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Organized Crime in Arabia/Middle East? #709787
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Hi, I'm looking for some info concerning OC in Arabia, the Middle East and the Muslim World in general. Doesn't need to be very specific, but it'd be nice if somebody could drop some common names for organizations in the area and some info as to what it is that they are doing. Thank you very much!

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I don't know much about crime or crime groups in those countries, but I know a bit about people from those countries doing crime in the united states, persians, lebanese,afghani, syrians,armenians..

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Do you happen know anything about these peoples religious beliefs and how they might influence their activities?

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Im going to move to saudi arabia i swear to god. Ill open a underground liquor store. What a paradise it must be! Warm climate, women cant drive, vote or have a show their ankles in public! Call me a feminist but i only think women should cook and clean.

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Call me a feminist but i only think women should cook and clean.

You're a feminist lol.


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Re: Organized Crime in Arabia/Middle East? [Re: Strahd] #709805
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Well I know some persians who are muslim and lebanese people who are christian...honestly from what I know from being around them.. They pretty much will do ANYTHING to make a dollar, they're really hungry for money and have an insane drive to be successful. As far as religion influencing their illegal activities? From what I've seen they put it all aside if it has to do with making $

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If you think of it as activities that we associate with organized crime in the US and Europe, the entire Middle East (and a good part of the "Third World") is a hotbed for extortion, murder for hire, illegal gambling, drugs, booze, etc. Except that they call them "militias," or "fundamentalist groups," etc. Newspapers had a story recently on how the Taliban have taken over a good-sized city in Pakistan and are shaking down the residents--sound familiar? And what about the pirates in Darfur?

Moral of story: where there's no law and order--and a lot of money to be made--you'll find organized crime.


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Re: Organized Crime in Arabia/Middle East? [Re: Strahd] #709831
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Great insight Turnbull thank you


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Re: Organized Crime in Arabia/Middle East? [Re: Strahd] #709862
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I'm pretty sure Taliban in Afghanistan is behind all the heroin that's made there.


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Don't really know much about organized crime in the area itself, but there are a lot of middle easterners involved in organized crime in the USA and Europe.

Turkish, Turkish Cypriot and Kurdish crime groups are an extreme force in Europe. The Turkish Cypriot Arif gang is a force in London, along with the Kurdish Tottenham Boys and Bombacilar gangs. There are also Turkish mafia groups present in almost any other country with a substantial Turkish population, such as Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium. Some of them are definitely linked to the Grey Wolves ( ethnic Turkish right-wing movement). Likewise for the Kurdish mafia groups but they are more likely to be linked to the Kurdish rebel movement PKK although this is far from always the case.

Israeli crime groups are really powerful. Even though they are mostly known for drug trafficking, they are active in about every aspect of organized crime including weapon trafficking, fraud, armed robberies, human trafficking. Israeli crime groups largely come from a couple of different backgrounds: mostly Moroccan Jewish, Russian/Ukrainian Jewish and Georgian Jewish immigrants to Israel. The Abergil family was of Moroccan Jewish origins, as was the Alperon family ( even though they were born in and migrated from Egypt). Russian Jews are also largely involved in organized crime in Israel, as are Georgian Jews. In Belgium we had the infamous Georgian Jewish Melikhov clan.

Assyrian crime groups are also active in any country with a large Assyrian population. There was the Chaldean mafia in Detroit, the Dlasthr/Assyrian Kings gang in Australia and the USA and also Sweden experienced major organized crime issues with the Assyrian immigrant population. Drug trafficking, extortion, armed robbery,...are all common practice.

Germany experienced a massive crime wave with the immigration of Mhallami-Lebanese refugees. They mostly live in large clans active in organized crime, as well as the occasional petty crime. Mahmoud Al-Zein was named the drug kingpin of Berlin and the Miri clan is one of the most well known crime families in all of Germany.

Armenian criminal groups are also active in countries with a large Armenian population. The Armenian Power gang in the USA is the most well known out of them, but countless Armenian crime groups also exist in Russia.

Chechen mafia gangs, the Obshina, were once said to be the most powerful in Russia, but their power has diminished somewhat. Khozh-Ahmed Noukhaev was a well-known Chechen criminal figure in Russia. Nonetheless, they are still active in any European country were there's a large Chechen population. In Belgium Chechens have tried to take over some Albanian rackets but they have been unsuccesful so far.

