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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #663709
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
^^^i think the word you want to use is segregated instead of racist. Thats a pretty big generalization.


The Tea Part is racist for being all white, but when people turned the tables on liberals and their OWS movement for being all white, people didn't like it. And make no mistake about it, OWS was very white although there were fake attempts by Al Sharpton to get blacks involved but people saw OWS for what it was. A largely white political movement. Hypocrisy.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #663715
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SV, your complete inability to complete a logical thought is so very persistent. The audience of a baseball game, the members of this board, they are OPEN to everyone. Who chooses to participate or not is a different story. Also, Geoff and SC are not running for POTUS and VPOTUS (although it's not a terrible idea).

Government is supposed to be inclusive, it's supposed to be for ALL Americans. This is the most ethnically diverse country in the world, yet I think that the population was poorly represented in the audience of the GOP convention. And maybe I can't spot a Latino in the audience, but I damn well can spot an Asian or black person, and there weren't any.

As for OWS, perhaps that speaks well to minorities that they didn't participate, since the members were mostly without any sort of real political agenda. All they did was protest things, but weren't very definite about what they were for or against. We just knew they were for themselves and against everyone else.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #663717
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Well said Sicilian Babe.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #663738
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By the way, did ya'll catch Jan Brewer's (AZ Republican Governor) on MSNBC last night?

"I know if President Obama is elected in November, which I hope he is, he will be able to come together with all of us and come up with a solution. I believe he will secure our borders. And therefore, we can resolve all of the other issues as a simple matter," she said.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: dontomasso] #663752
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What was that Clint Eastwood thing about?













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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #663765
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i think skinny vinny makes alot of valid points. why even bring the race card out? maybe black people just didn't wanna attend that event, who knows. were there people outside preventing minorities from entering the building? people are too quick to wanna label someone or some group as racist. why does it seem like on here left=good while right=bad when both parties have done damage to this county?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #663768
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Diversifying the GOP isn't just good PR: it may be necessary for the party's national viability. The Republican base has gotten whiter and whiter, but whites are shrinking as a percentage of the overall electorate...
Huffington

Who would have thought that states like Virginia and North Carolina would be swing states for a Black democrat in 2012?

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Eventually, probably not in 2016 but perhaps by 2020 and definitely by 2024, given current demographic and voting trends, a state like Texas will become a swing state. That would be the death knell for the current version of the Republican Party winning a national election. Like it or not the country is changing. The Republican Party has to win a respectable proportion of the Hispanic-American vote to win the Presidency. This will be even more urgent as the Hispanic-American population grows and moves to "red" states.

Unless there is a seismic shift of white liberals and moderates to the Republican Party over the next few elections, the Republican Party will not be able to run on its current messages and win.

In my view both parties are just different wings of the same system but the Republican Party since Goldwater and Nixon has made a bargain with some very reactionary elements of the country. But those groups are declining in numbers. The Party will have to adapt and change, just as Clinton did for the Democrats in 92. It's better for both parties and the country if neither party can take voters for granted or write off their votes.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Five_Felonies] #663780
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
i think skinny vinny makes alot of valid points. why even bring the race card out? maybe black people just didn't wanna attend that event, who knows. were there people outside preventing minorities from entering the building? people are too quick to wanna label someone or some group as racist. why does it seem like on here left=good while right=bad when both parties have done damage to this county?


I posted this above; you probably didn't read it.

"Even Businessweek thinks so:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-30/republicans-stage-diverse-show-amid-struggle-to-draw-minorities"

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #663814
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Originally Posted By: olivant
By the way, did ya'll catch Jan Brewer's (AZ Republican Governor) on MSNBC last night?

"I know if President Obama is elected in November, which I hope he is, he will be able to come together with all of us and come up with a solution. I believe he will secure our borders. And therefore, we can resolve all of the other issues as a simple matter," she said.


she said that? i am shocked.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #663817
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I saw that too. LOL It had to be a mistake. I swear that women is in Lala land half the time anyway. She never seems "all there" IMHO lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #663819
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I saw when MSNBC tried to ask her some questions after the RNC and she made believe that she couldnt hear them so she didnt have to answer. The question was about Romney's flip flops (Healthcare, women's rights, etc)


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #663821
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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
^^^i think the word you want to use is segregated instead of racist. Thats a pretty big generalization.


The Tea Part is racist for being all white, but when people turned the tables on liberals and their OWS movement for being all white, people didn't like it. And make no mistake about it, OWS was very white although there were fake attempts by Al Sharpton to get blacks involved but people saw OWS for what it was. A largely white political movement. Hypocrisy.


OWS for the most part (over 50%) were unemployed hippies and hipsters, homeless people following the group for free food/place to stay, and a bunch of other random people protesting for shits and giggles. I know a few of my friends who went to OWS just to take pictures, etc. OWS never got a coherent message across.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #663832
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I'm a Democrat and I thought OWS was absolutely fucking ridiculous. A bunch of aimless kids, trust fund goofballs and aging hippies with no direction and no end game. They had no idea what they were protesting and in the end it showed.

Capitalism ain't going nowhere. Go occupy an online job application, maybe take a bath, people will take you a lot more seriously.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #663843
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^^Amen to that.

