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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674632
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Unfair bashing of Romney. I'm calling it right now. You can celebrate President Obama's victory, but there is no need to insult Romney, he ran a good campaign and he did his best.

This is exactly what we don't need. The winners kicking the losers while they're down.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674633
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You're right, JoeSchmo..... we shouldn't fuck his horse.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674634
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Congratulations to fellow democrats! YES YES YES! YAY for president Obama. smile


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: SC] #674635
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Originally Posted By: SC
You're right, JoeSchmo..... we shouldn't fuck his horse.


Come on SC, whether you liked Romney or not (and I know you didn't) let's move on to the bigger issue which is for Congress to get along and get something done.

Call me crazy but does this board lean a little left???


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674636
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Unfair bashing of Romney. I'm calling it right now. You can celebrate President Obama's victory, but there is no need to insult Romney, he ran a good campaign and he did his best.

This is exactly what we don't need. The winners kicking the losers while they're down.


His campaign was a disaster.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #674637
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Obama now up in VA. Let's run up the score. smile


I have to look up all the electoral votes but IF he wins FL/VA, that's 29 & 13 EV = 42 + 275 =317 right? Maybe Silver will be right after all. smile



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674638
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Call me crazy but does this board lean a little left???


A little, but we have our share of right-wingers, too.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674639
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Yeah well Obama wasn't exactly a saint either. All they really did was slam Romney instead of telling us what they were going to do.

Although I admit, Romney did not do a good job of presenting himself as a viable alternative. He just couldn't pull it off.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: SC] #674640
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Call me crazy but does this board lean a little left???


A little, but we have our share of right-wingers, too.


Name one besides Skinny. I support Romney but I'm not a right winger. Just pointing that out.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674641
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Fox reports Romney not ready to concede Ohio or the election.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674642
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It's not my place to point out other members' political leanings, but when you've been here a little longer you'll see them, too.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674643
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I'm not sure if my fellow West Wing fan Goombah will be visiting here, but when I heard that Governor Romney had not prepared a concession speech, only a victory speech, all I could think of was Toby on election night when asked why he was preparing a concession speech for President Bartlet: "You want to tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing?". lol

I'm very proud to be an American tonight, and very proud of President Obama.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674644
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Yeah well Obama wasn't exactly a saint either. All they really did was slam Romney instead of telling us what they were going to do.

Although I admit, Romney did not do a good job of presenting himself as a viable alternative. He just couldn't pull it off.


Thats exactly what Romney did as well bash Obama along with all the birthers and their crew.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #674646
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Fox reports Romney not ready to concede Ohio or the election.


Just saw that as well, dont tell me he is going to be a sore loser now. At least have the decency to bow out gracefully.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: SC] #674647
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Originally Posted By: SC
It's not my place to point out other members' political leanings, but when you've been here a little longer you'll see them, too.


I'll keep that in mind I guess *sigh


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #674648
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Fox reports Romney not ready to concede Ohio or the election.


Just saw that as well, dont tell me he is going to be a sore loser now. At least have the decency to bow out gracefully.


To be honest, Ohio is very close with 25% still out.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #674649
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Yeah well Obama wasn't exactly a saint either. All they really did was slam Romney instead of telling us what they were going to do.

Although I admit, Romney did not do a good job of presenting himself as a viable alternative. He just couldn't pull it off.


Thats exactly what Romney did as well bash Obama along with all the birthers and their crew.


This election showed me that President Obama wants to push his own agenda (which is too left) and he doesn't give a damn about people who disagree with him. He's simply going to squabble all day with the House and once again nothing will happen. That's my main concern.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #674650
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
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Fox reports Romney not ready to concede Ohio or the election.


Just saw that as well, dont tell me he is going to be a sore loser now. At least have the decency to bow out gracefully.


To be honest, Ohio is very close with 25% still out.


Even Karl Rove on Fox News said "It's over", if Romney wants to be that guy then oh well.

I had been watching Sons of Anarchy and sneaking in election coverage during commercial breaks. Glad this is over.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674651
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The BOARD doesn't lean one way or another. The members that are more vocal and politically involved and have been posting here in this thread might have certain beliefs. However, everyone has the right to speak their mind and state their opinions.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674652
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If Obama holds his leads in the final states, it will be a 331-204 landslide.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674653
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Yeah well Obama wasn't exactly a saint either. All they really did was slam Romney instead of telling us what they were going to do.

Although I admit, Romney did not do a good job of presenting himself as a viable alternative. He just couldn't pull it off.


Thats exactly what Romney did as well bash Obama along with all the birthers and their crew.


This election showed me that President Obama wants to push his own agenda (which is too left) and he doesn't give a damn about people who disagree with him. He's simply going to squabble all day with the House and once again nothing will happen. That's my main concern.