Azerbaijani gangs are also highly active in Russia. They aren't as well known in Western Europe, but Azerbaijani crime gangs are certainly present in the Netherlands and Germany. Mostly active in drug trafficking, but they'll go wherever a buck can be made.

North African crime gangs ( Moroccans and Algerians, mostly of Berber descent) are also working their way up in the criminal hierarchy. They used to be bands of petty thieves ( and lots of them still are) but especially in the Netherlands and France you will find that Moroccans and Algerians can be involved in major organized criminal activities. Organized armed robberies still make up a large part of their bread and butter, but a lot of them are also involved in the trafficking of marihuana and hashish and ,surprisingly, cocaine. Extortion is also common practice.

Outside of them you will find Pakistani ( of Mirpuri origin) crime groups in the UK and Indian ( largely of Jatt Sikh origin) ones in the UK and Canada. Tamil groups are also highly active in the UK and Canada. They are all involved in drug and weapon trafficking, extortion, human trafficking,...you name it.
But I don't think you can call them 'Middle Eastern' anyway.

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...wow. just wow. thank you so much, this is some really awesome info right there. Two thumbs up.

Re: Organized Crime in Arabia/Middle East? [Re: Strahd] #709868
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Originally Posted By: Strahd
...wow. just wow. thank you so much, this is some really awesome info right there. Two thumbs up.


You're welcome smile

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Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
Don't really know much about organized crime in the area itself, but there are a lot of middle easterners involved in organized crime in the USA and Europe.

Turkish, Turkish Cypriot and Kurdish crime groups are an extreme force in Europe. The Turkish Cypriot Arif gang is a force in London, along with the Kurdish Tottenham Boys and Bombacilar gangs. There are also Turkish mafia groups present in almost any other country with a substantial Turkish population, such as Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium. Some of them are definitely linked to the Grey Wolves ( ethnic Turkish right-wing movement). Likewise for the Kurdish mafia groups but they are more likely to be linked to the Kurdish rebel movement PKK although this is far from always the case.

Israeli crime groups are really powerful. Even though they are mostly known for drug trafficking, they are active in about every aspect of organized crime including weapon trafficking, fraud, armed robberies, human trafficking. Israeli crime groups largely come from a couple of different backgrounds: mostly Moroccan Jewish, Russian/Ukrainian Jewish and Georgian Jewish immigrants to Israel. The Abergil family was of Moroccan Jewish origins, as was the Alperon family ( even though they were born in and migrated from Egypt). Russian Jews are also largely involved in organized crime in Israel, as are Georgian Jews. In Belgium we had the infamous Georgian Jewish Melikhov clan.

Assyrian crime groups are also active in any country with a large Assyrian population. There was the Chaldean mafia in Detroit, the Dlasthr/Assyrian Kings gang in Australia and the USA and also Sweden experienced major organized crime issues with the Assyrian immigrant population. Drug trafficking, extortion, armed robbery,...are all common practice.

Germany experienced a massive crime wave with the immigration of Mhallami-Lebanese refugees. They mostly live in large clans active in organized crime, as well as the occasional petty crime. Mahmoud Al-Zein was named the drug kingpin of Berlin and the Miri clan is one of the most well known crime families in all of Germany.

Armenian criminal groups are also active in countries with a large Armenian population. The Armenian Power gang in the USA is the most well known out of them, but countless Armenian crime groups also exist in Russia.

Chechen mafia gangs, the Obshina, were once said to be the most powerful in Russia, but their power has diminished somewhat. Khozh-Ahmed Noukhaev was a well-known Chechen criminal figure in Russia. Nonetheless, they are still active in any European country were there's a large Chechen population. In Belgium Chechens have tried to take over some Albanian rackets but they have been unsuccesful so far.

Azerbaijani gangs are also highly active in Russia. They aren't as well known in Western Europe, but Azerbaijani crime gangs are certainly present in the Netherlands and Germany. Mostly active in drug trafficking, but they'll go wherever a buck can be made.

North African crime gangs ( Moroccans and Algerians, mostly of Berber descent) are also working their way up in the criminal hierarchy. They used to be bands of petty thieves ( and lots of them still are) but especially in the Netherlands and France you will find that Moroccans and Algerians can be involved in major organized criminal activities. Organized armed robberies still make up a large part of their bread and butter, but a lot of them are also involved in the trafficking of marihuana and hashish and ,surprisingly, cocaine. Extortion is also common practice.