A buddy of mine from college was soo happy when OWS fizzled out since he had to deal with them every single day because he worked for the commercial real estate company which owned Zuccotti Park where they were occupying. He told me stories of all the crap they found in the park after the OWS left things like needles, drugs, condoms, human feces, etc.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Five_Felonies] #663913
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
i think skinny vinny makes alot of valid points. why even bring the race card out? maybe black people just didn't wanna attend that event, who knows. were there people outside preventing minorities from entering the building? people are too quick to wanna label someone or some group as racist. why does it seem like on here left=good while right=bad when both parties have done damage to this county?


I pointed out, quite correctly, that it was a bit of a shock to see a sea of white faces. If you're supposed to be representing the people, then how can you claim to do so when the people are not represented? I never used the word racist. I believe that Vinny was the first one, as usual, to throw that card down.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #663918
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True SB. It's obvious exactly who is playing the "race card." Even Lindsey Graham (R) of S.C., talking about diversity, and how "THEY" are losing badly, said:

The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a...03a7_story.html

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Five_Felonies] #664011
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
i think skinny vinny makes alot of valid points. why even bring the race card out? maybe black people just didn't wanna attend that event, who knows. were there people outside preventing minorities from entering the building? people are too quick to wanna label someone or some group as racist. why does it seem like on here left=good while right=bad when both parties have done damage to this county?


Forest Hills Queens is the kind of neighborhood where whites self-identify as liberal, but if you were to arrange for a bus full of black day camp kids to use their private swimming pools, they would pull their own kids out and find another pool to use. The same people whose parents and grandparents took the freedom buses to Alabama in the 60's were complaining when Forest Hills zone was changed to send kids to mostly black Jamaica HS. Hypocrites.

The same white people looking at the demographics at the RNC are the ones who would never let their kids go to a mostly black NYC HS or swim at McCarren pool in Williamsburg. Everyone else is the racist though.

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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
SV, your complete inability to complete a logical thought is so very persistent. The audience of a baseball game, the members of this board, they are OPEN to everyone. Who chooses to participate or not is a different story. Also, Geoff and SC are not running for POTUS and VPOTUS (although it's not a terrible idea).

Government is supposed to be inclusive, it's supposed to be for ALL Americans. This is the most ethnically diverse country in the world, yet I think that the population was poorly represented in the audience of the GOP convention. And maybe I can't spot a Latino in the audience, but I damn well can spot an Asian or black person, and there weren't any.

As for OWS, perhaps that speaks well to minorities that they didn't participate, since the members were mostly without any sort of real political agenda. All they did was protest things, but weren't very definite about what they were for or against. We just knew they were for themselves and against everyone else.


C,

Blacks are free to attend the RNC just like they're free to attend OWS or a Yankees game or NHL game. They choose not to. No one is preventing them from attending.

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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny

C,

Blacks are free to attend the RNC just like they're free to attend OWS or a Yankees game or NHL game. They choose not to. No one is preventing them from attending.


Not sure what your "C" reference is; however, attendance to attend the convention is not a choice. You must be elected as a delegate. Do a little research before you shoot your mouth off.
The Republican Party of the United States, also known as the GOP for "Grand Old Party," elects delegates to represent states at its national conventions. The process of becoming a delegate can be tricky, as each state has its own rules and process. In addition, those in control of the process vary with each Republican presidential candidate. The Republican National Committee dictates when states can begin delegate selection.


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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny

C,

Blacks are free to attend the RNC just like they're free to attend OWS or a Yankees game or NHL game. They choose not to. No one is preventing them from attending.


Not sure what your "C" reference is; however, attendance to attend the convention is not a choice. You must be elected as a delegate. Do a little research before you shoot your mouth off.



Wow ..... C, whistle
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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #664102
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Brass balls? On the anonymous internet? Not even close.


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C,

not all attendees were elected officials. same goes for the DNC in Charlotte. In fact, it will be very easy to get into the stadium this week.

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Gee, why don't you just come out with it, Vinny? Don't hold back. Or don't you have the goods?


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C,

You're simply mistaken. "Fans" who often acted as volunteers were allowed, even encouraged to attend the events at the Forum.

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Who is "C"? confused


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Originally Posted By: SC
Who is "C"? confused




I was wondering the same thing, who IS C? confused Vinny seems to have disappeared.


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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Originally Posted By: SC
Who is "C"? confused




I was wondering the same thing, who IS C? confused Vinny seems to have disappeared.


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C was the gatekeeper at the RNC who made it easy for people to gain admission (especially black and hispanic people); he'll also be the gatekeeper at the DNC where he'll make admission relatively easy.


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^^lmao

Speaking of the DNC, I have two friends who will partake in the DNC activities this week. Should be interesting, I want to hear Bill's and Obama's speeches, respectively.

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If I cared it would be interesting to do some research to see when exactly country music (and many country musicians) became so reactionary because some of the older country music was about the downtrodden and/or the working class.

We are really going to have some interesting discussions going forward in this country regardless of who wins the election. The intense feeling that some have of having "lost" something because Obama is President is quite telling.

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“We’ve got a Muslim for a President who hates cowboys, hates cowgirls, hates fishing, hates farming, loves gays, and we hate him!” Williams said, as the crowd let out a loud but less-than-unanimous cheer.
The 63-year-old singer began his anti-gay commentary a few songs earlier, mocking “queer guitar pickers” in the middle of “All My Rowdy Friends Have Settled Down” before moving on to his next target: Liberal politicians, who he told to “move to Mexico” at the end of “We Don’t Apologize For America.”


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