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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Five_Felonies] #657587
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
i don't really know very much about the mafia down there. how many different families/clans are active?



A lot,there are about 4500-5000 made members.As for La Stidda i really don't know.Maybe carmela can help.

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Strax] #657594
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Here is the partial reconstruction of the mandamento headed by the Montevago boss Giuseppe La Rocca (in the Agrigento province again) made following the examination of anonymous letters sent to the police by Calogero Capizzi (former boss of the Ribera mafia family turned police informant) and the examination of papers found in his car after his disappearance.
It’s from the book “La mafia, la Stidda” by Franco Castaldo.

Montevago mandamento (1990)

Montevago family:


Giuseppe La Rocca (boss; capo mandamento)
Gino Guzzo

Sciacca family:

Salvatore Di Ganci (boss)
Ignazio Ambla
Accursio Dimino
Stefano Vitabile
Stefano Greco
Salvatore Greco
Francesco Dimino
Salvatore Ragusa
Calogero Maietta
Rosario Messana
Giacomo Ciaccio
Giacomo Latino
Oreste Bonavires
Giuseppe Lombardo
Francesco Lombardo
Giuseppe Bono (born 1931)
Giuseppe Bono (born 1910)
Calogero Liotta

Ribera family:

Simone Capizzi (boss; underboss of the mandamento)
Paolo Capizzi (born 1925)
Mauro Capizzi
Giuseppe Amico
Antonino Colletti

Sambuca family:

Pietro Campo (consigliere of the mandamento)
Michele Caloroso

Lucca Sicula family:

Silvestre Danna

Bivona family:

Carmelo Noto (boss)

Burgio Family:

Giovanni Derelitto (boss)

Last edited by Dwalin2011; 07/28/12 12:07 PM.

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2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657598
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La Stidda (and not meant to take this thread off topic, so I apologize) is nothing more of a gang of Cosa Nostra fuckups who couldn't and wouldn't adhere to mafia rules. Today...they have pretty much all been absolved into cosa nostra families again. They're still a bunch of fuck ups, imo.

Dwalin...good posting there! I wonder if that author Franco Castaldo is the same as the writer behind the online page on facebook I read everyday.
Would anybody here know? He posts up to the minute and is very good.
Here is link to the fb page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/GRANDANGO...do/160077363746


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: carmela] #657609
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Originally Posted By: carmela

Dwalin...good posting there! I wonder if that author Franco Castaldo is the same as the writer behind the online page on facebook I read everyday.
Would anybody here know? He posts up to the minute and is very good.
Here is link to the fb page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/GRANDANGO...do/160077363746


Yes, he is the same person. His books about the Agrigento mafia are very interesting. He send me his latest book about Falsone and Messina when I couldn't find it in any shops and didn't even charge me for it.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dwalin2011] #657706
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I tried to write the succession of provincial representatives of all the provinces represented in the mafia commission, but the sources I found state incomplete information, many dates are missing and there is very little information about the underbosses and consiglieri. Also, there is much confusion about the Catania province, as I don't understand who was Santapaola's successor as representative of the province. Different sources I found on internet and in books list his son Vincenzo, Calogero Conti and Eugenio Galea, but don't state the chronological order and the dates. Maybe somebody could provide information so I can fill the missing parts?

Palermo province

1958-1963


Salvatore Greco (died a natural death as a fugitive)

1963-1968

????

1968-1975

Gaetano Badalamenti
with
Stefano Bontate (underboss; murdered)
Luciano Leggio (consigliere; died in prison while serving a life sentence)

1975-1978

Gaetano Badalamenti (died in prison in the USA while serving 45 years)

1978-1986


Michele Greco (died in prison while serving a life sentence)

1986-1993

Salvatore Riina (serving a life sentence)

1993-2006

Bernardo Provenzano (serving a life sentence)

2006

Ruling panel composed of:

Antonino Rotolo (serving a life sentence)
Francesco Bonura (serving 23 years)
Antonino Cinà (serving 16 years)

????-2008

Benedetto Capizzi (serving a life sentence; he was already serving even before he became the head of the commission, but was released under house arrest; I wonder why did they choose a chairman in such an unstable condition)



Trapani province

????-????