Outside of them you will find Pakistani ( of Mirpuri origin) crime groups in the UK and Indian ( largely of Jatt Sikh origin) ones in the UK and Canada. Tamil groups are also highly active in the UK and Canada. They are all involved in drug and weapon trafficking, extortion, human trafficking,...you name it.
But I don't think you can call them 'Middle Eastern' anyway.

how do you know so much about israeli crime groups? i am moroccan jew trust me most of the moroccan are dealing with drugs and robberies...

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Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
Don't really know much about organized crime in the area itself, but there are a lot of middle easterners involved in organized crime in the USA and Europe.

Turkish, Turkish Cypriot and Kurdish crime groups are an extreme force in Europe. The Turkish Cypriot Arif gang is a force in London, along with the Kurdish Tottenham Boys and Bombacilar gangs. There are also Turkish mafia groups present in almost any other country with a substantial Turkish population, such as Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium. Some of them are definitely linked to the Grey Wolves ( ethnic Turkish right-wing movement). Likewise for the Kurdish mafia groups but they are more likely to be linked to the Kurdish rebel movement PKK although this is far from always the case.

Israeli crime groups are really powerful. Even though they are mostly known for drug trafficking, they are active in about every aspect of organized crime including weapon trafficking, fraud, armed robberies, human trafficking. Israeli crime groups largely come from a couple of different backgrounds: mostly Moroccan Jewish, Russian/Ukrainian Jewish and Georgian Jewish immigrants to Israel. The Abergil family was of Moroccan Jewish origins, as was the Alperon family ( even though they were born in and migrated from Egypt). Russian Jews are also largely involved in organized crime in Israel, as are Georgian Jews. In Belgium we had the infamous Georgian Jewish Melikhov clan.

Assyrian crime groups are also active in any country with a large Assyrian population. There was the Chaldean mafia in Detroit, the Dlasthr/Assyrian Kings gang in Australia and the USA and also Sweden experienced major organized crime issues with the Assyrian immigrant population. Drug trafficking, extortion, armed robbery,...are all common practice.

Germany experienced a massive crime wave with the immigration of Mhallami-Lebanese refugees. They mostly live in large clans active in organized crime, as well as the occasional petty crime. Mahmoud Al-Zein was named the drug kingpin of Berlin and the Miri clan is one of the most well known crime families in all of Germany.

Armenian criminal groups are also active in countries with a large Armenian population. The Armenian Power gang in the USA is the most well known out of them, but countless Armenian crime groups also exist in Russia.

Chechen mafia gangs, the Obshina, were once said to be the most powerful in Russia, but their power has diminished somewhat. Khozh-Ahmed Noukhaev was a well-known Chechen criminal figure in Russia. Nonetheless, they are still active in any European country were there's a large Chechen population. In Belgium Chechens have tried to take over some Albanian rackets but they have been unsuccesful so far.

Azerbaijani gangs are also highly active in Russia. They aren't as well known in Western Europe, but Azerbaijani crime gangs are certainly present in the Netherlands and Germany. Mostly active in drug trafficking, but they'll go wherever a buck can be made.

North African crime gangs ( Moroccans and Algerians, mostly of Berber descent) are also working their way up in the criminal hierarchy. They used to be bands of petty thieves ( and lots of them still are) but especially in the Netherlands and France you will find that Moroccans and Algerians can be involved in major organized criminal activities. Organized armed robberies still make up a large part of their bread and butter, but a lot of them are also involved in the trafficking of marihuana and hashish and ,surprisingly, cocaine. Extortion is also common practice.

Outside of them you will find Pakistani ( of Mirpuri origin) crime groups in the UK and Indian ( largely of Jatt Sikh origin) ones in the UK and Canada. Tamil groups are also highly active in the UK and Canada. They are all involved in drug and weapon trafficking, extortion, human trafficking,...you name it.
But I don't think you can call them 'Middle Eastern' anyway.

how do you know so much about israeli crime groups? i am moroccan jew trust me most of the moroccan are dealing with drugs and robberies...


