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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676007
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I wonder if Skinny_Vinny did himself harm?

He hasn't posted since the day before the election.

I wonder why? whistle


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676008
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He kept insisting PA was in play.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676009
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I'm thinking 2016 Both parities (especially GOP) will HAVE to have a woman (or minority) somewhere on the ticket. That IS the time we are in IMHO. smile

I heard Condoleeza Rice's name floating around but I think anyone from or related to the Bush administration needs to stay the hell away. IMHO it's political suicide (and that includes Jeb Bush even tho he's not a dumb as his brother).



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676010
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I wonder if Skinny_Vinny did himself harm?

He hasn't posted since the day before the election.

I wonder why? whistle


He'll be back in 2016.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676011
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I wonder if Skinny_Vinny did himself harm?

He hasn't posted since the day before the election.

I wonder why? whistle


Well I hope he didn't do anything drastic. Had the election gone the other way I'd be in depressed mode. wink


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676012
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I wonder if Skinny_Vinny did himself harm?

He hasn't posted since the day before the election.

I wonder why? whistle


He and Carl Rove are busy downing all the scotch they can get their hands on.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #676013
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Speaking of Karl Rove, do you think his "time" is done with this election? He's gotta be hitting the bottle. lol



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #676014
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I'm thinking 2016 Both parities (especially GOP) will HAVE to have a woman (or minority) somewhere on the ticket. That IS the time we are in IMHO. smile

I think the Dems can win without a minority, but not the Republicans. The problem for the Republicans is that to get the nomination they seem to run all the way right (where there aren't many minorites). They can only win the general election with a minority, but they can't get the nomination without a couple of white guys (or in Palin's case a gal). It's a catch-22 for them.

My wife (who is independent, liberal, very strong, and runs two very successful businesses of her own) laments to me that we're no closer to a female President than we were four years ago. She says that Hillary is the best of the best and she's unelectable.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676019
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As much as I think Hillary has been a great Secretary of State, and would make a good President AND has a huge following, I think there are also many (AND I'm guessing mostly men) that hate her. I remember all the name calling even here on the BB in the past (ie Bitch and the like). Unless her time now as SOS has changed people's opinions. Anyway, I think that is the downside for her. ohwell


TIS


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #676020
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
As much as I think Hillary has been a great Secretary of State, and would make a good President AND has a huge following, I think there are also many (AND I'm guessing mostly men) that hate her. I remember all the name calling even here on the BB in the past (ie Bitch and the like). Unless her time now as SOS has changed people's opinions. Anyway, I think that is the downside for her. ohwell


TIS


While I agree there is a percentage of men that hate her, I doubt it's as great as the percentage of men that Obama. Plus, she'll get an even greater percentage of women than Obama did. Unless Obama has a Bush-like 2nd term, I can't see her losing an election no matter who the GOP throws at her.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #676023
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Plus, she'll get an even greater percentage of women than Obama did.


I'm not so sure of this. Women don't stand up for women. We kind of shoot each other down. In case of Hillary, some hate her for wearing pants and some hate her for not leaving Bill and some hate her, because they can't be her. tongue

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #676024
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
As much as I think Hillary has been a great Secretary of State, and would make a good President AND has a huge following, I think there are also many (AND I'm guessing mostly men) that hate her. I remember all the name calling even here on the BB in the past (ie Bitch and the like). Unless her time now as SOS has changed people's opinions. Anyway, I think that is the downside for her. ohwell


TIS


While I agree there is a percentage of men that hate her, I doubt it's as great as the percentage of men that Obama. Plus, she'll get an even greater percentage of women than Obama did. Unless Obama has a Bush-like 2nd term, I can't see her losing an election no matter who the GOP throws at her.


I hope you're right. Btw, can you imagine how happy Bill would be to be back in the White House? lol The First Man??? How weird is that? lol


TIS


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #676026
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette


I hope you're right. Btw, can you imagine how happy Bill would be to be back in the White House? lol The First Man??? How weird is that? lol


TIS


Believe me. There was a reason Bill tried so hard to get Obama re-elected, and it wasn't because Obama is his new BFF. wink

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #676027
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
I can't see her losing an election no matter who the GOP throws at her.

I think you're nuts, Lou. But the Giants are getting killed, so maybe I'm just in a bad mood lol.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676028
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
I can't see her losing an election no matter who the GOP throws at her.

