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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #664254
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe

The Republican Party of the United States, also known as the GOP for "Grand Old Party," elects delegates to represent states at its national conventions. The process of becoming a delegate can be tricky, as each state has its own rules and process. In addition, those in control of the process vary with each Republican presidential candidate. The Republican National Committee dictates when states can begin delegate selection.



I thought the RNC was very patriotic. The floor was red, all the seats were blue, and delegates were all white. wink

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #664256
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@ so a country singer runs his mouth and it's "reactionary" but many in other genres support Mumia and well that's awesome.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #664257
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
so a country singer runs his mouth and it's "reactionary" but many in other genres support Mumia and well that's awesome.


Mumia? Who is that?


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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
so a country singer runs his mouth and it's "reactionary" but many in other genres support Mumia and well that's awesome.


Mumia? Who is that?


He's C's cousin.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #664259
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
@ so a country singer runs his mouth and it's "reactionary" but many in other genres support Mumia and well that's awesome.


Deflection rears its ugly head. I don't believe I wrote a mumbling word about Mumia. You have zero idea what I think about Mumia nor is that case relevant in any way to the matter at hand.

What I did write about was wondering why an ignorant and evidently malicious man like Hank Williams Jr. finds it necessary to lie and claim that the President is a Muslim. Why does Hank Williams Jr. think that the President hates farmers or fishing? Why does he think that the President hates cowboys? Does he have any evidence to support that claim? Or is he just excreting ignorance through his piehole?

Also is there something wrong with Muslim politicians? Should there be religious tests for office? Williams' comments seems to imply that there is something wrong with a Muslim politician and we should have such tests. But I'm also confused because people were blasting the President for attending Wright's church. Now some people are saying he's a Muslim. Well which is it? And why did he compare the President to Hitler?

And yes Williams' music and views are indeed reactionary. I'm glad the South lost the Civil War. Williams...not so much.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #664261
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so Country music can't talk about Obama or politics but when Bush was President, it was just fine? how about some consistency!!!

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #664264
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
so Country music can't talk about Obama or politics but when Bush was President, it was just fine? how about some consistency!!!


Anybody can talk about the President or Politics BUT the way they are doing it (e.g. the example cited above) is blatantly false, racist, disrespectful, and just plain ignorant.

When Kanye West called President Bush racist because of the lack of a federal response to Hurricane Katrina, everybody jumped on him and demanded he apologize (which he did).

In this case nobody is calling for this country singer to apologize or anything. That is a lack of consistency.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Lilo] #664275
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Or is he just excreting ignorance through his piehole?

This.

What makes me sick are those who feel compelled to make up lies. If you disagree with the man's policies, then come up with an intelligent, well thought-out argument. However, spouting lies and hate-mongering makes me want to puke.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #664288
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@ Lilo,

It's wrong to say Obama is a Muslim now. Especially in this context he's using it as an insult.

Truthfully, Obama was a Muslim as a child. Indonesia requires all children to have a religion and for Obama, his father Lolo Soetoro registered him as a Muslim. Even Catholic schools in Indonesia are forced to offer Koran classes for Muslim students because it's illegal to prosthelytize. Obama talks about Koran class in one of his books.

Had Obama been raised in the US, he probably would not have had a religion at all. Ironically he's the only Protestant on either ticket which is kind of funny.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #664290
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I don't get why in America it's such a big deal about the religion of Candidates etc?? Who cares if their a Muslim, Christian or Aetheist etc, if they are a good president that's all that should matter.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: NickyScarfo] #664291
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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
I don't get why in America it's such a big deal about the religion of Candidates etc?? Who cares if their a Muslim, Christian or Aetheist etc, if they are a good president that's all that should matter.


Because America never had a President with anything but a Christian background before. With Obama, we have a President with a Muslim background in Indonesia who converted to Christianity.

Even JFK had problems being a Catholic. Religion has always been an issue.

Why do you think Obama suddenly started going to church four weeks ago?

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #664310
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If Obama just started going to church 4 weeks ago, why did the Fox News crowd raise such a stink about Reverend Wright? You really need to do a little research and not believe what Rush Limbaugh tells you.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: NickyScarfo] #664324
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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
I don't get why in America it's such a big deal about the religion of Candidates etc?? Who cares if their a Muslim, Christian or Aetheist etc, if they are a good president that's all that should matter.


