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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #655494
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WILLIAMSBURG, Va. — In an interview with ABC News on Saturday, Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley called on presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney to release additional years of his tax returns


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #656038
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The tax returns issue is strangling Romney right now. He should probably name his VP choice soon on a week day (if he has already selected one) just to take some wind out of the tax stories.

What's in those returns must bepretty damaging if Mitt thinks not disclosing them is better for the campaign than coming clean.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
The tax returns issue is strangling Romney right now. He should probably name his VP choice soon on a week day (if he has already selected one) just to take some wind out of the tax stories.

What's in those returns must bepretty damaging if Mitt thinks not disclosing them is better for the campaign than coming clean.


And his wife was just on tv saying "YOU PEOPLE have all you need to know." rolleyes


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After skewering the President for only showing 289 different varieties of proof that he was born in the US, don't the Republicans feel a bit petty when Mitt won't release his returns??


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #656161
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
After skewering the President for only showing 289 different varieties of proof that he was born in the US, don't the Republicans feel a bit petty when Mitt won't release his returns??


You KNOW the President has got to be having a good laugh with that. lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #656162
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"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #656181
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
[quote=klydon1]And his wife was just on tv saying "YOU PEOPLE have all you need to know." rolleyes


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She came off as a modern day Marie Antoinette. I don't fault her so much, but she should have been prepared better for the interview.

I thought it was curious that she said the tax returns would show how generous Romney is as he's donated 10% of earnings to the Mormon Church and other charities. This would be all the more reason he should release them. The excuse that the Democrats would only twist the returns and attack them seems very hollow.

One thing I agree with Mitt is his indifference to the puffed up outrage over the opening day Olympic uniforms being made in China. Maybe it's because when he ran the 2002 winter games, the uniforms were made in Burma, but I commend him for being candid on the issue and not rushing to wave the flag.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: klydon1] #656199
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
[quote=klydon1]And his wife was just on tv saying "YOU PEOPLE have all you need to know." rolleyes


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She came off as a modern day Marie Antoinette. I don't fault her so much, but she should have been prepared better for the interview.



Well, in the inimitable words of Lina Lamont:

"If we bring a little joy into your humdrum lives we feel as though our hard work ain't been in vain for nothing."


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #657592
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Today Mr. Romney takes his one-man Offend the World Tour to Israel. Stand by.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: klydon1] #657600
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Today Mr. Romney takes his one-man Offend the World Tour to Israel. Stand by.



I can't help but think of: "Holiday Roooooooooooad, Holiday road." Cracks me up.

lol lol




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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #657608
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Originally Posted By: klydon1
Today Mr. Romney takes his one-man Offend the World Tour to Israel. Stand by.



I can't help but think of: "Holiday Roooooooooooad, Holiday road." Cracks me up.

lol lol




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Yes. Romney will probbaly ask to visit the Wally Wall.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #657718
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Dick Cheney: Picking Sarah Palin for VP Was 'A Mistake'
By Jonathan Karl | ABC OTUS News – 3 hrs ago.. .

Dick Cheney has some advice for Mitt Romney on choosing a running mate: Don't pick another Sarah Palin.

In his first interview since receiving a heart transplant in March, Cheney told ABC News, that John McCain's decision to pick Palin as his running mate in 2008 was "a mistake" - one that it is important from Romney not to repeat.

Cheney would not comment on what he told Romney and Myers, but he was harsh in his assessment of McCain's decision to pick Palin.

"That one," Cheney said, "I don't think was well handled."

"The test to get on that small list has to be, 'Is this person capable of being president of the United States?'" Cheney believes Sarah Palin failed that test.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #657719
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"The test to get on that small list has to be, 'Is this person capable of being president of the United States?'" Cheney believes Sarah Palin failed that test.


Like Cheney was (capable of being president). lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #657724
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Like it was McCain's decision! rolleyes She was foisted on him, and my understanding is that it was against his very strong objections.

I've always wondered what our history might have been if McCain had won the Republican nomination instead of W.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #657730
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Like it was McCain's decision! rolleyes She was foisted on him, and my understanding is that it was against his very strong objections.

I've always wondered what our history might have been if McCain had won the Republican nomination instead of W.


We would not have had foreign policy dictated by Cheney and Rumsfeld, and we would not have gone to war looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #657738
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Given that Bush wouldn't have been in the White House, I often wonder if there would have been a September 11th. I don't mean that against President Bush, but I do believe that some of that was personal against his family, especially the first President Bush.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #657785
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I watched John Stossel on Fox yesterday (he came over years ago from ABC). He interviewed Art Cardin who is a financial expert. Art's theme was that outsourcing of jobs is a good thing and Stossel agreed with him.

Now, I wonder if that segment would have aired if Mitt Romney was not accused of outsourcing jobs as CEO of Bain Capital?

Stossel also interviewed Senator Barosso (R) of Wyoming about how the (get this) EPA was killing people. Barosso figures that people who are unemployed are subject to high blood pressure, strokes, etc. and are unemployed, in part, because of EPA regulations.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #657786
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We were happy enough to outsource our jobs for years when it was in dirty, smelly manufacturing. Now that we are outsourcing white collar customer service, IT, legal and even medical jobs, we're all in an uproar.

