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Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #651011
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Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Chopper2012] #718266
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Why wouldn't DiFronzo be in the top 15. He certainly is more powerful than at least 4 of the New York Bosses. He's been a Top Boss for 27 years and has only had 1 rat in the Outfit. Pretty good record. Plus that he's very wealthy and avoided prison because of his strong political connections.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: elmwoodparker] #718269
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Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Why wouldn't DiFronzo be in the top 15. He certainly is more powerful than at least 4 of the New York Bosses. He's been a Top Boss for 27 years and has only had 1 rat in the Outfit. Pretty good record. Plus that he's very wealthy and avoided prison because of his strong political connections.


lool clearly a Chicago fan boy.

So he's more powerful then Cefalu, Crea or any of the top Genovese guys? Absolutely nowhere near, they're big players, DiFronzo isn't.

Genovese have about 10+ capo's that single handidly hold more weight then DiFronzo.

Frankie Cali is more important then pretty much the whole Chicago outfit.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: TommyGambino] #718270
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Why wouldn't DiFronzo be in the top 15. He certainly is more powerful than at least 4 of the New York Bosses. He's been a Top Boss for 27 years and has only had 1 rat in the Outfit. Pretty good record. Plus that he's very wealthy and avoided prison because of his strong political connections.


lool clearly a Chicago fan boy.

So he's more powerful then Cefalu, Crea or any of the top Genovese guys? Absolutely nowhere near, they're big players, DiFronzo isn't.

Genovese have about 10+ capo's that single handidly hold more weight then DiFronzo.

Frankie Cali is more important then pretty much the whole Chicago outfit.

You obviously don't know much, Tommy. The only boss with more is the top Genovese guy and MAYBE Cefalu. That's it. Difronzo is worth over 30 million dollars, boss, construction companies, grocery stores, food lines, the list goes on.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: NickyEyes1] #718274
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i dont think i would put any american mafia boss in the same list with the likes of chapo guzman and members of the camorra and yakuza.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Strax] #718275
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you right big time scorcese EL motherfucker CHAPO Guzman is a straight killer and damn near billionaire if not more all fron drug proceeds


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
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Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Strax] #718276
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Speaking about the Russian matter, I doubt Mogilevich holds the power. He is big and such, but in my opinion such guys like Sergey "Mikhas" Mikhailov hold a lot more bigger influence.


Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Joerusso] #718281
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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
you right big time scorcese EL motherfucker CHAPO Guzman is a straight killer and damn near billionaire if not more all fron drug proceeds


Its not just the money, its the effect that his business has internationally aswell as the amount of manpower he commands.

You cant really put a guy whos into labor rackets in new york or chicago on his level nevermind a list off the internet.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Strax] #718333
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Here's another list from that site about the top 10 most evil American mobsters according to them - http://listverse.com/2011/09/01/top-10-nefarious-american-mobsters/

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Strax] #718337
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he is the defention of and prrof of contolliing with an iron fist ...he literally took out a entire cartel with killing so much the cartel was so frustrated discumbobulated that they was around with their heads cut off killed an innocent man and one of their main shooters at the same time and then the man power and respect h demands is like more then the mexican army and federal government together EL cHAPO def is a top 5 nevermind 15


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: TommyGambino] #718351
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Tommy Gambino, Like NickyEyes1 said above me, You obviously don't know much and are one of those way exaggerating New York Fan boys.

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Why is difronzo on that list? Difronzo doesnt even have the makings of a varsity athelete!

That list should be 1-15 russian, columbians , or mexicans.

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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
he is the defention of and prrof of contolliing with an iron fist ...he literally took out a entire cartel with killing so much the cartel was so frustrated discumbobulated that they was around with their heads cut off killed an innocent man and one of their main shooters at the same time and then the man power and respect h demands is like more then the mexican army and federal government together EL cHAPO def is a top 5 nevermind 15


exactly, the list is bullshit because it didn't even include dawood ibrahim(d company) or dudus coke (leader of the jamaican shower posse).

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: NickyEyes1] #718361
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
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Why wouldn't DiFronzo be in the top 15. He certainly is more powerful than at least 4 of the New York Bosses. He's been a Top Boss for 27 years and has only had 1 rat in the Outfit. Pretty good record. Plus that he's very wealthy and avoided prison because of his strong political connections.


lool clearly a Chicago fan boy.

So he's more powerful then Cefalu, Crea or any of the top Genovese guys? Absolutely nowhere near, they're big players, DiFronzo isn't.

Genovese have about 10+ capo's that single handidly hold more weight then DiFronzo.

