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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #647931
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Did he edit the charts in any way? If not, he can keep it posted. But he must stop claims that some other guy has been making those charts. smile maybe i will open a facebook account.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #647933
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
Gambino Crime Family 1985

x - Death was a homicide
p - Committee of members who briefly ran the Family in 1986 when Gotti was incarcerated. Angelo Ruggiero (1940-1989) was included in this group
¤ - Captains who constituted the "Manhattan faction", or "Dellacroce faction" within the Family

Former bosses
Salvatore "Tata" D´Aquila (1877-1928x)
Alfredo "Al Mineo" Manfredi (1880-1930x)
Francesco "don Cheech" Scalise (1893-1957x)
Vincent Mangano (1888-1951x)
Albert Anastasia (1903-1957x)
Carlo Gambino (1902-1976)

Boss
"Big" Paul Castellano (1912-1985x) (under indictment at the time)

Underboss
Aniello "Neil" Dellacroce (1914-1985) (under indictment at the time)

Consigliere
Joesph N. Gallo (1912-1995) Indicted 1987, imprisoned 1988, retired

Captains
Thomas Bilotti (1940-1985x) Briefly served as underboss

John Gotti Sr (¤)(1940-2002) Became boss after the Castellano killing

Joseph "Piney" Armone (p)(1917-1992) Became underboss in 1986 (after the DeCicco killing), Indicted 1987, imprisoned 1988, retired

Frankie "Locs" Locascio (1933- ) Became acting underboss 1987, acting consigliere 1989

Ettore "Terry" Zappi (1904-1986) (In semi-retirement at the time)

Joseph Paterno (1923-1988)

Jimmy "Brown" Failla (1919-1999)

Joey "A" Arcuri (1913-2007)

Salvatore "Toddo" Aurello (1914-1988) (In semi-retirement at the time)

Anthony "The Baker" Napolitano Sr (1900-1992)

Joe "Z" Zingaro (1912-1995) (In prison at the time)

Patsy Conte (1925- ) Indicted 1987, freed

Nino Gaggi (1925-1988) (In prison at the time)

Anthony Scotto (1934- ) Demoted by Gotti 1986

Olympio "Lilo" Garofalo (1904-1986)

Anthony "Fat Andy" Ruggiano Sr (1927-1999) Indicted 1986, became a fugitive but apprehended and imprisoned 1987

Frankie "Dap" D´Apolito (1923-1998)

Joe "Butch" Corrao (1936-2001) Indicted 1987, Imprisoned 1989

Mario Traina (1915-1994)

Angelo Mascia (1909-1986)

Tommy Gambino (1929- )

Mike "Tally" Caiazza (¤)(1912?-1994?) Demoted by Dellacroce 1985

Nicholas Corozzo (¤)(1940- ) Demoted by Gotti in 1986 (?)

Acting captains
Robert "DB" DiBernardo (1937-1986x) (For Zappi) Promoted to capo by Gotti after the Castellano killing

Salvatore "Sammy The Bull" Gravano (p)(1945- ) (For Aurello) Became capo in 1985, acting consigliere in 1987, acting underboss in 1989, official underboss in 1990

Greg DePalma (1932-2009) (For Zingaro)

Joe "Buddy" LaForte Jr (¤)(1941?- ) (For Caiazza) Demoted by Dellacroce in 1985

Notes
I believe Frank DeCicco (1935-1986x) inherited Tommy Bilotti´s crew in Dec 1985. That´s why I didn´t put him on the list above.
I know it´s a little controversial putting Nick Corozzo on the list since it´s all over internet that Corozzo was promoted to capo in the early 1990´s.
However, in Dellacroce´s indictment file of 1985, the prosecutors claim Corozzo was one of three crew leaders who answered to Dellacroce. Later on, Corozzo is listed as a member of Peter Gotti´s crew (I read this somewhere) before being promoted in the early 1990´s.
I believe it is possible that Corozzo was demoted by Gotti in 1986 but later promoted to a capo rank again.
And also, information suggests that Tommy "Breeze" DeBrizzi (?-1988x) functioned as an acting capo sometime around 1986-1987. I´m not sure he served in this capacity already in 1985.
In any case, he was demoted by Gotti and put in Tommy Gambino´s crew before being killed in 1988.