Andrea Fazio

????-1981

Nicola Buccellato (died in freedom a natural death; though at least one source states he was murdered; maybe they confused him with someone else)

1981-1993


Francesco Messina Denaro (died a natural death as a fugitive)
with
Mariano Agate (underboss; serving a life sentence)
Vincenzo Virga (consigliere; serving a life sentence)

1993-present

Matteo Messina Denaro (fugitive)



Caltanissetta province

????-1978


Giuseppe Di Cristina (murdered)

1978-????

Giuseppe Nasca

????-1992

Giuseppe Madonia (serving a life sentence)

1992-1994

????

1994-????

Domenico Vaccaro (free)
with
Luigi Ilardo (underboss)

????-1996

Luigi Ilardo (acting boss; murdered)

1996-1998

Lorenzo Vaccaro (acting boss; murdered)

1998-2001

????

2001-2004

Angelo Schillaci (serving 4 years and 6 months, in continuation with a previous sentence of 12 years)

2004-present?


Alfredo Schillaci or Domenico Vaccaro



Catania province

????-1978


Giuseppe Calderone (chairman of the regional commission; murdered)
with
Calogero Conti -> Antonino Calderone (underboss)

1978-????

Salvatore Ferrera

????-1982


Giuseppe Ferrera (serving a life sentence)

1982-1993

Benedetto Santapaola (serving a life sentence)
with
Eugenio Galea (underboss)

1993-present


Vincenzo Santapaola
with
Francesco La Rocca (underboss; serving a life sentence)


Enna province

????-????


Angelo Mongiovì (moved to Venezuela, don’t know what happened later)

????-1983

Giovanni Mungiovino (murdered)

1983-????

Francesco Seggio (murdered)

????-1985 ('86 ?)

Giacomo Sollami (serving a life sentence)

1985 (’86 ?)-1990

Paolo Valvo
with
Salvatore Saitta (underboss)
Gaetano Leonardo (consigliere)

1990-1992

Salvatore Saitta (murdered)
with
Gaetano Leonardo (underboss; serving a life sentence)
Liborio Miccichè (consigliere; murdered)

????-????

Raffaele Bevilacqua (serving a life sentence)

????-????

Salvatore Seminara
with
Vincenzo Militello (consigliere)

Last edited by Dwalin2011; 07/29/12 07:24 PM.

Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657756
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domenico 'don mimì' vaccaro is free and probably boss of caltanissetta province

vincenzo santapaola is probably the boss of catania province since 1993 although arrested several times he was always acquitted in the trials
francesco la rocca, boss of caltagirone, is underboss of the province

salvatore seminara, boss of aidone family is the provincial boss of enna
vincenzo militello, boss of regalbuto, is consigliere provinciale

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657761
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Quote:
i don't really know very much about the mafia down there. how many different families/clans are active?


there about 150-180 active families the made members are about 5.000 with about 50.000 associates

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: m2w] #657777
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Originally Posted By: m2w
domenico 'don mimì' vaccaro is free and probably boss of caltanissetta province

vincenzo santapaola is probably the boss of catania province since 1993 although arrested several times he was always acquitted in the trials
francesco la rocca, boss of caltagirone, is underboss of the province

salvatore seminara, boss of aidone family is the provincial boss of enna
vincenzo militello, boss of regalbuto, is consigliere provinciale


Thanks for the information. I had missed the news about Vaccaro's life sentence for the Ricottone murder being overturned.
But Francesco La Rocca is now in prison, the supreme court upheld this year his and Raffaele Bevilacqua's life sentence for the Calcagno murder.


