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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #652590
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According to the transcripts of the Scoops sitdown, Lance is a Capo in South Jersey I believe


funny you mention that libations club, when i was in philly this past weekend my buddy's neighbors (two smoking hot lesbians) were saying they were heading down there.

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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: spmob
I never seen Sonny bartend there ever. Only place I seen him bartend...and it was only for a minute is his club Libations back in the day. But that was just cause they were busy. He owns that with another guy whose name i cant remember.
I think the the guys name is Johnny Fish, I used to work as a bouncer at Libations a while back.

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Hello all. First time poster, long time fan of mob history, specifically Philadelphia. Since you guys seem to know your stuff, I have a few questions about the Philly LCN that maybe you guys could shed some light on.

Always wondered how some of the local Philly guys avoid the radar. Guys that have been around awhile and by some accounts are made guys. Vince Iannece, Marty Curro, to name a few. Are they just background types that arent too involved?

Also, I've read some of the hierarchy lists that were posted here. Is tommy marrone still active? Stephen Sharkey? Frangpiani? Accardo? These guys all did small bits on the Merlino trial but you dont hear much about them these days.

Is Eric Esposito, Raymond Espositos son/relative?

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I dont think Tommy Marrone is active, after him and Shotsie were caught up with John Stanfa, years ago. Always heard he never wanted that bullshit with the Stanfa crew.

And with Snitch (frangpiani), here is a guy that is one Merlino's best friend, but I think for the for the most part is only active to a certain degree. Stolen goods. But I always have heard he was involved in the robbery of the brinks truck years ago, with Merlino. He is a pretty smart guy who is involved in alot of real estate.

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welcome to the boards tj, i must admit for such a small family philly generates tons of interest

i cant speak on any of those guys you mentioned as i am not familiar with them


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: Dapper_Don] #652631
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does anyone know david ritaltado from south phily

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #652636
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who takes over scoops crew now that he and fazzini are in the can?


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: Dapper_Don] #652640
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
who takes over scoops crew now that he and fazzini are in the can?


One Oldhead will come out of the woodwork to replace licata and he'll just have a bunch of wannabes to re[;ace Lou


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #652641
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Im pretty sure that Tommy Marrone died from a heart attack at a young age, never heard of any of those other guys but snitch. hes like horse shit and makes money in flips of real estate and blows all of it gambling

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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: Dapper_Don] #652644
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
who takes over scoops crew now that he and fazzini are in the can?


Nicky O is the only made guy left out there I believe.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: Dapper_Don] #652648
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
According to the transcripts of the Scoops sitdown, Lance is a Capo in South Jersey I believe


Albert's a captain?
Are these guys the Sopranos? 7 capos with 9 soldiers? lol

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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
According to the transcripts of the Scoops sitdown, Lance is a Capo in South Jersey I believe


Albert's a captain?
Are these guys the Sopranos? 7 capos with 9 soldiers? lol


If you didn't hang out with Joey Merlino in the 90's you have a better shot of staying under the radar. If you don't use social networking sites or any different media outlets to expose yourself. The guys that there aren't any pictures of them on the web is a good thing. Also probably not a good idea to talk to george anastshia when hes making money off of your crimes with his books, when your sitting in the can.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #652650
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
If you didn't hang out with Joey Merlino in the 90's you have a better shot of staying under the radar. If you don't use social networking sites or any different media outlets to expose yourself. The guys that there aren't any pictures of them on the web is a good thing. Also probably not a good idea to talk to george anastshia when hes making money off of your crimes with his books, when your sitting in the can.


So you're saying that there are key members out there that we don't know of?

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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci

Albert's a captain?
Are these guys the Sopranos? 7 capos with 9 soldiers? lol [/font]


The family has 3 captains, I believe..

Anthony Staino (Philadelphia/South Jersey)
Michael Lancelotti (Philadelphia/Atlantic City)
Joseph Licata (North Jersey)


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: IvyLeague] #652656
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
The family has 3 captains, I believe..

Anthony Staino (Philadelphia/South Jersey)
Michael Lancelotti (Philadelphia/Atlantic City)
Joseph Licata (North Jersey)


Woha...they're tiny indeed.

Kinda cute I'd say.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: LuanKuci] #652657
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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
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If you didn't hang out with Joey Merlino in the 90's you have a better shot of staying under the radar. If you don't use social networking sites or any different media outlets to expose yourself. The guys that there aren't any pictures of them on the web is a good thing. Also probably not a good idea to talk to george anastshia when hes making money off of your crimes with his books, when your sitting in the can.


So you're saying that there are key members out there that we don't know of?


I didn't say that there were, leave that up to speculation. One thing that pisses me off, and its not directed at anyone is some of the names on the charts. I mean I don't want to mention any names but some of these guys that have brothers,uncles,dads,nephews in the family are labeled Mobster.

It's guilt by association, some of these guys work 40 hours a week. They have the connections if they need them, depending on the family members influence within the family.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #652677
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #652679
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I know David. Use to hang with him in highschool. He was a funny back in the day. Hes boys with Victor Dipietro who was one of the guys who found Gongs body with Gongs brother.

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Just read that to. Thats going a little overboard.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #652681
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I think Nicky O would take over the NJ faction. Ligambi made guys in the last few years and there hasnt been a hit in a while. I think the rules have somewhat changed.

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I mean the prosecuters have to be kiddin with this request. We are really gona see if this judge is as fair as everybody is saying or if hes partial to the prosecution when he rules on this motion.

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I must admit Nicky O, i never heard of him until someone mentioned that his name was brought up in the stefanelli tapes

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Yea I agree thats some BS for a case like this. Sequestered Jury, marshals walking with them to lunch. Never thought they would do that.

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I think the prosecution wants to potray this case like its a really serious case with serious alegations so they can sway the public. In SP everybody is saying its total bs but in other parts of the state from wear they are gona get the jury im not so sure they think like that

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Originally Posted By: southphilly old head
In SP everybody is saying its total bs but in other parts of the state from wear they are gona get the jury im not so sure they think like that

That's why a change of venue doesn't work with the Feds. They'll end up stacking the jury with farmers from Western Pennsylvania. When these hillbillies see the money these guys are supposedly making, they're likely to convict just out of jealousy. It's an old trick. The Feds do it all the time. They make the jurors feel like they're the ones who've been shortchanged in life. It's hardly fair, but like I said, they do it all the time.


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Originally Posted By: spmob
I think Nicky O would take over the NJ faction. Ligambi made guys in the last few years and there hasnt been a hit in a while. I think the rules have somewhat changed.


from what we currently know is nicky o the only made guy left that is active out in jersey?


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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
According to the transcripts of the Scoops sitdown, Lance is a Capo in South Jersey I believe


Albert's a captain?
Are these guys the Sopranos? 7 capos with 9 soldiers? lol


Michael lancelotti

well to the sopranos credit all those capos had a number of associates under them and some even had a few made guys lol


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Yeah, the Sopranos = All chiefs, no Indians.


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staino is the south jersey skipper, not lance.

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I've never heard this before.

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/merlino_watch-38357814.html

A plot to kill Ligambi?

Dapper, I haven't seen any information on Beepsie Centorino ever since his stint as Acting Capo was done. But he's in the Licata crew, might still be around. If not, it's just Nicky O.

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