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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #647548
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DD, you're right about Prager. Of all the radio talk show hosts, he's most frequently a commnetator on Fox, Meagan Kelly, especially. He reminds me alot of Michael Reagan both physically and viewswise.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: IvyLeague] #647550
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don


Your right Medved and co. are much better than Limbaugh, but not by much. I am a liberal but not a super one as my previous comment might suggest. Moderately Liberal and Fiscally Conservative is just right. But in reality, I support policy positions that are supported by non-partisan data which makes sense regardless of partisan label.

I am not too familiar with Dennis Prager or Medved, but from a quick google search for Prager he seems to be a conservative that touts his political and social views from Judeo-Christian values. I respect that, I am just not that big on religion as a guiding principle for my policy positions thats all.


Both Medved and Prager are Jewish, as well as proponents of the Judeo-Christian influence in America. The difference is, they tend to frame their arguments and thinking in more intelligent and convincing ways than many of the others, who are just talking heads. Both Medved and Prager have a lot of liberal listeners, though obviously they don't always agree with them.


Glad to hear they arent talking heads like Rush. Look I have nothing against these views. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion on everything. I just have a problem with people (like Rush) when they start attacking others personally, racially, etc just because they are from the opposite side of the aisle.

As far as religious influence, one of my personal goals is to work toward becoming a better Catholic (going to mass, etc) so I have no qualms about religion.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #647596
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
As far as religious influence, one of my personal goals is to work toward becoming a better Catholic (going to mass, etc) so I have no qualms about religion.

Glad to hear it, Dap. If you find yourself in Throggs Neck, stop by Saint Benedict's smile.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: IvyLeague] #647610
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
And as for Edwards, is it really a mystery why somebody wouldn't like that guy? He's the poster boy for the slimy, corrupt lawyer/politician if there ever was one. But, hey, he's a liberal Democrat so he's not going to get too much criticism on this board. rolleyes


Yes, because all of us think alike. We love to sing the praises of a pig who turned his back on his wife and the mother of his children when she was dying. Also, we love the fact that he's dragging her name through the mud, and her children are standing by him because, realistically, he's all they have left in the world. Yum. What a catch he is for the next Mrs. Edwards. rolleyes


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #647611
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I'm a liberal Democrat, and I wish Edwards was eligible for the death penalty.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #647618
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Originally Posted By: olivant
DD, you're right about Prager. Of all the radio talk show hosts, he's most frequently a commnetator on Fox, Meagan Kelly, especially. He reminds me alot of Michael Reagan both physically and viewswise.


My mistake. I meant Mike Gallagher


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #647623
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
We evolve, and so should the law.


Are you telling this to the same group that prefers creationism to evolution being taught in the schools?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Don Marco] #647664
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Originally Posted By: Don Marco


Are you telling this to the same group that prefers creationism to evolution being taught in the schools?


You ever see moms at a public place, maybe restaurants or theatres, and their kid(s) goes absolutely bratty & spoiled so mom drags them out by the ear?

Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #647682
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
As far as religious influence, one of my personal goals is to work toward becoming a better Catholic (going to mass, etc) so I have no qualms about religion.

Glad to hear it, Dap. If you find yourself in Throggs Neck, stop by Saint Benedict's smile.


What a coincidence, I used to go to Saint Benedict's until about the age of 12 before I moved to another part of the Bronx. It is a beautiful church.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Don Marco] #647737
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Originally Posted By: Don Marco
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
We evolve, and so should the law.


Are you telling this to the same group that prefers creationism to evolution being taught in the schools?


That's the irony of the whole issue. Evolving? It shows the exact opposite: The decline of our society. I mean, the fact that we're even talking about gay marriage shows just how bad things have gotten. And the real kicker is people thinking it's a good thing. That it's progress. Truly, good has become evil and evil good. Black is now white, and white is now black.

Well, I expect this from the secular crowd who have eschewed religion. They don't know any better. That's the trap of ignorance. You don't know what you don't know. But to see self-professed religious people in favor of gay marriage is really disappointing. I mean, this isn't one of those grey issues that can be left to open interpretation. The scriptures are pretty dang clear. So all I see is people wanting their religion/church to change with the times. And, as Samuel Callan said, the church that weds itself to the culture of the day becomes a widow with each succeeding age.

As for the other topic, while I don't necessarily think creationism should be taught in schools, I don't think evolution should be taught as fact in schools either. It's like the "theory" in "theory of evolution" has somehow been forgotten and now people just take it as proven fact we descended from apes.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #647738
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I'm a liberal Democrat, and I wish Edwards was eligible for the death penalty.


