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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707318
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I never posted about who was boss during merlino trial or after his conviction. Never thought that was a question for debate

Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707320
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You also didn't answer my question. When merlino got locked up . ..who did the FBI have as boss of the philly family?

Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707323
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And thanks for going back and checking on my old posts teach. You have a sickness but search all you want I never said otherwise. Joey was boss when he went away for 14 years

Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: spmob] #707324
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Originally Posted By: spmob
I never posted about who was boss during merlino trial or after his conviction. Never thought that was a question for debate


Why wouldn't you think it was a question for debate? Pretty much everybody believed Ligambi was the boss. And various articles over the years, including from Anastasia, said so. But not a peep from you about it...until after the FBI released new info last year. Then, all of the sudden, you and the rest of South Philly knew all along. rolleyes

Originally Posted By: spmob
You also didn't answer my question. When merlino got locked up . ..who did the FBI have as boss of the philly family?


When Merlino went to prison, and before that when he was indicted, the FBI had nobody as the official boss; as Natale had flipped and he had been the official boss previously. That's why Merlino was indicted as the acting boss at the time.

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And thanks for going back and checking on my old posts teach. You have a sickness but search all you want I never said otherwise. Joey was boss when he went away for 14 years


I only did so to prove how full of crap you are. You're a textbook example of what I'm always talking about. A local guy from a given area exaggerating the extent of his knowledge. You kill your own credibility.

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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: IvyLeague] #707712
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
A local guy from a given area exaggerating the extent of his knowledge. You kill your own credibility.


See this is what you envy. I can do all your same research if I had as many free Friday nights as you. But you will never know or understand the neighborhood. You have never seen a wiseguy only jerked off to them in your dreams. Your a follower who goes by whatever the FEDS (people you don't know) say. You are naive. You have to much trust in the government. Nobody has questioned my credibility because I only post on what I know...Philly. I listen and interject when I can on others. But you on the otherhand feel the need to be Boss Hog of internet forums and people like me are tired of you bullshit.

Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707714
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Why let it bother you spmob? if u know what others dont, be happy that u know more and leave it at that. You dont see me running around saying so and so is the gambino consiglieri, so and sos a rat. If u know for real, no bs, then it shouldnt bother you if someone thinks otherwise. God knows i dont give a shit. Hows that rasberry kush?


I havent "exaggeratted the extent of my knowledge", so as far as i know i guess im still credible to my brudda ivy. Right?

Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707722
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"Ivey, Joey Merlino's sister could log on to this forum and you would still give her shit. Im not a anti FBI guy, I just can't stand how you discredit people and pat yourself on the back. Your life is based on a google search. You can research and research all you want but you just dont get how the neighborhood works and thats my fault to think that all of a sudden you would. But while you were banging out that book report of yours up there I was having a nice dinner, watched the game, smoked a nice bowl and then got a blow job. Glad you had a nice night as well."
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"And why add that last part? What are you trying to prove? I couldn't care what you do with your personal time. Just don't come here and pretend like you knew Merlino was the boss all along after the fact. Now go smoke a bowl and go ask your sister for another BJ."
HAHAHHA. This stuff is priceless. Gives me great entertainment at work.


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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707723
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Originally Posted By: spmob
See this is what you envy. I can do all your same research if I had as many free Friday nights as you. But you will never know or understand the neighborhood. You have never seen a wiseguy only jerked off to them in your dreams. Your a follower who goes by whatever the FEDS (people you don't know) say. You are naive. You have to much trust in the government. Nobody has questioned my credibility because I only post on what I know...Philly. I listen and interject when I can on others. But you on the otherhand feel the need to be Boss Hog of internet forums and people like me are tired of you bullshit.


Here we go again. I'm the bad guy because I call you on your bullshit. The feds are people who don't know? But you do? Even though you didn't say word one about Merlino being the boss until after THE FEDS revealed it? Enough already. You're full of shit and everyone knows it. Living in Philly didn't give you any more insight on this topic than anyone else had. Sorry.

Originally Posted By: Skinny
I havent "exaggeratted the extent of my knowledge", so as far as i know i guess im still credible to my brudda ivy. Right?


No, I have not seen you exaggerate the extent of your knowledge yet. Though I do wish you'd expound more on certain comments you make. wink

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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707725
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Has it even been proven that Merlino is boss?


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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: vinnietoothpicks26] #707730
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Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26
Has it even been proven that Merlino is boss?


It came out in the Stefanelli tapes, which is the reason the FBI changed it's info.


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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707735
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Ivy,
I am sorry to be an annoyance, I am playing catch up here. Did the fbi release something which showed them changing the info? Something I could find online?