I have always been interested in any organized crime group, not just the Italians. Israeli organized crime is pretty well-known so I was interested in researching more about them. I'm not saying some people are more criminal than others, but a high percentage of the Israeli crime organizations are in fact of Moroccan Jewish or Soviet Jewish origin ( even though they are more likely to be described as part of the 'Russian mafia'). In Antwerp years ago there were a lot of Georgian Jewish criminal organizations. They were seen as part of the Russo-Israeli groups. They were nothing to be messed with.

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Profile: Pakistani drug kingpin Shahbaz Khan – Smuggling heroin from the Middle East to New York City http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...ngpin-shahbaz-khan-smuggling-heroin-from


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As mentioned above in Europe there are lot of gangs or crime groups from Middle East. In Denmark there are various Arabic and Pakistani, also Turkish gangs running business. In the city I lived it had presence of a gang named Black Army(funny as a black guy I knew told me "there is no-one actually black in that gang). Black Cobra also is active there.

Pakistani and Turkish gangs are active in UK. Netherlands have lot of Turkish and Morrocan crime groups. Germany has lot of Turkish gangs active there too.


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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke


Israeli crime groups are really powerful. Even though they are mostly known for drug trafficking, they are active in about every aspect of organized crime including weapon trafficking, fraud, armed robberies, human trafficking. Israeli crime groups largely come from a couple of different backgrounds: mostly Moroccan Jewish, Russian/Ukrainian Jewish and Georgian Jewish immigrants to Israel. The Abergil family was of Moroccan Jewish origins, as was the Alperon family ( even though they were born in and migrated from Egypt). Russian Jews are also largely involved in organized crime in Israel, as are Georgian Jews. In Belgium we had the infamous Georgian Jewish Melikhov clan.

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I have always been interested in any organized crime group, not just the Italians. Israeli organized crime is pretty well-known so I was interested in researching more about them. I'm not saying some people are more criminal than others, but a high percentage of the Israeli crime organizations are in fact of Moroccan Jewish or Soviet Jewish origin ( even though they are more likely to be described as part of the 'Russian mafia'). In Antwerp years ago there were a lot of Georgian Jewish criminal organizations. They were seen as part of the Russo-Israeli groups. They were nothing to be messed with.


Thats had to do with the dynamic inside isreal. So Mizrahi Jews are on the lowest social level.
If you look at history you will found Ashkenazi groups. Frankfurt, Germany had such large European Jews OC Network. It's hard to get info but some names are Hersch and Chaim Beker some time Josef Buchmann (real estate King) was linked with this group.

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Iran have and had a interesting underworld. Thugs play a key role in both coup d’etat ( 1953 and 1978).
After the Islamic revolution some thugs go the LA. So maybe in the usa they were active too.

In germany (70/80) exist Iranian Groups with links to the Intelligence Agencys. They were famous gambler and pimps.

Today i think it most be something like a deep state exist. You get easily Drugs and alcohol in Iran. It is too much money for some street gangster.

Street level thugs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxjzSoOwv9w but i don't have any infos about such guys. Reminds me of russia's thief in law.

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In August 2012, Nakhnoukh was arrested from his villa.
And was sentenced to 28 years in jail in May 2013. 2018 Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi pardoned him

So Cairo / Alexandria are nice place for OC groups.

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Netherlands have lot of Turkish and Morrocan crime groups


2nd and 3rd generations.

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Libanon and Morocco have very good hashish.. wink


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it's lebanon** haha

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it's lebanon** haha


Libanon is french, Greater Lebanon was created by France.


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never knew
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There is all manner of criminality in the Middle East and 'religion' has no influence over their actions.

The Turks are very corrupt, the Islamic Lebanese are violent and crime-prone. They're all deadshits in my opinion.

North Africa has its fair share of thugs and street level creeps.

Armenians are very corrupt, too. When I lived in Detroit, I knew a major level Armenian OC guy who hung out drinking in the Midtown section of Detroit, especially at Jumbo's Bar or the Old Miami Bar on Cass Avenue.

To the OP, investigate whether Middle Eastern crime syndicates in the West are funnelling some of their profits back to Middle Eastern Islamic extremist movements. You'll find some interesting facts there...


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Some info's about Lebanese Connection

Joseph Abizeid - maronit was Drug / Arms smuggler in 70's 80's arrested in Montreal.

Rahme Clan maronit drug clan active in French and Greece.

In 70's 80's Montreal Mafia buys Hash and Heroin from Lebanese Groups.

Looks like this connection still exist.
http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...g-ring-tied-to-bikers-and-montreal-mafia


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