I wanted to put which families are the most powerful in North America? Could you rank them? The reason I say North America and not just America is because of Vito rizzuto's regime in Canada. Also, what can you tell me about Gerard "Jerry" chilli? I heard about him from researching gus farace.

Gerry fucking gets around. Jersey, Brooklyn, Florida, hes been hustling for centuries! Lol

The Genovese family. Always has been.



Jerry Chilli is a captain in the Bonanno family. In 2008, Chilli and 6 others were indicted in New York on charges of racketeering, bookmaking, loansharking, drug trafficking, and tax fraud. In 2009, one of Chilli's soldiers (Thomas Fiore) and 10 others were indicted in Florida on charges of racketeering, check fraud, drug trafficking, transportation of stolen goods, loansharking, running high stakes card games, medicare fraud, forcing business owners to install mob-controlled vending machines, obstruction of justice, and murder.

The Genovese family. Always has been.

Always has always will be!

IDK guys, The Gambino's of the 60's and 70's were pretty damn strong...

Yeah I agree. Carlo was the boss of all bosses during his reign as don.

The Gambinos rivaled the Genovese in many ways from the 1960's to the 1990's but never supplanted them as the top family in the country. And even during that time, the Genovese were considered richer, better diversified, and more sophisticated in terms of their influence in labor unions and legitimate industries. It was the Genovese who represented many of the east coast families on the Commission and had the strongest ties with other families around the country.

While Gambino had a lot of influence on the Commission, and could be considered the first among equals at his peak, there hasn't been a "boss of bosses" in the U.S. At least since Maranzano and before anyway.

I agree with all of the above, especially when Tony Salerno was the boss!

Was this in reality or your land of make believe?

Rochester Crime Family

There is no question that the Genovese family is the most powerful crime family in North America and has been for quite sometime.

The only other family that even comes close is the Gambino family but we all know the damage that big mouth Gotti did to them.

Nicky eyes you are kidding when you say Rochester right?

Denver.

I disagree. But I'm not here to argue. Who is running things for the bonanno family since all of their top guys are in prison. I suspect Tony Calabrese but I don't know for sure

It's almost certainly Vinny TV.

Theirs rumors Michael Mancuso has been calling the shots from prison. I don't know how much merit there is to them. But I suspect Tony Rabito, Sammartino and maybe Joe C are running things while Vinny is in the can. He gets out this May.

That's my point. He made a sweetheart plea deal that puts him on the street right away. He should be boss when he comes home.

He probably will be. How soon he'll officially be promoted remains to be seen. But the Bonannos need to choose a "boss" and not an acting one. There is no top boss anymore. Basciano's in jail, Montagna's dead. Idk what's holding them back.

ROFL.

Genovese family

Vinny TV will be out in may of next year most likely so he is still running things I suppose. He only went away for a short amount of time. Is there anything else you guys can tell me about Jerry chilli or possibly his son who was murdered? May he RIP.

I don't really get this. I'm guessing its a joke but I guess I'm not catching on lol

Inside joke! Ivy is the President of the Chin Gigante fan club and doesn't like to admit FT Tony Salerno was the boss!

Ohhh hahaha that's too bad I guess

It´s saturday night over here, so I have no time or any will to start another debate over what rank Salerno held within the Mafia. So I will be short. But most probably, (if we are to go by the evidence presented and known to us) Ivy is right. Salerno doesn´t seem to have been the Genovese boss at all. Gigante took control of that Family in the early 1980s, following Lombardo´s retirement.

Niether do I have the time, but it was sourced both ways. And to say Tony was NEVER the boss your talking straight out of your ass.

You guys are gonna close another thread. Guaranteed.

I tried to keep my responses light, however to have that disregarded with the response that was posted!

I personally dont put any stock in Jerry Capecis so called rumors. Firstly if you read who said it, an unamed law enforcement officer... Lol. It could be some asshole patrol cop saying it! He claimed Mancuso was callin the shots, or some thing of the sort. Basically when i read it, what i got out of it was basically in this one officers opinion Mikey Nose had more juice than any one else in the family. I just domt buy it. Mancusos in for what another 15 yrs? TVs in fort dix with half the wiseguys in jersey lol getting out in maybe 18-20 months? The only guy from TVs crew that got pinched was VB and he should be out in less than a yr. I dont doubt the bronx guys at there height coulda easily ran that family, but i cant even think of one guy from Gorgeous's crew thats left! Granted im no a bx guy and dont know everyone but still. TV still has a crew. The most capable guy of running that family is Tony R! If he wanted it, it would be his! TG and Gerry too, but there not refined enough... The other guys u mentioned, joe.. Saunders is all but retired. AC is still inside for a few months. Shecky is still locked up. Joe Sammy is actually a lot closer to TV than most NY guys! Right now its either JS or Tony Black with Rabito playin mop up

Let's just try to stay focused on the subject and have a healthy discussion