Thats the thing his agenda is not "too left", its the GOP in the House (Tea Party) is "too right" even Fox News says this is the case all the the time. It can be argued that this President has been pretty moderate with no public option health insurance, wall street bailout, and extended the bush tax cuts.

I personally hope McConnell and Boehner (especially him) grows a pair and agrees to work with the President just like last time before the Tea Party refused to vote on anything Boehner negotiated with Obama. The Tea Party held the past 2 years largely hostage.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674654
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Well, Fox has called the election and Ohio for the President.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #674655
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
The BOARD doesn't lean one way or another. The members that are more vocal and politically involved and have been posting here in this thread might have certain beliefs. However, everyone has the right to speak their mind and state their opinions.


Everyone has a right Sicilian Babe and I support that 100 percent. It just seems too partisan is what I'm saying. Since Obama is going to be our President, we HAVE to figure out how to lower this debt and lower our unemployment rate. But we also must to consider other points of view. Both Republicans and Democrats have to do that.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #674656
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Well, Fox has called the election and Ohio for the President.

Romney just took a small lead in Ohio, but what's still out is mostly all in the heavily Democratic areas.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #674657
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Yeah well Obama wasn't exactly a saint either. All they really did was slam Romney instead of telling us what they were going to do.

Although I admit, Romney did not do a good job of presenting himself as a viable alternative. He just couldn't pull it off.


Thats exactly what Romney did as well bash Obama along with all the birthers and their crew.


This election showed me that President Obama wants to push his own agenda (which is too left) and he doesn't give a damn about people who disagree with him. He's simply going to squabble all day with the House and once again nothing will happen. That's my main concern.


Thats the thing his agenda is not "too left", its the GOP in the House (Tea Party) is "too right" even Fox News says this is the case all the the time. It can be argued that this President has been pretty moderate with no public option health insurance, wall street bailout, and extended the bush tax cuts.

I personally hope McConnell and Boehner (especially him) grows a pair and agrees to work with the President just like last time before the Tea Party refused to vote on anything Boehner negotiated with Obama. The Tea Party held the past 2 years largely hostage.


Taxing the hell out of the rich? Spending more money on government programs we can't afford? Regulation on business?

That is not the agenda of a moderate. President Obama and his staff are NOT moderates and their first four years have reflected that. Granted, the right has disappointed me. The tea partiers are an annoying group of morons, but this administration is more anti-commerce than any other in our history. That's disturbing to me.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674659
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123, we're allowed to be partisan. None of us are in office (at least that I know of).

As for the politicians, they should remember what Al Gore said in his 2000 concession speech: "I call on all Americans – I particularly urge all who stood with us – to unite behind our next president. This is America. Just as we fight hard when the stakes are high, we close ranks and come together when the contest is done. Now is the time to recognize that that which unites us is greater than that which divides us.”


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #674660
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[/quote]

Taxing the hell out of the rich? Spending more money on government programs we can't afford? Regulation on business?

That is not the agenda of a moderate. President Obama and his staff are NOT moderates and their first four years have reflected that. Granted, the right has disappointed me. The tea partiers are an annoying group of morons, but this administration is more anti-commerce than any other in our history. That's disturbing to me.[/quote]

Your incorrect sir, Obama wants to bring the rates for the rich back to Clinton-era rates when this country experienced great economic growth. Dont get me started on all the deductions and tax credits the rich are able to take (just ask Romney). Anti commerce? Not much, the market under Obama has experienced tremendous growth the Dow is up over 50%!! since he took office four years ago, only FDR and Clinton experienced such returns while in office, this is in the WSJ see below.

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2012/11/06/what-an-obama-win-may-mean-for-stocks/

Facts are facts cant really argue with them.

I am a moderate dem, I vote on policy issues and raw data. Today I even voted for a Republican on my ballot for a state seat. I actually disect the unemployment numbers, commerce data (import and export) and other crap you dont even want to know straight from the federal reserve myself and that is what I base my decisions on what policies to support. I dont care for ads and political talking points, I look at the facts.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674661
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Fox calculates 290 Obama and 203 Romney.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #674662
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Of course you're allowed to be partisan. But does that really make for a better country? When people in our government are "partisan" it just means they won't get along. The last two years is living proof of that. The Dems are too left, the GOP is too right.

The word "bipartisan" is often a postive thing. Clinton and the republicans of the nineties were, but it's not looking that way now. I wouldn't have such an issue with President Obama if he simply took the initiative (like supporting the Simpson-Bowles plan!!!) to try and work with the other side. But to do this, he has to concede just as the right has to concede. It's about compromise.


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Alright im off folks, have a good night! Glad this is all over, now lets put this all behind us and work toward restoring America.


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