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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683342
12/14/12 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
SC,

I get a "link not available". I wonder if it was blocked for legal purposes?


It's a link to his Facebook page. Do a search on Facebook for Ryan Lanza (Hoboken).


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Re: school shooting [Re: Mignon] #683343
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this is him...




maybe not, this is his twitter...

https://twitter.com/Fletch788/status/279668466150166528/photo/1

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Re: school shooting [Re: Five_Felonies] #683345
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies


VERY strange!


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Re: school shooting [Re: SC] #683347
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His mom is a teacher at that school. He shot his own mother.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: school shooting [Re: Mignon] #683348
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That was the name the news gave??? Maybe there is more than one person with that name? confused

Did he shoot his mother too? (I was on the phone)



TIS

They are reporting ANOTHER family member found at his home in Newton, CT but they don't know relationship.

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Re: school shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683351
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
That was the name the news gave??? confused

Did he shoot his mother too? (I was on the phone)


Yeah, his mother has been confirmed as one of the victims.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683352
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
They are reporting ANOTHER family member found at his home in Newton, CT but they don't know relationship.


Supposedly his brother was arrested a short time ago outside an apartment in Hoboken NJ.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: SC] #683353
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Lanza's Facebook page has been removed. He had posted a picture of himself this past Sunday. One of his friend's remarked on the photo that "this could turn out great" or something to that effect.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: dontomasso] #683354
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
The constitution has to be changed. This insanity has to stop.

My God. My hands are shaking watching this coverage. They're babies.

Something has to change. Fuck the Constitution or whatever it is that won't let us prevent these tragedies. Enough is enough frown mad.

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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: pizzaboy] #683355
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The kids were told as they were being rescued, to "cover their eyes" as the walked past the dead/injured. frown How the hell do you counsel/talk to your child and get a kid that age to comprehend? That memory can NOT be erased. frown



TIS


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: pizzaboy] #683356
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Something has to change. Fuck the Constitution or whatever it is that won't let us prevent these tragedies. Enough is enough frown mad.


I understand how important it is for the Constitution to assure us citizens the right to bear arms, but it is of equal importance for the Constitution to protect us citizens and our families. With that in mind I agree that much more stringent controls have to be placed on gun sales. If that means stepping on the rights for us to bear arms, so be it. We've already seen our rights trimmed back in the name of national security, and it's time that these rights to bear arms are curtailed as well. We all have to suffer because of a bunch of sick fucks, but that's the way it is today. Sadly, I want to see the Constitution amended.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683357
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Like my wife said, these kids were getting ready for Santa Claus. I really can't take this and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I'm going out for a few drinks. Serious as a heart attack, I am. Right now.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: pizzaboy] #683358
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Have a few for me, pb.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Mignon] #683359
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These heartbreaking events are guaranteed to to recur. Chief Justice Warren Burger, considered as a conservative and strict constructionist who was appointed as Chief Justice by Nixon, stated that the NRA's interpretation of the Second Amendment as guaranteeing an individual's right to bear arms was "one of the biggest frauds, and I repeat the word 'fraud', on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

Another right wing jurist Robert Bork maintained that the Second Amendment guarantees states' rights to form militias, and not for individuals to bear arms.

This tragedy in CT will take a while to comprehend. It's devastating that so many people have to find a way to move foprward from here.

Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: klydon1] #683363
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klydon,

Do you think the Constitution will be amended regarding the right to bear arms?


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: SC] #683364
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Originally Posted By: SC
klydon,

Do you think the Constitution will be amended regarding the right to bear arms?


No. I don't think it has to be amended, but I think it has to be interpreted in the manner that it had been interpreted by Burger. There is relatively very little judicial opinion from the SC regsarding this Amendment.

Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: klydon1] #683365
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MSNBC is NOW backtracking a bit, reporting that it could be that Ryan Lanza was not the shooter and that someone else(likely his brother) was carrying his ID. confused



TIS


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: SC] #683366
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Originally Posted By: SC
Lanza's Facebook page has been removed. He had posted a picture of himself this past Sunday. One of his friend's remarked on the photo that "this could turn out great" or something to that effect.


CBS is reporting this may not be the brother that did the shooting, but the one that got taken into custody in Hoboken.

Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Just Lou] #683367
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Originally Posted By: SC
Lanza's Facebook page has been removed. He had posted a picture of himself this past Sunday. One of his friend's remarked on the photo that "this could turn out great" or something to that effect.


CBS is reporting this may not be the brother that did the shooting, but the one that got take into custody in Hoboken.


JL,

I just heard/posted the same thing on MSNBC. This story just keeps unfolding.


TIS


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Just Lou] #683368
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Yeah, apparently Adam Lanza was the shooter. Ryan, his brother, was taken into custody in Hoboken.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683369
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette


JL,

I just heard/posted the same thing on MSNBC. This story just keeps unfolding.



Yup.. I was on Ryan Lanza's Facebook page earlier before it was taken down, and it seemed quite normal up to his last post a couple of days ago.

Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Just Lou] #683370
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So both brothers are arrested? Murder runs in the family? confused




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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: klydon1] #683371
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: SC
klydon,

Do you think the Constitution will be amended regarding the right to bear arms?


No. I don't think it has to be amended, but I think it has to be interpreted in the manner that it had been interpreted by Burger. There is relatively very little judicial opinion from the SC regsarding this Amendment.


I agree Kly. There is sufficient latitude in that amendment's interpretation without invoking the amendment process. Despite the McDonald opinion Illinois and Chicago still impose firearm restrictions and so do we here in Texas.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683372
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
So both brothers are arrested? Murder runs in the family? confused


Adam was the shooter. I don't know of any charges against Ryan, although he was taken into custody.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683373
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
So both brothers are arrested? Murder runs in the family? confused

TIS


The one Lanza may have nothing to do with it, but they can't take any chances until they sort it out.

Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Mignon] #683374
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My husband works in CT. He said that a little after 9:30 this morning, everyone's phone in the office started buzzing. Since so many of his coworkers live in the area, they were getting notifications of all the local school lockdowns. And then parents started panicking. He said it was awful, but he's not sure if anyone there lost anyone.

I can't imagine the anguish of the families. I heard on the radio that most of the dead children were in the shooter's mother's Kindergarten class. 5 year olds. I can't imagine.

God bless these families and watch over them, help them. I heard the President's speech, and he sounded personally heartbroken. So sad.


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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Sicilian Babe] #683375
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They said 40 per cent of gun sales require NO background check. For God's sake, is it trampling on anyone's 2nd amendment rights to do a F-ing background check? mad Hire & train people to do it if there's not enough. It's a start.



TIS

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Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #683376
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They just said that the guns were registered to his mother.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Mignon] #683377
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Reports say Ryan Lanza is in custody, but not under arrest. Apparently he is giving them information about why his brother did this.

Re: Newtown, CT School Shooting [Re: Mignon] #683378
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I was reading some eye witness accounts from third graders describing the screams and chaos as hundreds of kids watched and heard their classmates being massacred. It seemed surreal the way the kids were instructed to avoid looking at the murdered and wounded children as they left the school.

This story hits you hard.

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