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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707738
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I have to admit i thought Ligambi was the de facto boss, not just an acting one after Merlino got locked up. I was pretty surprised when it came out Merlino still held the official position. I thought it was the best move that family made, putting Ligambi in charge and just sending Merlino's family and later him a nice envelope every month.

But i wasn't living in south philly so i really don't know what the neighborhood guys knew at the time.

Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: IvyLeague] #707745
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Here we go again. I'm the bad guy because I call you on your bullshit. The feds are people who don't know? But you do? Even though you didn't say word one about Merlino being the boss until after THE FEDS revealed it? Enough already. You're full of shit and everyone knows it. Living in Philly didn't give you any more insight on this topic than anyone else had. Sorry.


Excuse me Ivy, but just because SP might have had knowledge of something doesn't mean he needs to report it here, to you, or anyone else. Maybe he had a reason for not mentioning it or maybe he thought he already had, who knows. Doesn't mean he didn't know about Joey just because he didn't clue you (the forum) in.

Nothing against you, but I laughed at your commnent about his insight. As someone who has lived in Philly all my life it wouldn't surprise me at all if he knew. Not everyone talks about certain things the feds aren't aware of yet, especially on public forums.

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Originally Posted By: Tally
Excuse me Ivy, but just because SP might have had knowledge of something doesn't mean he needs to report it here, to you, or anyone else. Maybe he had a reason for not mentioning it or maybe he thought he already had, who knows. Doesn't mean he didn't know about Joey just because he didn't clue you (the forum) in.

Nothing against you, but I laughed at your commnent about his insight. As someone who has lived in Philly all my life it wouldn't surprise me at all if he knew. Not everyone talks about certain things the feds aren't aware of yet, especially on public forums.


If you can't see the inherit problem with somebody not saying Merlino was the real boss for all these years....when everybody including the FBI and George Anastasia thought otherwise...and then says they knew all along AFTER it gets released to the public....there's something wrong with you too. Anyone can see spmob didn't know. He wishes he did. He's acting like he did. But he didn't. If he had reason to not say anything before, why even bring it up now? Answer: He's simply trying to get undeserved credibility. I've seen it probably a hundred times now from various local guys on the forums. They can't help themselves.

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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707759
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Sorry ivy. Internet omerta, you know how that goes.

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Sorry ivy. Internet omerta, you know how that goes.


I actually don't understand all that but whatever.


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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707762
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Would you type the name of every girl youve every fucked online? Coarse not! Its a sense of honor!

Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Skinny] #707768
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Would you type the name of every girl youve every fucked online? Coarse not! Its a sense of honor!


Well, that list was be pretty short in my case. And I don't really see the correlation between the two. I honestly don't think whatever anyone posts on these forums is going to have any effect on the real world. The people in question likely won't know, likely wouldn't care, and certainly wouldn't know who's posting about them even if they did find out.


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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: TonyBoy117] #707769
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So how is the Philly family here in 2013? I'm sure they don't have their hands in near as much as even the lowly Colombo's in NY but would they be comparable to Chicago?
They have approximately 50 made guys, divided into three geographical groups in order of size Philly, South Nj, and North Nj , I'd define them as the most "Visible" of the families outside NY

Seems pretty high. 8 seems low, but 50?


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Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26

Seems pretty high. 8 seems low, but 50?


Approximately 50 members is what was cited in the 2004 New Jersey OC report.

There's 47 members listed in the most recent chart on the forums. Not all are active and on the street obviously.

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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: Dapper_Don] #707773
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Lol at least no one can say u dont have a sense of humor.

Basically, say i say something about someone, and he or one of his friend/family is googling his name and stumbles across my post. Then looks at more of my posts. Anybody who knows me will know my sick sense of humor or my taste in music or beer or weed or watever. Plus the name skinny is a dead give away. Basically there are limits. Imagine the situation is reversed, would you spread gossip on the internet about ur neighbors? Or want them talking about u? I know u dont have a drug dealer or associate with any on a regular basis (not poking fun), but if u did would u post "joe blow has the best weed in utah".

But then again im not trying to pass off all my info as fact to get all of u guys to believe me.

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I can email you my list if you like too

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I am counting 29. 31 not listed as imprisoned, but Borgesi and Nicodemo are not listed as imprisoned.


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29? Not bad. I hope they werent all skanks.

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Skinny, yeh if you gotta list message me that would be cool.
"29? Not bad. I hope they werent all skanks."
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Imagine the situation is reversed, would you spread gossip on the internet about ur neighbors?


If they were criminals, I wouldn't care.

Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26
I am counting 29. 31 not listed as imprisoned, but Borgesi and Nicodemo are not listed as imprisoned.