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657827
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yes ciccio la rocca is in prison and i think his brother gesualdo too
but he's still the boss of caltagirone and provincial underboss and he named some acting boss over there

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: m2w] #658212
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I prepared a chart of the Porto Empedocle family as it was in 1997 according to what is written in the books I have. I chose this group because it was one of the few whose (almost) complete membership I managed to find and the only one for which I have enough photos. I know, there is no consigliere but the informants Pasquale Salemi and Alfonso Falzone (the underboss) for some reason never named one to the police. The family was in disarray in the 90s though after many members were killed by the stidda. Also, I put Domenico Seddio above the other associates on the picture because he was named by Pasquale Salemi as the most powerful one.
However, correct me please if I made any mistakes.

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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #658213
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^^^ Wow, good chart. The first I've seen anyone do on this family. This is the Messina-Salemi-Albanese cosca. There is Calogero Salemi missing, as you and I have spoken about. He was Pasquale Salemi's nephew and also killed by Stidda, indirectly, in a car bomb. There are also Caruana and [BadWord] members that should be on there.
Giuseppe Salemi was just arrested last year, by doing business with Stidda in Operation Hardom.

Good post, Dwalin.

Last edited by carmela; 08/01/12 09:57 PM.

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: carmela] #658214
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Originally Posted By: carmela
^^^ Wow, good chart. The first I've seen anyone do on this family. There is Calogero Salemi missing, as you and I have spoken about. He was Pasquale Salemi's nephew and also killed by Stidda, indirectly, in a car bomb.
Giuseppe Salemi was just arrested last year, by doing business with Stidda in Operation Hardom.

Good post, Dwalin.


I know there were Calogero Salemi and others, I didn't put them on the picture because they were already dead in 1997. It would be interesting to do other charts, but I don't have enough information about the structure and membership of the family before Luigi Putrone who rose to power in 1993.
However, thanks for the appreciation!


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: carmela] #658215
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Originally Posted By: carmela
There are also Caruana and [BadWord] members that should be on there.

But they are from the Siculiana family, headed in the 90s by Giuseppe Renna (probably) and Filippo Sciara.
By the way, why is Cun-trera always substituted by "badword" when we try to write it?


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dwalin2011] #658216
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: carmela
There are also Caruana and [BadWord] members that should be on there.

But they are from the Siculiana family, headed in the 90s by Giuseppe Renna (probably) and Filippo Sciara.
By the way, why is Cun-trera always substituted by "badword" when we try to write it?


Yes, but they were intermarried into the Salemi and Messina families and part of the family. But you're right, they were originally from Siculiana. Today, many reside in Porto Empedocle.

Right, I understand about Calogero, but i see you included Giuseppe Messina, which I assume is Gerlandino's father? He was also killed in '86. Unless is a different Giuseppe?

The word Cun trera gets filtered out by the board censor because of the word c unt.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: carmela] #658217
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Originally Posted By: carmela

Right, I understand about Calogero, but i see you included Giuseppe Messina, which I assume is Gerlandino's father? He was also killed in '86. Unless is a different Giuseppe?

I meant another Giuseppe Messina, the one who was acting boss after Gerlando, Giuseppe and Antonino were killed. He was captured in 2000. In the books they say he was Gerlandino's uncle, but he couldn't possibly be his father's brother since he was also named Giuseppe. Maybe he is the father's cousin or some other relative? I am not sure anymore which Giuseppe is on the photo. Maybe I should have checked for more information before putting him on the picture.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #658221
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I'm confused with this Giuseppe, too. But I'll find out for you and get back to this.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #658295
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anyway ribera, burgio and bivona are not in the same mandamento of montevago

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: m2w] #658303
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Originally Posted By: m2w
anyway ribera, burgio and bivona are not in the same mandamento of montevago

The book says they were in 1990


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dwalin2011] #658316
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: carmela

Right, I understand about Calogero, but i see you included Giuseppe Messina, which I assume is Gerlandino's father? He was also killed in '86. Unless is a different Giuseppe?