If you're a liberal Democrat you truly belong in the Catholic Church.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #647739
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I like Prager and Hewitt. I even buy their sponsors' products when I can. We need voices like theirs on the air.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #647755
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
What a coincidence, I used to go to Saint Benedict's until about the age of 12 before I moved to another part of the Bronx. It is a beautiful church.

Yes, it is.

We're geographically closer to Saint Frances de Chantal, but choose to attend Mass at Saint Benedict's because it's older and just seems to be a bit more traditional. Plus, all three of my kids attended grade school at St. Benedict's.

Did you go to school there, Dapper? I only ask because my oldest daughter is just about your age (She's 24 now), and it's possible that the two of you might have crossed paths. She was enrolled at St. Benedict's from 1993-2002.

But in the words of Tony Montana, She is not for you! tongue lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #647852
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
What a coincidence, I used to go to Saint Benedict's until about the age of 12 before I moved to another part of the Bronx. It is a beautiful church.

Yes, it is.

We're geographically closer to Saint Frances de Chantal, but choose to attend Mass at Saint Benedict's because it's older and just seems to be a bit more traditional. Plus, all three of my kids attended grade school at St. Benedict's.

Did you go to school there, Dapper? I only ask because my oldest daughter is just about your age (She's 24 now), and it's possible that the two of you might have crossed paths. She was enrolled at St. Benedict's from 1993-2002.

But in the words of Tony Montana, She is not for you! tongue lol


Nope, I went to public schools my entire life until I went off to college.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Dapper_Don] #648491
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Looks like Florida is going to be a tight one. Quinnipiac has Romney with a 6 point edge right now.

Mitt Romney Leads Obama In Florida, Quinnipiac Poll Shows

The Huffington Post | By Luke Johnson

Mitt Romney has broken into a slight lead in Florida over President Barack Obama, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.

The former Massachusetts governor leads Obama by a 47-41 margin. A May 3 survey showed the two tied at 44-43, and Obama led by a 49-42 margin in a March 28 poll. Other recent polls had shown the two tied or Obama with a slight lead.

Obama won Florida in 2008 by 2.8 percent of the vote. The state swung Republican in 2010, with Republicans winning all statewide offices and picking up four U.S. House seats. Democrats are hoping for a 2008-like turnout to put Obama over the top in the perennial swing state.

Romney leads with independent voters by a 44-36 margin, with men by a 50-37 margin and with whites by a 56-33 margin, according to the poll. Women favor Obama by a 45-44 edge, but blacks favor him by an 85-3 margin and Hispanics by a slim 42-40 edge.

While Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) has been touted as a vice-presidential candidate to help put Florida squarely in the GOP column, Romney's lead only increased to 49-41 when Rubio's name was added to the poll.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #648497
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To paraphrase Hedley Lamarr in Blazing Saddles: "You conservatives and Republicans on the Board, rest your sphincters. Arizona says President Obama is a citizen." Consequently, he can be on the Arizona presidential ballot.

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...-a-citizen?lite

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #648817
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Few pundits express themselves with succinct clarity as George Will. On "This Week" he referred to Donald Trump as a "bloviating ignoramus," and as "redundant proof that in Americaif your net worth is high, you can have a very low IQ, and still intrude in politics."

Essentially he was criticizing Romney's decision to appear with Trump in a Nevada event this week as politically stupid.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #649255
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Both of them suck!


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Don Smitty] #649265
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Yes, but Trump has the worst hair.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #650014
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Washington (CNN) - With just over five months to go until the November election, a new CNN Electoral Map indicates a tight battle between President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney for the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House. According to the CNN map unveiled Monday, the president leads Romney in 19 states and the District of Columbia, which if he carried those in the general election would give him 247 electoral votes. Romney, the unofficial GOP presidential nominee pending the party's convention, leads in 24 states, which would give him 206 electoral votes.

The map currently indicates that seven states are true toss-ups. Those states are Colorado (9 electoral votes), Florida (29), Iowa (6), Nevada (6), New Hampshire (4), Ohio (18) and Virginia (13). Eighty-five electoral votes are up for grabs in those seven states. Four states currently lean towards Obama: Michigan (16), New Mexico (5), Pennsylvania (20) and Wisconsin (10). Four states currently lean towards Romney: Arizona (11), Indiana (11), Missouri (10), and North Carolina (15).


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #650038
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im going to ignore all these polls until around Sept/Oct...


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #651114
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Coming from Republicans, this is kind of startling:

As a conservative Republican, Lindsey Graham has never had a problem promising not to raise taxes. Like almost every other
Republican member of Congress, during his last re-election campaign, he signed the anti-tax pledge put forth by Grover Norquist's group Americans for Tax Reform.