I agree, and think most others do too. There is a very vocal, self-righteous segment of the population, however, that seeks to exploit fears and prejudices of others by demonizing Muslim Americans, atheists, etc.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #664332
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These rumors are ridiculous, but they persist because ignorance spreads like wildfire.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #664334
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
These rumors are ridiculous, but they persist because ignorance spreads like wildfire.


IMHO Ignorance & in many cases obstinance. I think many know they are spreading lies and simply don't care. rolleyes


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #664336
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I seem to remember something in the constitution about there being no religious tests to allow people to hold office. Where are the "original intent" people when we need tham?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #664337
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If Rush or any of the talking heads on Fox News said Obama worshipped Satan, more than half their audience would believe it.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #664339
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
If Rush or any of the talking heads on Fox News said Obama worshipped Satan, more than half their audience would believe it.


JL (How are you btw?)

If I'm not mistaken, when Obama was running in 08 some on the right did think he WAS the anti-Christ no? lol I'm sure some still want to believe it. Ridiculous! Everyone knows the anti-Christ was W. lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #664340
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette


JL (How are you btw?)

If I'm not mistaken, when Obama was running in 08 some on the right did think he WAS the anti-Christ no? lol I'm sure some still want to believe it. Ridiculous! Everyone knows the anti-Christ was W. lol


I'm good and still here. How are you?

The far right made so many outrageous claims in 08, it wouldn't surprise me. Hell, the birthers are still trying to say he wasn't born in Hawaii. rolleyes


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Don Marco] #664341
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Originally Posted By: Don Marco
If Obama just started going to church 4 weeks ago, why did the Fox News crowd raise such a stink about Reverend Wright? You really need to do a little research and not believe what Rush Limbaugh tells you.


He started going again after a long leave of absence.

The AP and NY Times did the stories on Obama going back to church.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #664342
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Originally Posted By: Don Marco
If Obama just started going to church 4 weeks ago, why did the Fox News crowd raise such a stink about Reverend Wright? You really need to do a little research and not believe what Rush Limbaugh tells you.


He started going again after a long leave of absence.

The AP and NY Times did the stories on Obama going back to church.


"Going back" and "Just started" are not the same thing.

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Paul Ryan bears an uncanny resemblance to Eddie Munster.


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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Paul Ryan bears an uncanny resemblance to Eddie Munster.



Re: Election 2012 [Re: Just Lou] #664346
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Paul Ryan bears an uncanny resemblance to Eddie Munster.




He looks like the guy from glee in that picture lol

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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Originally Posted By: Don Marco
If Obama just started going to church 4 weeks ago, why did the Fox News crowd raise such a stink about Reverend Wright? You really need to do a little research and not believe what Rush Limbaugh tells you.


He started going again after a long leave of absence.

The AP and NY Times did the stories on Obama going back to church.


"Going back" and "Just started" are not the same thing.


Either way, he took a long time off, and the mainstream media felt the need to do stories about Obama going to church again.

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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
I seem to remember something in the constitution about there being no religious tests to allow people to hold office. Where are the "original intent" people when we need tham?

Don't kid yourself, DT. There are still too many who feel that America is a Judeo-Christian nation. If there weren't, Obama wouldn't be forced into photo-ops at Church. He could just tell everyone it's no one's business what religion he practices (if any). And I say this as a Democrat who is also a practicing Catholic.

Speaking of which: @ Skinny_Vinny.

What difference does it make if Obama studied Islam in school?

I mean, I went to Catholic school for 17 years (I'm including college at Fordham University, a Jesuit school), and we studied other religions extensively. And my schooling ended over thirty years ago, before it was considered politically correct to do so.


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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Please note my comments above, though. We searched and searched every shot of the crowd and couldn't find one Asian, one Latino, but finally spotted one black man in the crowd. Thousands of people, and they're all white? How does that represent America?






Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #664359
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Either way, he took a long time off, and the mainstream media felt the need to do stories about Obama going to church again.


Why did you feel the need to change the facts in your argument?


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@ Pizzaboy.

he didn't "Study" Islam. He attended Koran classes because it was his religion. The Christian students took Bible classes. That's the law in Indonesia. Totally different than studying other religions in high school or university level.

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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Either way, he took a long time off, and the mainstream media felt the need to do stories about Obama going to church again.


Why did you feel the need to change the facts in your argument?


I didn't. I said "started going" and should have said "started going again". Hardly a major mistake. I'm well aware of Obama's Christian background and know he went to church in Chicago.

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