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Leonetti #711858
04/20/13 03:48 PM
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Just read his book, sometimes he seems so beleiveable and other time he seems full of shit, anybody else feel the same way?

Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #711867
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Hes the worst kind of rat. Pretends like he had a change of heart and realized that the life was evil. REality is they gave him 50 years and he turned to get out.


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Good decision Phil!

Re: Leonetti [Re: vinnietoothpicks26] #711872
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i agree with that im talking about how he felt on salvie and him not being happy about guys getting killed in front of their moms i would say at the time he didnt care but it wasnt until he sat in jail for 5 years to think about everything that he goes back and says that how he felt

Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712077
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I believe Phil when it comes to Salvie but on the other hand The Crow said Phil actually wanted to kill Salvie too.... but then again Phil didn't like The crow & Del Giorno (guess it was both ways then). Very good book ... really enjoyed reading in it

Re: Leonetti [Re: Jules_X] #712153
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This book is a writer's worst nightmare. Thank God I am not! The story of Leonetti could have been written so much better by any other writer except those two that Leonetti used. Soldier is not spelled solider. It must have been written about one hundred times incorrectly. Nicky Scarfo making the sign of the gun appeared in every other sentence. We get it! There were run on sentences and sentences that just ended mid sentence through out the book. Falcone even drives himself to be buried! The list of mistakes goes on and on. Phil leometti begins every sentence with, "So me and my Uncle....." I couldn't take it. These two writers need to learn to write and apologize to Phil for this mess. I also saw they share the copyright with Phil, I thought Phil was smart? Why would he give up that to these morons? Don't waste your money just go and watch a Documentary on the Philly mob on youtube. Unless you want to endure amateur writing!

Re: Leonetti [Re: Beanshooter] #712164
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
This book is a writer's worst nightmare. Thank God I am not! The story of Leonetti could have been written so much better by any other writer except those two that Leonetti used. Soldier is not spelled solider. It must have been written about one hundred times incorrectly. Nicky Scarfo making the sign of the gun appeared in every other sentence. We get it! There were run on sentences and sentences that just ended mid sentence through out the book. Falcone even drives himself to be buried! The list of mistakes goes on and on. Phil leometti begins every sentence with, "So me and my Uncle....." I couldn't take it. These two writers need to learn to write and apologize to Phil for this mess. I also saw they share the copyright with Phil, I thought Phil was smart? Why would he give up that to these morons? Don't waste your money just go and watch a Documentary on the Philly mob on youtube. Unless you want to endure amateur writing!


another satisfied customer

Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712185
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i read the book last week took me 2/3 days lol. hate the guy enjoyed the book however. great to see an insight into philly bak then with crazy scarfo and how he came. guy got made in the 50s jheez! salvie, lawrence merlino, chuckie. some great info. the guy is still in denial about being a filthy rat though. a class prik - leonetti

Re: Leonetti [Re: Beanshooter] #712364
04/23/13 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
This book is a writer's worst nightmare. Thank God I am not! The story of Leonetti could have been written so much better by any other writer except those two that Leonetti used. Soldier is not spelled solider. It must have been written about one hundred times incorrectly. Nicky Scarfo making the sign of the gun appeared in every other sentence. We get it! There were run on sentences and sentences that just ended mid sentence through out the book. Falcone even drives himself to be buried! The list of mistakes goes on and on. Phil leometti begins every sentence with, "So me and my Uncle....." I couldn't take it. These two writers need to learn to write and apologize to Phil for this mess. I also saw they share the copyright with Phil, I thought Phil was smart? Why would he give up that to these morons? Don't waste your money just go and watch a Documentary on the Philly mob on youtube. Unless you want to endure amateur writing!


Look dude, first of all, Scott Burnstein made the effort, and succeeded in getting Phil to write a tell all. Without him, we would not have all the information about the 'life' that Phil led in Philly. Second, blame the typos on the authors' editors, NOT the authors. I have read many opinions on this book, some have legimate criticizims, but your scathing review is a bit much. Now, go shoot some beans, whatever the fuck that is.

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Re: Leonetti [Re: SilentPartnerz] #712372
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Hey Dude, Are you kidding me? It's their fault. All manuscripts are read and re read many times by all the authors and editors while it's being written. Then the publisher creates a galley copy for further review and dissemination. They were the authors and it was THEIR responsibility. Don't blame the editors.There are things like Spell check and grammar check now available on all computers. If you want to call yourself an author then take pride in your work and don't wait for the editors to look for the obvious mistakes. Also, Burnstein and the other guy didn't convince Leonetti to tell his story. Leonetti decided that on his own and somehow they were connected. Which was such a big mistake for Leonetti! Such a great story told and ruined by these two amateurs! You are responsible for what YOU write. Relying on the editors to edit this amazing story that could have landed you on the New York Times Bestseller list shows you either don't care or a clueless. There has to be over 100 mistakes throughout that book. What a shame that what could have been the next "Underboss" became nothing more than a High School book report!

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Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712386
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The way i understand it the book deal was actually offered to George Anastasia first. But for whatever reasons he passed on the project and he then hooked Scott Burnstein up with the deal, i guess they're friends. But i did read that somewhere that it was originally offered to George Anastasia who did the foreward for the book.