I meant another Giuseppe Messina, the one who was acting boss after Gerlando, Giuseppe and Antonino were killed. He was captured in 2000. In the books they say he was Gerlandino's uncle, but he couldn't possibly be his father's brother since he was also named Giuseppe. Maybe he is the father's cousin or some other relative? I am not sure anymore which Giuseppe is on the photo. Maybe I should have checked for more information before putting him on the picture.


Giuseppe Messina on your chart that was captured in 2000, is Gerlando's brother, and Gerlandino's cousin, not his uncle. You have the correct pic there, as well.


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I deleted it, because I was scared of offending some of the more tender members around here. I didn't want to use the word [BadWord] in public.


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oy vey


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #658667
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Quote:
The book says they were in 1990


today bivona is in the same mandamento with alessandria della rocca
ribera is in the same of ciaciana, burgio, luca sicula and others
montevago is in the mandamento with sciacca, sambuca, santa margherita belice
i think in 1990 was the same and that information is incorrect

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Originally Posted By: m2w
Quote:
The book says they were in 1990


today bivona is in the same mandamento with alessandria della rocca
ribera is in the same of ciaciana, burgio, luca sicula and others
montevago is in the mandamento with sciacca, sambuca, santa margherita belice
i think in 1990 was the same and that information is incorrect

Maybe it is incorrect. But don't blame me, blame Calogero Capizzi with his anonymous letters to the police smile I just copied what was in the book.
What sources of information do you have (just being curious)?

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Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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my sources are all the police reports or declarations of informats in the latest 20 years sure more accurate than an anonymous letter

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Originally Posted By: m2w
my sources are all the police reports or declarations of informats in the latest 20 years sure more accurate than an anonymous letter

However, the author of the book, Franco Castaldo, is considered an expert on the mafia of that particular province, I don't think he would have included that chapter in the book if it was based only on anonymous letters. He must have had other sources.
I am not putting in doubt the authority of your sources, don't take offense. I was just wondering about the contradictions between your sources and the information in the book.

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Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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maybe in the 1990 they were an unique mandamento and they split into two after although i doubt it
according to the latest news there is the

sciacca mandamento with sciacca, sambuca, santa margherita and montevago families
boss salvatore di gangi (sciacca) underboss leo sutera (sambuca)

ribera mandamento with ribera, cianciana, burgio, cattolica eraclea and lucca sicula families
boss andrea montalbano (cianciana)

alessandria della rocca mandamento with alessandria della rocca, bivona and santo stefano quisquina families
boss vincenzo ferranti (bivona)

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There is a chart of the Palermo clan?

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this is a list of acting capimandamento in freedom

brancaccio: benedetto graviano

santa maria gesù: cosimo vernengo

pagliarelli: giovanni motisi

passo di rigano: giovanni bosco

porta nuova: tommaso lo presti

san lorenzo: giulio caporrimo

noce: luigi caravello

resuttana: salvatore lo cicero

corleone: rosario lo bue

partinico: nicolò salto

misilmeri: francesco lo gerfo

san mauro castelverde: domenico farinella

bagheria: nicolò greco

cinisi: vito badalamenti

san giuseppe jato: gregorio agrigento

caccamo: domenico rancadore

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I once saw a dossier describing the structure of all known mafia families in Sicily in 1990. Unfortunately, it has been removed from internet and now there is a link to only the first 6 pages. It's in Italian though.

http://www.mafiapedia.it/tiki-index.php?page=L'Organigramma+della+Mafia

Click on mafia.pdf to open it

It's strange they put Salvatore Fragapane into the Caramazza family. I thought that in 1990 he was already a boss of his own family.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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the caramazza family is the same as santa elisabetta family that's coz they put fragapane into it

biagio di giacomo they are talking to is the member of the patriarcas?

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