This is a list of total members. Active, inactive, and in prison.


Boss: Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino/51
Underboss: Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi/73 (IP)
Consigliere: Steven "Handsome Steve" Mazzone/49

Captains:
Michael "Mikey Lance" Lancellotti/50 (South Philly Crew)
George “Georgie” Borgesi/49 (IP) (South Philly/South Jersey/Bucks County Crew)
Anthony “Tony S/Ants” Staino/55 (IP) - (South Jersey Crew)
Joseph "Scoops" Licata/71 (North Jersey Crew)

Soldiers:
1. Martin "Marty" Angelina/50 (IP/7/11/2015)
2. Gennaro "Joseph Costello" Boccia/61
3. Joseph “Bongs” Bongiovanni/66
4. Damion “Dame” Canalichio/43 (IP)
5. Vincent "Beepsie" Centorino/81
6. John "Johnny Chang" Ciancaglini/57
7. Joseph "Joey Chang" Ciancaglini Jr/54
8. Joseph “Chickie” Ciancaglini Sr/78 (5/04/2015)
9. Martin "Marty Crutch" Curro/59
10. Eric Esposito/42 (UI)
11. Louis "Big Lou" Fazzini/46 (IP)
12. Vincent "Big Vince" Filipelli/60
13. Robert Gentile/76 (UI/IP)
14. Dominic Grande
15. Joseph "Wayne" Grande/53
16. Francis "Faffy" Iannarella/66 (IP/7/8/2016)
17. Charles "Charlie White" Iannece/78
18. Vincent "Vince" Iannece/47
19. Gaeton “Gate/The Big Guy” Lucibello/60 (IP/2/2/2015)
20. Frank Martines/59 (IP/L)
21. Joseph "Mousie" Massimino/63 (IP)
22. Salvatore "Sonny" Mazzone/41
23. Nicholas "Nicky Whip" Milano/52
24. Frank “Windows” Narducci Jr/59
25. Phillip Narducci/50
26. Anthony “Tony Nics” Nicodemo/41 (UI/IP)
27. Nicholas "Nicky O" Oliveri/63
28. Vincent "Al Pajamas" Pagano/83 (IP/9/28/2063)
29. Anthony "Tony Pung" Pungitore Jr/58
30. Joseph "Joey Pung" Pungitore/56
31. Dominic Rugnetta/90
32. Salvatore "Tory" Scafidi/51
33. Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo/84 (IP/1/05/2033)
34. Antonio “Nino” Sciglitano/84
35. Joseph "Joey Electric" Servidio/
36. Ralph "Junior" Staino/80
37. John Stanfa/72 (IP/L)
38. Joseph “Joey” Stanfa/43
39. Luigi “Gino” Tripodi/75
40. Shawn Vetere/44


It was also reported another guy was made a while back. It's most likely one of these guys...

Anthony "Tony Cujino" Accardo/52
Michael "Mikey" Angelina/47
Antony Borgesi/43
Nicholas "The Hat" Cimino/47
Albert "Ally Lance" Lancelotti/48
Philip "Philly" Ligambi Sr./66

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Re: Does Joey Merlino have the final say in Philly? [Re: IvyLeague] #707810
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
The posters on the forums who claim inside knowledge are a dime a dozen. There's actually two groups. The first group are complete bullshitters. They know nothing but pretend like they're in the know. The second group is trickier. They are in a position to hear certain things, maybe they know certain people, and do have valid things to pass on. But many in this group routinely go beyond what they really know; i.e. passing off their own opinion as inside information. If they were always on the level, I'd give them more credibility. But their ego usually gets the best of them and they can't help but exaggerate their knowledge.

If people want to be given credit for what they knew, when they knew it, here's what they can do. They can explain exactly how they know it. I'm talking about actually name the names and everything. And they can maintain that position consistently until they are eventually proven right. But this never happens. These people always act like there's something keeping them from naming names, like some internet code of Omerta they have to follow. As if anybody would give a rat's what they posted here and as if it would have any effect in the real world.

The truth is, they throw out their hunches, but don't want to name names because they're really don't know and want to have room to change their story around if need be.


Ofcourse they won't name names as it can jeopardize their own safety. And why implicate people that you know and are, or used to be, friendly with? Why reveal your sources in the first place?



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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Ofcourse they won't name names as it can jeopardize their own safety. And why implicate people that you know and are, or used to be, friendly with? Why reveal your sources in the first place?


I honestly don't believe anyone's safety is the least bit in danger by what they post online. That said, while I would like him to expound, a don't mind that Skinny doesn't name names because he doesn't take the approach of expecting everyone to take his word for it. It's the ones that do expect their word to be taken for it that I have a problem with.


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