While jobs may continue to disappear overseas, the US is not issuing work visas as they once were. My husband's company has numerous workers from India at his company. If they go home to visit, they will not be able to come back. Also, if they are let go and sent back, a replacement from India will not be allowed in. They recently were able to bring someone over because they have a data center in Europe, so someone was sent originally from India working in Europe and was then allowed to work here. Not sure how long until that loophole is closed.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #657792
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Originally Posted By: olivant
I watched John Stossel on Fox yesterday (he came over years ago from ABC). He interviewed Art Cardin who is a financial expert. Art's theme was that outsourcing of jobs is a good thing and Stossel agreed with him.

Now, I wonder if that segment would have aired if Mitt Romney was not accused of outsourcing jobs as CEO of Bain Capital?

Stossel also interviewed Senator Barosso (R) of Wyoming about how the (get this) EPA was killing people. Barosso figures that people who are unemployed are subject to high blood pressure, strokes, etc. and are unemployed, in part, because of EPA regulations.


confused lol

You cant even make this stuff up its so outlandish.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #657811
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Given that Bush wouldn't have been in the White House, I often wonder if there would have been a September 11th. I don't mean that against President Bush, but I do believe that some of that was personal against his family, especially the first President Bush.


Why do you believe that? Bush Senior wasn't president anymore when Al Qaida started its attacks in 1993.

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Very true, but the first war in Iraq was, and it was a devastating blow to the Middle Eastern countries. I always thought it was a mistake for that administration to have left Saddam in power and often wonder how much of the attacks were personal. Just a "what if", certainly not trying to assign blame or point fingers. It's one of those, where would we be today IF....

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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Like it was McCain's decision! rolleyes She was foisted on him, and my understanding is that it was against his very strong objections.

I've always wondered what our history might have been if McCain had won the Republican nomination instead of W.


The only insider account of the Palin decision I know of is the book and later the HBO movie "Game Change," and it it McCain is seen as choosing her because she was his best shot to win the election. I am sure he never gave much thought to the possibility he would die in office, just cause he's John McCain (See also George H.W. Bush and his Veep pick) .

I think McCain would have made a better president than Bush because he is naturally curious and no doubt would have seen the famous August Al Queada memo about using airplanes to attack buildings. I also think he had a more "human" quality, and probably would have gone to the Katrina victims sooner.

As for the economy, he may not have cut taxes the way Bush did, but I think the crisis of 2008 was going to happen no matter who was in the white house. Everyone was making way too much money on the housing bubble.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #657851
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Originally Posted By: olivant
I watched John Stossel on Fox yesterday (he came over years ago from ABC). He interviewed Art Cardin who is a financial expert. Art's theme was that outsourcing of jobs is a good thing and Stossel agreed with him.

Now, I wonder if that segment would have aired if Mitt Romney was not accused of outsourcing jobs as CEO of Bain Capital?

Stossel also interviewed Senator Barosso (R) of Wyoming about how the (get this) EPA was killing people. Barosso figures that people who are unemployed are subject to high blood pressure, strokes, etc. and are unemployed, in part, because of EPA regulations.


I often wonder how these stories are reported with a straight face.

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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Very true, but the first war in Iraq was, and it was a devastating blow to the Middle Eastern countries. I always thought it was a mistake for that administration to have left Saddam in power and often wonder how much of the attacks were personal. Just a "what if", certainly not trying to assign blame or point fingers. It's one of those, where would we be today IF....


If McCain won the Republican nomination in 2000, I don't know if he'd have beaten Gore, who actually received more votes than W. I thought that while McCain may have made a better president than Bush, I think Bush was a much better and more effective campaigner than McCain.

Similarly I've always thought that Bob Dole would have been an effective cief executive, but he had electability problems. I think Dole was designed more like a prime minister than a president.

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Very true, but the first war in Iraq was, and it was a devastating blow to the Middle Eastern countries. I always thought it was a mistake for that administration to have left Saddam in power and often wonder how much of the attacks were personal. Just a "what if", certainly not trying to assign blame or point fingers. It's one of those, where would we be today IF....


What does Saddam have to do with Al-Qaida?
9/11 had nothing to do with that war. The rise of Al Qaida had nothing to do with that war.
They just saw the US as the ultimate evil. They didn't care who was in the White House. Remember, the 1st attack of the WTC was when Clinton was in office.

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Fox just illustrated an electoral college map that shows states for Obama or leaning Obama with 280 votes and states for Romney or leaning Romney at 182 votes.


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It is definitely Obama's election to lose right now. Romney will have to sweep the entire South, and take either two of the upper Midwest/Rust Belt states or get one of those and win Colorado or Nevada in order to get to 270. Possible but likely? We'll see.


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Klyd, I agree that 2008 was going to happen, thanks to banks with purses that were too wide open. BUT if we hadn't spent so many trillions on a ridiculous fight, would our economy truly have been AS devastated?


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Figure this one out. The following are headlines from the Fox News website. The first one is the lead story and the second one is about one inch below the first one:

"With unemployment rate rising from 8.2 percent to 8.3 percent in July, Republicans amp up criticism of President Obama's stewardship of the economy."

"Stocks Leap as U.S. Job Growth Heats Up"

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