Re: Leonetti [Re: Giancarlo] #712387
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Do you think that George would have ever relied on editors? Hell No! Also I'm sure George knows how to spell SOLDIER correctly! He or Capeci would have done a much better job!

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Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712411
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i noticed the typos lol. who cares its a tell all by and old gangster. the typos def didnt offend me. pointless critcism

Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712444
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WTF Bean. You give grammatical errors way too much importance. It was a great book and easy to read. So what if a lot of sentences starts with "so me and my uncle". That's the way Phil talks. Look him up in interviews, that's him 100%.

Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712445
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LCN1987 don't get me wrong I liked somethings that Phil had to say I just didn't like how it was written. Not his fault, it was the writers thats all. The only other issue I had was how Phil says he hated his Uncle for being so treacherous and evil , but he refused to testify against him when he was asked by the FBI because he didn't want his Uncle to "snicker and make faces at him" come on! Really?

Re: Leonetti [Re: Beanshooter] #712497
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Hey Dude, Are you kidding me? It's their fault. All manuscripts are read and re read many times by all the authors and editors while it's being written. Then the publisher creates a galley copy for further review and dissemination. They were the authors and it was THEIR responsibility. Don't blame the editors.There are things like Spell check and grammar check now available on all computers. If you want to call yourself an author then take pride in your work and don't wait for the editors to look for the obvious mistakes. Also, Burnstein and the other guy didn't convince Leonetti to tell his story. Leonetti decided that on his own and somehow they were connected. Which was such a big mistake for Leonetti! Such a great story told and ruined by these two amateurs! You are responsible for what YOU write. Relying on the editors to edit this amazing story that could have landed you on the New York Times Bestseller list shows you either don't care or a clueless. There has to be over 100 mistakes throughout that book. What a shame that what could have been the next "Underboss" became nothing more than a High School book report!


Scott has admitted that he is upset with typos and errors that have occurred in ALL of his books. Scott DID approach Leonetti. He recently approached Frank Salemme-was turned down. Check your facts before you slam others. You are certainly entitled to not like or appreciate Scott's work. I am entitled to like and appreciate his work-which I do. No doubt he is the foremost expert on the Detroit mob today. I am not sure where your vitriolic assessment of Scott's work emanates from, I am sure you have a narrow view. I will be sure to skip over your posts in the future. ADIOS.


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Re: Leonetti [Re: SilentPartnerz] #712499
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No problem Scott! Adios to you too!

Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712502
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Silent P, I agree with all you said but that book was originally for George A. Scott has said so himself but George has written about that era a lot already and didn't want to do it again. He wrote the foreward and he did a little story on it. I agree the book had many typos but I enjoyed in greatly.

Re: Leonetti [Re: SilentPartnerz] #712587
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Originally Posted By: SilentPartnerz

He recently approached Frank Salemme-was turned down.


any particular reason why? that would be a great read imo


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Speaking of Scott, any of you guys on the other forum whats the topics of his next book(s)?


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Leonetti [Re: Beanshooter] #712599
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
This book is a writer's worst nightmare. Thank God I am not! The story of Leonetti could have been written so much better by any other writer except those two that Leonetti used. Soldier is not spelled solider. It must have been written about one hundred times incorrectly. Nicky Scarfo making the sign of the gun appeared in every other sentence. We get it! There were run on sentences and sentences that just ended mid sentence through out the book. Falcone even drives himself to be buried! The list of mistakes goes on and on. Phil leometti begins every sentence with, "So me and my Uncle....." I couldn't take it. These two writers need to learn to write and apologize to Phil for this mess. I also saw they share the copyright with Phil, I thought Phil was smart? Why would he give up that to these morons? Don't waste your money just go and watch a Documentary on the Philly mob on youtube. Unless you want to endure amateur writing!


lol Now that's funny. I'm guessing you bought the hardcover edition for $25.00 too?


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Re: Leonetti [Re: Dapper_Don] #712607
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I have to assume DapperDon that it was because Selemme read Mafia Prince.

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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
No problem Scott! Adios to you too!


YO, BeShot, I ain't Scott. Scott lives in Detroit. I live about 1500 miles away from there.

SPmob, thanks for the correction, I was just sticking up for Scott cuz he ain't here.


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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
No problem Scott! Adios to you too!


YO, BeShot, I ain't Scott. Scott lives in Detroit. I live about 1500 miles away from there.

SPmob, thanks for the correction, I was just sticking up for Scott cuz he ain't here.


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Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712678
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NP. I like Scott to. Really liked Mafia Prince. Read it in 2 days which is quick for me these days with work and all.

Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #712729
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I havent had the chance to pick it up and read it, I was wondering if Scott and Phil where going to come to NY (guess not anymore)and done a book signing near my office (tons of authors go to the B&N in union sq) and I would have dropped in and bought it.

I am glad Scott wrote the book, if it wasnt for him then it wouldnt have been published.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Leonetti [Re: bobbytran] #730253
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phil book is all phil before he flipped i knew him and his hole fam blood and the other.reading it sounded like i was talaking to him yesterday..and he was a good guy ,take out the killings u know .laid back polite yes polite ,and when nicky was away phil was out with us all the time , us i mean non button guys...


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Serpiente thats pretty cool, did you ever socialize with Scarfo at all?

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son or the dad


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