term that has no meaning in real life.


You made an incorrect assumption on their immigration status based on their last name. Why?

Anyway there are millions of people who describe themselves as Hispanic or Latino. I even know a few in relatively monochrome Michigan. "Hispanic" is a linguistic/cultural/ethnic term that can include anyone from Ted Cruz to Natalie Martinez to George Lopez to Louis CK. It obviously has meaning to those who self-identify as Hispanic.

And while I am not at all a fan of illegal immigration, illegal immigrants do not disproportionately commit crime.

But again the illegal immigrant crime rate, good or bad, is completely and thoroughly irrelevant to this case as Ariel Castro was born a US citizen.


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: goombah] #715273
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Lilo, please stop trying to obfuscate with facts. wink


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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Lilo, please stop trying to obfuscate with facts.


Yeah. You can go blind from doing that.


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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: goombah] #715286
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I read a report that one of the victims wants no contact with most of her family. I'm not sure why, but I hope her privacy on this is respected.

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I saw that too Kly. They speculated that it was because parents were told by police that since she was of age (21 I think) that she could have just ran away. Maybe she feels they didn't look for her? confused Then again, that's only speculation. It very well could be she had a rotten relationship with her family. But I agree, she needs privacy. It sounds like she may need extra help recovering if she can't count on her family. Pretty sad.



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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: Lilo] #715302
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Originally Posted By: GerryLang

Soon as I read their names I thought they might be illegal immigrants. The immigration policies in this country stink to the high heavens. Most countries have some requirements for immigrants to come into their country, we let anyone in. That is why I call this whole Homeland Security stuff a racket.


Why do some Board members insist on typing inane posts. P.L 82-414, Immigration and Nationality Act was passed by Congress in the early 50s. It is still the primary law governing immigration to the US. Just a little bit of research might expose them to at least some degree of accuracy.

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Re: 3 abducted women found alive after 10 yrs [Re: goombah] #715304
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Michelle Knight refuses to meet with her family because she feels they gave up on her. The kidnapper used to torture the girls by showing them televised stories about candlelight vigils held by the families. It was only the two other girls who had families that kept looking for them this way. Also, Ms. Knight was very abused - she was starved and/or beaten so that she miscarried five separate times. She was also made to deliver Ms. Berry's daughter and was told that if this baby died, she would be killed.


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What a coward..


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Everybody despised him and his family has disowned him. He was facing regular beatings if he was ever in general population and isolation if he wasn't. He wasn't sorry for what he did, so what reason did he have for sticking around? Most people think he did the taxpayers a favor.

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While I agree he's a coward, at least it may give those poor young women a modicum of peace.


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hopefully the suicide story is bullshit and he was murdered

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