All feedback is welcome.



One of the things I was never conscious of was just how old some of the caporegime are! Neil only controlled three crews? That doesn't seem like a ton of strength if a civil war were to have broken out in the Gambino Family.

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: dontommasino] #647966
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I think bosses in general, and Castellano in particular, feel more comfortable of having guys their own age around them.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #647976
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Did he edit the charts in any way? If not, he can keep it posted. But he must stop claims that some other guy has been making those charts. smile maybe i will open a facebook account.


He took the charts down. My work here is done. cool


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: carmela] #647999
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Did he edit the charts in any way? If not, he can keep it posted. But he must stop claims that some other guy has been making those charts. smile maybe i will open a facebook account.


He took the charts down. My work here is done. cool


Good job Carmela! grin
you showed us you got talent..


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #648017
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
I think bosses in general, and Castellano in particular, feel more comfortable of having guys their own age around them.


That makes sense, although if you believe the history then Castellano had isolated himself from all but a few of those people.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: carmela] #648048
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Did he edit the charts in any way? If not, he can keep it posted. But he must stop claims that some other guy has been making those charts. smile maybe i will open a facebook account.


He took the charts down. My work here is done. cool


Why am I not surprised???


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #648051
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Hello people, whats up? smile
i was away for a while, some problems at work etc. Nothing big..

And yes, i am aware they are using the charts. Cant do something about it, some websites did ask permission.
Daily mail UK: www.dailymail.co.uk/ also asked for permission, i havent checked the website. But i wasnt aware of the facebook thing, cant get access because i dont have an account.


Good to see you back Muk, i think my site was the first one to post up your charts. I randomly found this site posting them up as well http://mafiatoday.com/mafia-families-gangs-gangsters/mafia-family-charts-and-leadership-2011/

Hope your doing well bud.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #648059
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Hi Dapper! yeah i am doing fine, thanks smile

if you search on google for images, you will come across many websites that post those charts. On one side its good to have people using it, that means they like it. But on the other hand, some use it like if they created it. We will see what the future holds smile


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #648060
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Very true, good to hear your well.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #652036
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new mafia family charts for 2012??

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #652037
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might be the wrong place,but are there maps of the territory of the different groups in NY?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #652041
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new mafia family charts family members for 2012?if possible new york,philly,detroit,and chicago e buffalo.

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #652123
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I am working on new 2012 charts, but it wont happen this month or next. A bit later this summer.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #652125
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^^awesome, keep me posted so i can also update the charts on the site, hope all is well bud!


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #652360
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no answer?:(
there is no such thing for NY like this :

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #652363
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I suppose somebody could try doing it with the 5 families but the mob's presence in the greater NY area isn't so geographically defined nowadays. By that I mean all 5 families operate throughout the area to one degree or another. Some may have more presence in one area than another but it's not so compartmentalized.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: bladerkeks] #652518
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good!do you have other maps?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #655207
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I'd just like to say good work to all here, this site is great I have found somewhere with people who like to discuss organized crime and it's threat. Can't wait for the 2012 year charts, when will the genovese's get their new boss???

Also I would say the Lucchese crime family is more powerful than the Bonannos now days.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #655474
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good chart would be on the persico family tree. andy mush russo is his snakes cousin then all his kids are soldiers there second cousin is vic orena i would like to see who else is related by blood or marige. thats crazy how criminal that family is. orena kids are cousins to snakes kids and there trying to kill each other. then michael persico is married to thomas petrizzo daughter it goes on and on.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: pmac] #657572
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I found a the description of the succession of main mafia bosses in the province of Agrigento in Sicily (representatives of the province in the regional commission). I also inserted the dates of their staying in power, however some are missing as I didn’t manage to find them. Maybe somebody can fill up the missing parts.
It's from the book "Cosa muta" (Silent thing) by Alfonso Bugea.

