^^^ that chart, while it looks good, is notorious for blowing evreything outta proportion!

Where would a guy find all that shit? Would he not base it off pretty solid information?

when an fbi report comes out that stats 28 made guys and a chart lists alot more than that, i didn't even count, you gotta start asking questions. another problem with that chart is it seems they wanna list everybody who may or may not have ever done business with the outfit as an associate.

Very true. I always imagined the Outfit being a lot bigger. I didn't think they had 200 soldiers or blown up shit like that, but at least 80 or 90 was my first guess

how would an FBI Agent know the exact membership. Alot of the names on that chart are real and not made up

nobody said they would know every name, but when they cite 28 and some random chart cites over 100 you gotta lean way closer to 28. then you have the same old arguement of what a soldier means in chicago as compared to other families and its not a very enjoyable subject to discuss. there are countless threads on here about the subject though, so search them out as some of them are filled with very good info.

i counted and it says 90 but counting ones who may actually not be made and ones who are are made but not on the chart my guess is between 75 and 115.

Going back to the original subject. Five Felonies what mob guy on the streets is most feared in your opinion?

Regarding that chart - it's accurate, but with two big caveats:

1) It goes ahead and lists all the guys who aren't formally made but might as well be as "soldiers".
2) Its definition of "associate" is extremely broad and includes just about anyone who can be linked to the outfit somehow.

I've been unable to confirm this, but I've been told that half the "associates" listed are legitimate businessmen who have used the services of a business linked with an actual mobster - and some of the aforementioned listed "associates" are in fact nothing more than loansharking customers.

that still technically matches the definition of associate

Huh?

if they associate with mobsters wouldn't they be associates

Are you from Chicago out of interest ?

Yes

why