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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #672997
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Unless I misunderstood, Mittens cancelled his events today too after the President cancelled that Florida event.

It might hurt Willard more in that the news is about this super storm, not the election. That is a day, maybe two at the least lost National TV coverage for him. Who'll be on TV alot? The President, a perk of incumbency. (Think of people's paternal reactions to national emergencies.) After Katrina, no President or national candidate ever wants to be accused of not doing enough or be seen as not being actively involved enough with any hurricane or such disasters. And Willard can't really complain otherwise he'll be criticized for politicizing a natural disaster. It's a media narrative neither side can dictate or control.

This can't be side about their proxys. Like this religious yahoo from the right-wing:

Sandy is God punishing America

http://defendproclaimthefaith.org/blog/?p=2984


Christ I hate these religious nuts. Ah well, you had to figure it was bound to happen. "God will punish the Northeastern states for allowing homosexuality" Tickles my funny bone actually lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673005
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If Romney Loses, it will be Scalia's Fault

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...ush_v_gore.html

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sonny_Black] #673012
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
No, the storm won't determine anything. Especially since it's hitting mostly blue states that are going to go for Obama anyway.


So you agree with me that Romney could benefit from the storm?



I totally disagree. These campaign trips mean very little at this point. On the other hand, President Obama gets to go on TV from the White House showing what a President does during a crisis. If anything, I expect Obama to get a boost in his approval rating, especially after the glowing review Governor Christie gave him this afternoon.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673014
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".........Save Barack Obama"? Now he needs to be saved? Nate Silver says he has 73.6% chance of winning.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673035
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Honestly this storm has nothing to do with the election. It has nothing to do with Obama or Romney, and the states it's hitting are in Obama's pocket anyway.

People have made up their minds at this point. It's all about who shows up on voting day.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #673037
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
"God will punish the Northeastern states for allowing homosexuality"


Actually, God meant to punish just Chris Christie. However he confused him with the Northeastern states.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #673042
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Honestly this storm has nothing to do with the election. It has nothing to do with Obama or Romney, and the states it's hitting are in Obama's pocket anyway.

People have made up their minds at this point. It's all about who shows up on voting day.


It has taken the election completely out of the media and could all the way until the end of the week, maybe until election day.

I think Obama wants to lose. He can move somewhere, and make tens-of-millions writing books and making personal appearances.

Also look for us to strike Libya by Sunday. Just a guess.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673047
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Wow. This could be a close, but divisive election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...-to-lean-obama/

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #673050
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Wow. This could be a close, but divisive election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...-to-lean-obama/



I'm not from the US so have no idea if ABC is biased but if that's true it's terrible news for Obama considering how liberal Pennsylvania is supposed to be .

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Camarel] #673051
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Wow. This could be a close, but divisive election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...-to-lean-obama/



I'm not from the US so have no idea if ABC is biased but if that's true it's terrible news for Obama considering how liberal Pennsylvania is supposed to be .


There is difference between voting Democrat and being Liberal. PA is very conservative in lifestyle and lots of NRA members.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #673053
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Wow. This could be a close, but divisive election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...-to-lean-obama/



I'm not from the US so have no idea if ABC is biased but if that's true it's terrible news for Obama considering how liberal Pennsylvania is supposed to be .


There is difference between voting Democrat and being Liberal. PA is very conservative in lifestyle and lots of NRA members.



Fair enough i should've said Democrat saying that i may even be wrong though

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673057
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PA is very "southern" when you go between Philly and Pittsburgh. Literally. Lots of pickup trucks and country music fans. Guns. Jesus. People actually have a southern accent in those parts.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673079
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I know I said I would quit, but can the local factbusters verify whether its true Romney only called the GOP Governors affected by Sandy?

With this reality we live in, I can't tell what's obviously false or true anymore.

EDIT - one right-wing tweet conspiracy I'm reading this morning is Christie is trying to sabotage Romney so this would open up a '16 bid for himself.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #673091
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Wow. This could be a close, but divisive election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...-to-lean-obama/


Disagree with some of that chart by abc news. Florida and Colorado are definitely Romney at this point. But it's true at this point everything else is a toss up


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #673093
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Unless I misunderstood, Mittens cancelled his events today too after the President cancelled that Florida event.

It might hurt Willard more in that the news is about this super storm, not the election. That is a day, maybe two at the least lost National TV coverage for him. Who'll be on TV alot? The President, a perk of incumbency. (Think of people's paternal reactions to national emergencies.) After Katrina, no President or national candidate ever wants to be accused of not doing enough or be seen as not being actively involved enough with any hurricane or such disasters. And Willard can't really complain otherwise he'll be criticized for politicizing a natural disaster. It's a media narrative neither side can dictate or control.

This can't be side about their proxys. Like this religious yahoo from the right-wing:

Sandy is God punishing America

http://defendproclaimthefaith.org/blog/?p=2984


Christ I hate these religious nuts. Ah well, you had to figure it was bound to happen. "God will punish the Northeastern states for allowing homosexuality" Tickles my funny bone actually lol


Tell me about it. These guys need to keep their religious beliefs out of politics and leave what God wanted or didn't want out of it.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673098
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
I know I said I would quit, but can the local factbusters verify whether its true Romney only called the GOP Governors affected by Sandy?

With this reality we live in, I can't tell what's obviously false or true anymore.

EDIT - one right-wing tweet conspiracy I'm reading this morning is Christie is trying to sabotage Romney so this would open up a '16 bid for himself.