I think you're nuts, Lou. But the Giants are getting killed, so maybe I'm just in a bad mood lol.


lol

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676034
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Somebody from my old college days agreed with my Hillary conspiracy theory (well not 'conspiracy' anymore since it's now mainstream), adding that two of her main problems from '08 won't hurt her anymore. Her Iraqi war vote will be irrelevant, since that war will be forgotten (or moved on, the more accurate term) and she was back then seen by many as the "establishment candidate" and Obama pummeled her with that.

Now that the Dems are the national establishment in the executive branch (and maybe still Senate too by '16), that's not the problem. Not to mention her SOS tenure has possibly made her appear more Presidential, more so than Biden who's the incumbent VP.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676036
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Time will tell. But Jeez, enough with 2016 already. Can we at least wait until after the Inauguration for this election? lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676037
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Time will tell. But Jeez, enough with 2016 already. Can we at least wait until after the Inauguration for this election?


lol

Maybe we should start a new thread for 2016 election. rolleyes


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: SC] #676038
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Originally Posted By: SC
Maybe we should start a new thread for 2016 election. rolleyes

Please, God, noooooooo!!!!!!!!


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676040
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Ummmmmmmm...:)

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676042
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I shouldn't do it, but I will. tongue
Current odds to get the nomination:
Code:
2016 Democratic Presidential Nominee:
         	Hillary Clinton 	 3/1
		Joe Biden 	         8/1
		Andrew Cuomo 	        12/1
		Martin O'Malley 	12/1
		Elizabeth Warren 	20/1
		Kirsten Gillibrand 	20/1  
 	        Deval Patrick 	        25/1
		John Hickenlooper 	25/1
		Mark Warner 	        25/1
		Tim Kaine        	25/1
		Brian Schweitzer 	25/1 

2016 Republican Presidential Nominee:
	        Paul Ryan 	5/1
		Marco Rubio 	6/1
		Jeb Bush 	8/1
		Chris Christie 	8/1
		Bobby Jindal 	12/1
		Condi Rice 	12/1
		Scott Walker 	16/1
		Rand Paul 	25/1
		Rick Santorum 	25/1
		Eric Cantor 	25/1
		Bob McDonnell 	25/1
		Sarah Palin 	33/1
		Mike Huckabee 	33/1
		Nikki Haley 	33/1
		Jon Huntsman 	33/1 


Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #676043
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I'm not crazy about Kirsten Gillibrand. I felt like Schumer helped her bully her way into the Senate. But ask me again in four years smile.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676045
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One of those crazy youtube videos...

Published on 5 Nov 2012

"A REPUBLICAN TEA PARTY MEMBER CAPTURES THIS SHOCKING BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER ON VIDEO"

Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676046
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Time will tell. But Jeez, enough with 2016 already. Can we at least wait until after the Inauguration for this election? lol


panic panic panic


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676047
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I'm not crazy about Kirsten Gillibrand. I felt like Schumer helped her bully her way into the Senate. But ask me again in four years smile.



..And not after the Giants get crushed.

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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I'm not crazy about Kirsten Gillibrand. I felt like Schumer helped her bully her way into the Senate. But ask me again in four years smile.



..And not after the Giants get crushed.

mad mad

Maybe the Jets will lose again. Salvage the day lol.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #676051
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I'm not crazy about Kirsten Gillibrand. I felt like Schumer helped her bully her way into the Senate. But ask me again in four years smile.



..And not after the Giants get crushed.

mad mad

Maybe the Jets will lose again. Salvage the day lol.


On the bright side, at least either the Cowboys or Eagles should be done after today.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #676052
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Yeah, and we'll still have a full one game lead over the winner.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676055
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God the local wingnuts in East Tennessee are blaming Romney for not bringing out the Evangelical vote whether because he didn't focus enough on social issues, or that his Mormonism turned them off.

Well total nonsense. A whopping 78% of them went for Willard, and apparently the numbers are good as ever in terms of turnout for those loons. It's just...they're not just enough anymore.

Does this mean those idiots have less chokehold on GOP political discourse? Doubtful.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #676056
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Ryan, Rubio, Jeb, and Christie. They are much more viable than the last batch of GOP candidates we got. But all in all I'm glad this is over


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