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Name the biggest rat who turned.. #685737
12/28/12 08:33 AM
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My goes to Frank The Weasel

Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Avellino] #685739
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I say Angelo Lonardo from Cleveland,Sammy ''the king of rat'' Gravano and Joseph Massino

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Vincent "Fish" Cafaro, ratted out Tony Salerno
Also testified against, Gotti, Liborio Bellomo, Sal Larca and several others! Gave the Feds insight on how the Genovese Family has worked for years.

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Do you mean biggest ran in terms of givign up the most information? or by position/reputation?

I'd say information wise:

Joe Valachi
Sam Gravano
The Weasel
Whitey Bulger

Position Wise:
Joe Massino
Sam Gravano
Whitey Bulger

Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Jimmy_Two_Times] #685745
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Now that's a list that really loves cheese!


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Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Avellino] #685819
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The biggest was that fat Pig Vincent Terasa! In terms of the problems they inflicted upon the Mafia. For me it's a toss up between Gravano and Cafaro


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Fat Pete Chiodo.
I think he was close to 400 pounds at one time.


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Yeah, great add that guy was huge!


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Phil Leonetti did some damage too!

Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Jimmy_Two_Times] #685852
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Originally Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times
Do you mean biggest ran in terms of givign up the most information? or by position/reputation?

I'd say information wise:

Joe Valachi
Sam Gravano
The Weasel
Whitey Bulger

Position Wise:
Joe Massino
Sam Gravano
Whitey Bulger


I bet if they did a poll with the general public half of them wouldn't even know who Joe Massino was or what he did lol


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Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Avellino] #685860
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Steve flemmi and whitey bulger.they were havn mob guys arrested for 20plus years.flemmi was best friends with Cadillac frank and gave him rite up.they made millions from havn people locked up n takin rackets.oh yea and basically a license to kill.no way the fbi didn't know nothing they were doin


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angelo mercio sorry for his last name spelling but hes the one that recorded the making ceromony

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I thought I heard somewhere that Al D'Arco has testified more times than any other mobster.

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Whitey Bulgers deffintly up there,

Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Jimmy_Two_Times] #685892
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Originally Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times
Do you mean biggest ran in terms of givign up the most information? or by position/reputation?

I'd say information wise:

Joe Valachi
Sam Gravano
The Weasel
Whitey Bulger

Position Wise:
Joe Massino
Sam Gravano
Whitey Bulger


take off whitey and i agree one hundred percent.

Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Avellino] #685958
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I would have to go with big Joey Massino or Sammy bull.

Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Avellino] #685974
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What did those guys actually "shed light" on? Majority of the crimes they testified about were known. The government just received their coberation. Massino and Gravano just confirmed "knowns". Guys like Valaci and Cafaro actually explained operations which were unknown, structure which were unknown, who the real leaders were etc! Massino dimes on himself and Vinny, everyone knew who and what Gotti was. Cafaro gave up Chin, Lombardo, ratted out Bellomo, Sal Larca on a junk deal when they were just kids, put two old timers away, one named Gaurana can't think of the other name. Then one item many are not families with. It it was HUGE! MASSIVE. Was the Genovese Numbers/ Policy game in the city! Imagine everyone buying their lottory tickets from the Genovese Family instead of the state lottery! Well thats what went on for years! It was all gone after Cafaro explained it, identified the players and it became extinct!


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Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Avellino] #685986
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valachi was the first,[the weasle too] guys like gravano and massino 'opened the gates' so to speak.'why should i protect a boss who may rat me out?'

but i agree with you when it comes to cafaro.ive heard many 'conspiracies' about his testimony,some are very believable..you know which one i mean?

and yeah,fat tonys 'bank' was the biggest in ny bar none.bigger than tom mix,ducks, even joe colombos bank couldnt touch it.lol. revenue wise at least.when i was young,'the old man' we called him was half of nys 'lay off'. not ours,but still..lol.

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You talking the one when Fish said Chin was the real boss to protect Tony? Or you talking the one were Fish said that to piss in Tony's face? Fish did it to save his ass plain and simple!


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I would say Valachi just because he really opened the doors to it. He ratted in a time that you were almost guaranteed death if doing so.

Now these guys are doing it so often it is expected. I mean look at Nicodemo from Philly all i have been seeing is when will he give in and rat.

Another thing is now they rat and don't really even need to go in to witness protection. I mean look at this Kenji idiot is he not on this website or was at some point?

So yeh Valachi for sure.

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Missed the bottom part, but yes Sal Auletta ran that side for Tony. They took alot of bookie only action! Thats saying something there! Not just going for juice cash, taking on a "house"! That blows my mind!


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Re: Name the biggest rat who turned.. [Re: Avellino] #685998
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yes to both.lol. i remember hearing that he did something to protect the big guy so he would protect his son.

and yeah,thats the truth,!they took millions in lay offs.they took any amount of action on any number.even 'cut' numbers!they took it all.

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At the time, Tom(Fish Cafaro son) took his sentence so he woukdnt get clipped! At least on the surface they "split". Tom Cafaro and Barney are and were tight. Who knows if Fish and the kid have made amends, but on the surface at the time there were seperate and the kid turned his back on the old man. It got so bad for Fish at one time he refused to testify at Larca, Bellomo and Gurino trafficking trial and they threw his as in solitary for over a year at Otis!


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yeah.lol.thats the case where the big guy lost his tail out on the pelham pkwy or something?lol.

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That's the one! He was doing like 100mph going north on the wrong side of the road! He was on 95 in the south bound lane heading north! He's nuts!


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lol.thats shit cracks me up.

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What a potata lol.

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Imagine being in the car!


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was that kid sal larca with him?

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