Confirmed, I just saw on Fox and MSNBC that Romney only called Republican Governors yesterday. While Obama called ALL affected states (regardless of party) including Republican Party Convention's keynote speaker from NJ Chris Christie THREE times yesterday even waking him up from sleep.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673102
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Although I usually think of Governor Christie as an arrogant blowhard, his handling of the crisis has been exemplary, and his praise of President Obama was surprisingly gracious.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #673103
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Although I usually think of Governor Christie as an arrogant blowhard, his handling of the crisis has been exemplary, and his praise of President Obama was surprisingly gracious.


Hey SB, you're back!! clap All is ok? I take it you have power back?

Yes, I can't stand Christie's know-it-all attitude and his very very rude behavior at times, BUT I do give him credit for, at least now, putting politics aside and give credit where credit is do. I hear he and the mayor (NJ Mayor maybe?) are having issues??

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #673105
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Wow. This could be a close, but divisive election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...-to-lean-obama/


Disagree with some of that chart by abc news. Florida and Colorado are definitely Romney at this point. But it's true at this point everything else is a toss up


If Obama could not hold on to this state, Florida, which has a huge minority population, plus all the NY types who relocated, I think he's in big trouble in Ohio, PA, Iowa and other states.

Just a guess.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #673115
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No Vinny, FLorida is a weird state. All the NY people are in Dade and Broward counties in the Southeast, and they will vote Obama by more than 55%. In the midddle is the I-4 corridor, which stretches from Daytona through Orlando to Tampa Bay. There are midwest transplants, people in NASA, toursim and others in Orlando, ditto Tampa Bay. This could go either way and usually does. Obama carried it last time this time he trails here. North of I-4 corridor, it might as well be Alabama.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673121
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At the least Romney has a small lead in Florida. Obama needs to focus on Pennsylvania (a state that's become tighter) and the Midwest (also very tight)


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To all: In my opinion, Christie, despite how some may feel about him, is restoring NJ economically just like Romeny will help the US economically if he is elected. If Obama is re-elected, this country will be in rapid decline. He is a Socialist. Period. Please be advised. We're in the middle of a very critical election.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673138
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I disagree. I believe that Romney's ideas will destroy the progress we've made so far.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Mist] #673140
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Hey remember in the GOP debates when Romney wanted to privatize FEMA?

Oh yeah FEMA spending was "immoral," that victims in Tennessee, Mississippi, and Louisiana should've have received government assistance. "It makes no sense!"

You all don't think he'll be hammered with this by the weekend, at the latest next monday? (This buttered with Christie publicly trying to decapitate Willard's dreams.)

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #673142
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO


In regards to that: Did you see the clips of reporters asking Mitt over and over again about Fema and if he'd get rid of it. The guy totally ignores them and keeps right on walking. confused

Mitt's all about pleasing the crowd he happens to be with at the time.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #673144
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette

In regards to that: Did you see the clips of reporters asking Mitt over and over again about Fema and if he'd get rid of it. The guy totally ignores them and keeps right on walking. confused

Mitt's all about pleasing the crowd he happens to be with at the time.


TIS


Instead of doing a campaign rally disguised as a charity event (with banners and press passes still calling this a "Victory Rally"), why didn't he just stay home for one day and I dunno, donate a million bucks to the Red Cross? And what do you know, he's back out campaigning tomorrow in Florida. (Huh, I thuoght he had that state won. What gives Skinny?)

Ah, Skinny will defend Willard, including not even calling the Democratic Governors of the states going through this mess and how FEMA really is getting in the way of recovery. And that Cristie is evil or something. Whatever his sources will tell him tonight, tomorrow.

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Michael "Brownie" Brown is the one person Willard doesn't want publicly criticizing another President on how to respond to a Hurricane. What's next, Jerry Sandusky attacking a youth athletics program?

You're not doing a heck of a job, Brownie.

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Michael "Brownie" Brown is the one person Willard doesn't want publicly criticizing another President on how to respond to a Hurricane. What's next, Jerry Sandusky attacking a youth athletics program?

You're not doing a heck of a job, Brownie.



Did I hear Mr. "heck of a job Brownie" criticized the President for acting too swiftly? confused


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Why all the hate on Romney? Seriously guys what the hell does Romney have to do except not say something stupid (which he has), help the victims (which he has), and try to win an election. He's the challenger, not the commander in chief, so there isn't a whole lot he can do.

If this was the other way around, you all would be saying nothing against our President.


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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette

In regards to that: Did you see the clips of reporters asking Mitt over and over again about Fema and if he'd get rid of it. The guy totally ignores them and keeps right on walking. confused

Mitt's all about pleasing the crowd he happens to be with at the time.


TIS


Instead of doing a campaign rally disguised as a charity event (with banners and press passes still calling this a "Victory Rally"), why didn't he just stay home for one day and I dunno, donate a million bucks to the Red Cross? And what do you know, he's back out campaigning tomorrow in Florida. (Huh, I thuoght he had that state won. What gives Skinny?)

Ah, Skinny will defend Willard, including not even calling the Democratic Governors of the states going through this mess and how FEMA really is getting in the way of recovery. And that Cristie is evil or something. Whatever his sources will tell him tonight, tomorrow.


LOL Ronnie.

Is saying "Willard" supposed to by like saying "Barack Hussein Obama"?

I'm watching the election like everyone else Ronnie. Not really defending or criticizing anyone right now. Thanks.

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