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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: Camarel]
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04/11/13 01:11 PM
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pizzaboy
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Why is Bellomo called Barney and do people call him that to his face? seems like a funny nickname. I've always wondered that too i can't see how people could jump from Liborio to Barney as a nickname. Well, how else can you Americanize it? Libby? Please, that's just gay   . Everyone calls him Barney. It's how he refers to himself. It's not a "mob nickname." It's the name he's identified with since he was a kid. End of story.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/11/13 01:14 PM
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Why is Bellomo called Barney and do people call him that to his face? seems like a funny nickname. I've always wondered that too i can't see how people could jump from Liborio to Barney as a nickname. Well, how else can you Americanize it? Libby? Please, that's just gay . Everyone calls him Barney. It's how he refers to himself. It's not a "mob nickname." It's the name he's identified with since he was a kid. End of story. Fair enough but i would've took the nickname Oreo
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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/11/13 04:55 PM
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Dwalin2011
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By the way, did Bellomo really beat 2 lie detector tests when asked about the murders? But if he was telling the truth, does that mean they didn't even care about asking his permission to kill those guys?
Also, Pizzaboy, I remember in another thread you said about the Coppola disappearance that if he is really dead, then it was probably Leonard Simon who had Coppola killed, not Barney, but wouldn't it have been too dangerous for him to kill a capo without asking the bosses' permission?
Last edited by Dwalin2011; 04/11/13 05:03 PM.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: Dwalin2011]
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04/11/13 06:48 PM
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By the way, did Bellomo really beat 2 lie detector tests when asked about the murders? But if he was telling the truth, does that mean they didn't even care about asking his permission to kill those guys?
Also, Pizzaboy, I remember in another thread you said about the Coppola disappearance that if he is really dead, then it was probably Leonard Simon who had Coppola killed, not Barney, but wouldn't it have been too dangerous for him to kill a capo without asking the bosses' permission? Okay, once, for all, and for all time. Then I'm really not going into this again. Why would they ask Barney's permission? Farby was the acting boss when Ralphie got hit. End of story. Chin was still the official, but Farby had the final say on the street. That's protocol. They didn't have to ask Barney's permission for anything. That's the street. One of Farby and Ralphie's mutual partners got in Farby's ear and got permission to take Ralphie out. Farby may have had to get the nod from Chin (not sure either way), but no one else. And that was that. End of story. Barney just had to eat it. Him and Ralph were the kind of friends that went "from the womb to the tomb." Closer than brothers. Barney wouldn't have killed him even if he was robbing him (and I never believed that anyway). Barney NEVER would have given his permission if he was asked. But he wasn't asked. And even if Barney wanted to make a beef when he got home, Farby was already dead from cancer by that time. Not that Barney would have beefed. He knows the rules and respects them. He's old school. Okay, now I'm done.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/11/13 07:17 PM
04/11/13 07:17 PM
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Dwalin2011
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Okay, once, for all, and for all time. Then I'm really not going into this again.
Why would they ask Barney's permission?
Farby was the acting boss when Ralphie got hit. End of story. Chin was still the official, but Farby had the final say on the street. That's protocol. They didn't have to ask Barney's permission for anything. That's the street.
One of Farby and Ralphie's mutual partners got in Farby's ear and got permission to take Ralphie out. Farby may have had to get the nod from Chin (not sure either way), but no one else. And that was that. End of story.
Barney just had to eat it. Him and Ralph were the kind of friends that went "from the womb to the tomb." Closer than brothers. Barney wouldn't have killed him even if he was robbing him (and I never believed that anyway).
Barney NEVER would have given his permission if he was asked. But he wasn't asked. And even if Barney wanted to make a beef when he got home, Farby was already dead from cancer by that time. Not that Barney would have beefed. He knows the rules and respects them. He's old school.
Okay, now I'm done.
All right, I got it about the Coppola murder. But who do you think organized the DiLorenzo and DeSimone murders Barney was initially charged with? Don't get me wrong, I am not arguing or insisting it was him, you live there and know better than me, I am just interested. But anyway, if they were such good friends with Coppola, the fact that Bellomo wouldn't have reacted in any way to his murder, as you say, that's really creepy in my opinion. So much for the so called "honor" in the mafia.
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Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: Skinny]
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04/11/13 07:29 PM
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They kill your brother, you take it. Thats the life. Thats it, nothing more. Shit sandwiches
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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: EastHarlemItal]
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04/11/13 07:46 PM
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pizzaboy
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They kill your brother, you take it. Thats the life. Thats it, nothing more. Shit sandwiches Yup. That's what it is, all right.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Historical leadership Genovese Family 1920s-1990s
[Re: HairyKnuckles]
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04/11/13 10:57 PM
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Excerpt from Barney's 2006 indictment - In or about 1998, in the Southern District of New York, the District of New Jersey, and elsewhere, LIBORIO S. BELLOMO, a/k/a "Barney Bellomo," the defendant, and others known and unknown, unlawfully, willfully, and knowingly conspired to murder Ralph Coppola, in violation of New York State Penal Law, Sections 105.15 and 125.25. In or about 1998, in the Southern District of New York, the District of New Jersey, and elsewhere, LIBORIO S. BELLOMO, a/k/a "Barney Bellomo," the defendant, and others known and unknown, unlawfully, intentionally, and knowingly did commit an act involving murder and aided and abetted murder, to wit, with intent to cause the death of another person, BELLOMO and others known and unknown did cause the death of Ralph Coppola, in violation of New York State Penal Law, Sections 125.25 and 20.00. http://www.ipsn.org/indictments/bellomo/indictment_criminal_genovese_family-2006-2-23.htmEnd of story, as far as I'm concerned.
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