????-????


Giuseppe Pitruzzella (forced to retire)

????-1981

Giuseppe Settecasi (murdered)
with
Gioacchino Pitruzzella (underboss)
Gerlando Caruana –> Paolo Campo –> Carmelo Colletti (consigliere)

1981-1983

Carmelo Colletti (murdered)
with
Gioacchino Pitruzzella (underboss; sentenced to 4 years; don’t know what happened later)
Antonio Ferro (underboss; died in freedom shortly after being released while indicted for murder)

1983-1991

Giuseppe Di Caro (murdered)

1991-1992

Ruling panel made composed of:

Salvatore Fragapane
Simone Capizzi (serving a life sentence)
Salvatore Di Ganci (recently released after serving 14 years)
Gioacchino Capodici (murdered)
Salvatore Gioia (murdered)

1992

Antonio Di Caro

1992-1995

Salvatore Fragapane (serving a life sentence)
with
Antonio Di Caro (underboss; murdered)
Cesare Lombardozzi (consigliere)

1995-????

Arturo Messina (died in prison while serving a life sentence)
Cesare Lombardozzi (in prison serving 13 years and 6 months)

????-1997

Leonardo Fragapane (died a natural death; don’t know if as a free man or in prison)

1997-????

Giuseppe Fanara (serving a life sentence)

2002-2010

Giuseppe Falsone (serving a life sentence)

2010-????

Gerlandino Messina (serving a life sentence)


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657573
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giuseppe falsone was made capoprovincia in 2002 after a mafia summit of all the bosses, underboss and some consiglieri of agrigento province and he was until his arrest in 2010

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: m2w] #657574
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But is Gerlandino Messina still considered the official representative of the province in the commission even though he is in prison or is he considered demoted?


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657575
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Giuseppe Falsone was together with Gerlandino Messina as boss of Agrigento Province. Gerlandino took over as godfather officially after Falsone's arrest in june, 2010. Gerlandino was fugitive for 11 years, captured in Oct, 2010. Both serving life sentences...as well as Gerlandino's older brother, Salvatore, serving life sentence as well.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dwalin2011] #657576
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
But is Gerlandino Messina still considered the official representative of the province in the commission even though he is in prison or is he considered demoted?


He is still the last named boss of Agrigento. He's under 41-bis though for life.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657579
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according to the rules salvatore fragapane should be still the representative of the province until his death, but being imprisoned they need an acting representative
of course its possible fragapane was demoted so falsone is still the official
gerlandino messina was the underboss capoprovincia

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: m2w] #657580
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Originally Posted By: m2w
according to the rules salvatore fragapane should be still the representative of the province until his death, but being imprisoned they need an acting representative
of course its possible fragapane was demoted so falsone is still the official
gerlandino messina was the underboss capoprovincia


You're wrong about this. Gerlandino was boss of that province upon his arrest, not underboss. I'm not going to go back and forth on this with you. Do more research.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657583
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where you get he was boss? i knew he was the underboss of the province
in that summit they elected falsone and according to letters seized from messina denaro it's clear falsone was the boss of the province
maybe they labeled gerlandino messina as boss because falsone was in prison at that time

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #657585
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i don't really know very much about the mafia down there. how many different families/clans are active?


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: m2w] #657586
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Originally Posted By: m2w

maybe they labeled gerlandino messina as boss because falsone was in prison at that time


And that's what I said in my earlier post in here. He is the last named godfather of agrigento as of today.

In addition, he was extremely close to Messina-Denaro as well... just as Falsone was. When he was captured, there were notes found on him with intention of going out to MMD.

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