Who knows? I'm sure they made a bundle.

What's with Revis Island as a moniker? Jets fan? If so, you have my sympathy .

^^^^ Come on. That's not even true. A lot of guys have that dead stare/scary look. I don't agree with that.

Sorry Carmela for being a smartass

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything lol. I just gave you one of the links in case you wanted to research it yourself. How much money do you think they made approximately off of that gambling ring if you had to take a guess?

I knew one of the guys arrested in that bust. No way they made anywhere close to 2 bil. I actually kinda doubt they even had that in bets. The feds usually will word their press releases to saying, "suspects recieved wagers in an amount of UP TO $1m a week". Most likely super bowl week. But it usually hits the papers as, "$52 Million dollar betting ring taken down!!!" Truthfully the total amount of wagers would be more like 20 mil. Now whats weird about gamblers is more lose than win. Youd think if u flipped a coin itd be like 50-50 and you make money off the juice... Assuming ur a chump who believes wikipedia But usually the ratio of bets won to bets lost is around 45:55. Then u have juice (completely different subject).. Assume your gross profit is 10% of the 20 mil. (Very unlikely, but whatever). Now who handles the bettors? Agents. It varies, and theres no hard and fast rules to it but some agents can recieve 10, 25, 50, up to 75% of NET losses. Say the book doesnt have any packages of bettors at 75% and theyre all at 50, all thats left over is one mil. Now you got to pay your PPH Service (price per head), which is fucking rediculously expensive... So say your paying at a min 20k a month for ur offshore site. You have about 750k left give or take. Then you need at least one or two (armed) runners to carry around hundreds of thousands of dollars on a daily basis. You want to pay these guys good bc a, its dangerous work, and b- u dont want them to rob you. Now unless you want to run a multimillion dollar sportsbook out of your mothers basement, your going to need an office, phones, computers, etc... So you end up keeping like 550-600k out of the "50 Million Dollar Sportsbetting Ring", but thats still good money. Oh and i forgot to mention like Pizzaboy said u cant collect everything, so assume your collecting like 96-97% of losses and paying out 100% percent of winnings.. Haha. Sorry to write such a long post but i know a great bit about it.

That's still a lot of money regardless whether its 20 mil or 2 bil lol. But do you believe that Frankie locascio's kid was really making a little more than $300 million annually off of pornagraphy website scams?

I personally dont put any stock in Jerry Capecis so called rumors.

There was a time (back around the late '70s/early '80s) when Jimmy Breslin, a very respected newspaperman here in NY, would report that Salerno was the top man in the Family. Those old reports seem to have lessened Tony's rank over the years and I'll leave it to you experts to debate the issue, but I ask, as has already been suggested, that we leave out which bodily part is doing the talking.

I also saw that Frankie locascio's son made over $300 million annually off of pornography website scams for the Gambino family.

For the record, Capeci has proven himself to be a very reliable journalist over the years.

DIDNT HE SAY JOE WATTS WAS A RAT A FEW YRS AGO?



It wasn't just Breslin. Everybody thought Fat Tony was the boss before turncoats like Cafaro, Gravano, Casso, etc. set them straight. And, in hindsight, there were several recorded conversations that verified what all these gangsters said in debriefing or in trial testimony. The former prosecutors and the FBI agents involved in the Commission case admitted they had the wrong information. And since the time Cafaro first revealed the truth, there has been nobody, outside a few history revisionists on the internet forums, who have said otherwise.




The total take from the Locascio crew's two scams - the internet porn scam and the phone sex line cramming scam - was reported to be about $750 million. The internet scam made about $230 million and the phone cramming scam made $520 million.

Prosecutors alleged Salvatore Locascio received at least $8 million as captain of the crew, and he was later able to pay a $4.7 million fine. Richard Martino was able to pay a $15 million fine. Zev Mustafa payed a $1.7 million fine. And Daniel Martino, Thomas Pugliese, and Andrew Campos together payed a total of $2.1 million in fines. The internet porn company involved in the scheme payed $30 million in fines. $40 million was said to have gone to the Gambino family as tribute. So, at the very least, the Gambinos made close to $67 million from the two scams, while paying close to $24 million of it back in fines. So they cleared over $40 million. Probably a lot more though.

DIDNT HE SAY JOE WATTS WAS A RAT A FEW YRS AGO?

I disagree. But I'm not here to argue. Who is running things for the bonanno family since all of their top guys are in prison. I suspect Tony Calabrese but I don't know for sure

For the record, Capeci has proven himself to be a very reliable journalist over the years.





It wasn't just Breslin. Everybody thought Fat Tony was the boss before turncoats like Cafaro, Gravano, Casso, etc. set them straight. And, in hindsight, there were several recorded conversations that verified what all these gangsters said in debriefing or in trial testimony. The former prosecutors and the FBI agents involved in the Commission case admitted they had the wrong information. And since the time Cafaro first revealed the truth, there has been nobody, outside a few history revisionists on the internet forums, who have said otherwise.



The total take from the Locascio crew's two scams - the internet porn scam and the phone sex line cramming scam - was reported to be about $750 million. The internet scam made about $230 million and the phone cramming scam made $520 million.

Prosecutors alleged Salvatore Locascio received at least $8 million as captain of the crew, and he was later able to pay a $4.7 million fine. Richard Martino was able to pay a $15 million fine. Zev Mustafa payed a $1.7 million fine. And Daniel Martino, Thomas Pugliese, and Andrew Campos together payed a total of $2.1 million in fines. The internet porn company involved in the scheme payed $30 million in fines. $40 million was said to have gone to the Gambino family as tribute. So, at the very least, the Gambinos made close to $67 million from the two scams, while paying close to $24 million of it back in fines. So they cleared over $40 million. Probably a lot more though.

Fat Tony was the boss, news doesnt get out to Utah to quick! You pick and choose your sources! Stay in the mountains with the Unibomber! Most will take Jimmy Breslin over you and fifty rats any day!

Shit im informed on the matter and I believe him.

Ivy, if i believed half of yojr bad information I would be in trouble! Your so out of touch its scary. Your a million miles away and have no clue. Everyone has an agenda when they tell a story. Tony had more juice in his pinky than you coukd ever hope to have. Like I said if this took place in the mountains of Utah you would be all for that!

Ivy, if i believed half of yojr bad information I would be in trouble! Your so out of touch its scary. Your a million miles away and have no clue. Everyone has an agenda when they tell a story. Tony had more juice in his pinky than you coukd ever hope to have. Like I said if this took place in the mountains of Utah you would be all for that!

If you believe Fat Tony was the boss you're apparently not informed on the matter. Or, for whatever reason, you've chosen to ignore all of the evidence that comes down on one side in favor of....what again?

Again in Idaho or Utah the real boss didnt affect your daily life, you have no clue! Reality is here where it matters most! Not in some Mafia Fantasy camp where you play!

last night i was out with some guy and he told me that zizzo is hiding out in chicago heights and has been calling the shots since the mid 90's. Trust me i cant quote sources but im in the know my ear is to the streets.

[quote=EastHarlemItal]Again in Idaho or Utah the real boss didnt affect your daily life, you have no clue! Reality is here where it matters most! Not in some Mafia Fantasy camp where you play!

I dont think the Genovese have 200+ Made guys. I know that it sourced from all over but i just dont see it maybe im out of touch but i feel they might have trimed down and maybe after that springfeild thing they've idk just a thought.

Wasn't dodging Five's post at all! I had a distraction sorry. It was wet and slurpy! It ends in JOB! Ivy I will PM you and tell you about it!