Frankie Cali is more important then pretty much the whole Chicago outfit.

You obviously don't know much, Tommy. The only boss with more is the top Genovese guy and MAYBE Cefalu. That's it. Difronzo is worth over 30 million dollars, boss, construction companies, grocery stores, food lines, the list goes on.


Says the official bb loanshark... rolleyes lol

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Skinny] #718364
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Skinny, I believe DiFronzo received his varsity letter in basket weaving. He made all conference and all state in that sport.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Strax] #718367
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I don't think any American should be on the list really.

Say what you want about DiFronzo, but he's more than likely going to die a free man. Which is a pretty rare thing for a boss nowadays.


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difronzo is only a free man bc hes a rat.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Skinny] #718372
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Why wouldn't DiFronzo be in the top 15. He certainly is more powerful than at least 4 of the New York Bosses. He's been a Top Boss for 27 years and has only had 1 rat in the Outfit. Pretty good record. Plus that he's very wealthy and avoided prison because of his strong political connections.


lool clearly a Chicago fan boy.

So he's more powerful then Cefalu, Crea or any of the top Genovese guys? Absolutely nowhere near, they're big players, DiFronzo isn't.

Genovese have about 10+ capo's that single handidly hold more weight then DiFronzo.

Frankie Cali is more important then pretty much the whole Chicago outfit.

You obviously don't know much, Tommy. The only boss with more is the top Genovese guy and MAYBE Cefalu. That's it. Difronzo is worth over 30 million dollars, boss, construction companies, grocery stores, food lines, the list goes on.


Says the official bb loanshark... rolleyes lol

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Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Strax] #718375
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Yeah nicky send me 20k thru western union. ill pay ur juice!

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20% interest!

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Strax] #718377
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Of coarse nicky ill pay you back

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Skinny] #718380
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You should know about rats being from New York.

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: Skinny] #718389
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Originally Posted By: Skinny
difronzo is only a free man bc hes a rat.


Just like Neil Dellacroce. lol

Re: Top 15 Crime Bosses and Drug Lords in 2012 [Re: IvyLeague] #719422
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I dont know how italian american mafia is ranked in this since that chart of the ten top mafias in the world placed the five families as number ten...


It just shows that such lists are not to be taken too seriously.
Semion Mogilevich is someone to be taken seriously but the rest on the list is crap.

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I dont know how italian american mafia is ranked in this since that chart of the ten top mafias in the world placed the five families as number ten...


It just shows that such lists are not to be taken too seriously.
Semion Mogilevich is someone to be taken seriously but the rest on the list is crap.


Rest of the list is crap? El Chapo,Matteo Messina Denaro...


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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
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Why wouldn't DiFronzo be in the top 15. He certainly is more powerful than at least 4 of the New York Bosses. He's been a Top Boss for 27 years and has only had 1 rat in the Outfit. Pretty good record. Plus that he's very wealthy and avoided prison because of his strong political connections.


lool clearly a Chicago fan boy.

So he's more powerful then Cefalu, Crea or any of the top Genovese guys? Absolutely nowhere near, they're big players, DiFronzo isn't.

Genovese have about 10+ capo's that single handidly hold more weight then DiFronzo.

Frankie Cali is more important then pretty much the whole Chicago outfit.

You obviously don't know much, Tommy. The only boss with more is the top Genovese guy and MAYBE Cefalu. That's it. Difronzo is worth over 30 million dollars, boss, construction companies, grocery stores, food lines, the list goes on.


I know how rich diFRONZO is but does that make him more respected? Not a chance, pretty much all of that has come from legit busineses. You question if cefaou holds more weight then difronzo? LOL cefalu has nearly 200 soldiers under him, difronxo is in charge of a washed up family eho have less soldiers then genovese jersey family

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He's rich and respected. He has more guys under him than the 28 made men you the think he has. You're last comment makes no sense.

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Between the 6 main westside NJ crews, there are about 50 soldiers.

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He's rich and respected. He has more guys under him than the 28 made men you the think he has. You're last comment makes no sense.


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Look im not saying the charts are right. They are not. Going off that chart ive seen for chicago (it was blue had a ton of little boxes and pictures), i think 40 made guys sounds reasonable to me. Ive seen ivys charts. Every single one ive seen are wrong. The administration for every chart he has for philly, NJ, 5 families is wrong. Hes missing captains, soldiers, etc. Not that fbi has it wrong, its just the FBI doesnt release yearly charts and status updates, he just goes on whatever he can find, and hes done a good job. But it should be looked at as raw data not fact. Sorry for the rude comment ive edited it out

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