But now Graham says the debt crisis is so severe that the tax pledge — which says no tax loopholes can be eliminated unless every dollar raised by closing loopholes goes to tax cuts -- has got to go.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #651127
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I thought that pledge was pretty silly when they did it for publicity reasons. Similarly when the new Congress in 2010 began their session by taking turns reading a selectively edited version of the Constitution, and pledging that any introduced legislation must have references to Constitutional provisions supporting the proposed measure.

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Apparently Mitt Romney really liked the sandwich computer at Wawa -- the same touch-screen ordering system I've been using for years at Wawa ... because I don't have a private chef.

Quote:
"You press a little touchtone key pad… You touch this, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier, and there's your sandwich," Romney said. "It's amazing!"


There's our next president. rolleyes



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Originally Posted By: J Geoff

Apparently Mitt Romney really liked the sandwich computer at Wawa -- the same touch-screen ordering system I've been using for years at Wawa ... because I don't have a private chef.

Quote:
"You press a little touchtone key pad… You touch this, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier, and there's your sandwich," Romney said. "It's amazing!"


There's our next president. rolleyes


lol Did you see the clip of him trying to describe the "chocolate goodie" thing....aka donut? lol Cut poor Mitt some slack though. He's probably distracted while he is having his car elevator installed in his home. lol


http://www.mediaite.com/online/mitt-romney-apparently-doesnt-know-what-a-donut-is/


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Politicians are hypocrites who will say and do anything to get or stay elected. That said it is sadly humorous to see the President create an effective change in law thru " prosecutorial discretion" when previously he had said he could not legally do that while Romney, who just a few months back was talking smack about how he would veto the Dream Act, suddenly can't be bothered to take a definitive stand against the President's administrative implementation of much of the substance of the Dream Act.

Romney's weak response to something which is toxic to the much of the conservative base is not something which will get those hardliner voters out-unless they are willing to hold their nose just to vote against the President. Some will, but others are making noises that they may not.

http://www.examiner.com/article/predicti...ion-enforcement

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/303036/romney-screws-pooch-immigration-mark-krikorian

The other thing is that the President's move pulled the carpet out from under Senator Rubio's proposed legislation and may have reduced if not eliminated Rubio's value to Romney as a running mate. I don't think Rubio endeared himself to the base by saying he would have entered the country illegally if he felt it necessary.

I wish I could say it's my insight but numerous people have pointed out how passing strange it is that in some respects both parties have switched their usual tactics/talking points this year. The Democrats would love to talk about "social issues" and national security while the Republicans would like to stay focused on the economy.


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Mitt Romney: Marco Rubio Being 'Thoroughly Vetted' For Vice President

By STEVE PEOPLES and KASIE HUNT, The Huffington Post

HOLLAND, Mich. — Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Tuesday that his campaign is "thoroughly vetting" Marco Rubio as it searches for a running mate despite reports that the Florida senator is not being considered.

ABC News and The Washington Post cited unnamed advisers in reporting that Rubio, R-Fla., wasn't on the short list for the No. 2 spot on the GOP ticket.

"I can't imagine who such people are, but I can tell you this: They know nothing about the vice presidential selection or evaluation process," Romney told reporters Tuesday evening outside a Michigan ice cream shop. "The story was entirely false. Marco Rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process."

Earlier in the day, Romney had refused to comment on reports that Rubio, a rising star in Republican politics, wasn't under consideration as a potential running mate.

The presumptive GOP nominee initially told Fox News only that "a number of people are being vetted" but that only two people – he and a senior adviser – know who's on the list. He repeated that statement Tuesday evening but clarified Rubio's status as a potential vice presidential pick.

The statement was an unusual departure from the secrecy that has surrounded Romney's process in selecting a running mate. But it speaks, in part, to Rubio's political influence among the Republican base and Hispanic voters.

Two Romney representatives would not say if or when Rubio had submitted paperwork for the vetting process.

The unanswered question was among several that lingered Tuesday as Romney's campaign sought to counter media reports suggesting that Romney had bypassed one of the most popular Hispanic leaders serving in elected office.

Less than a week ago, President Barack Obama won praise from Hispanic groups for announcing a plan allowing some young illegal immigrants to stay in the United States legally. Polls suggest that Hispanics overwhelmingly support Obama, but Romney and the GOP have been working to broaden their appeal among the growing demographic.

The vetting flap came on the day Rubio released a memoir and Romney's concluded a six-state bus tour. The Florida Democratic Party blasted a message to reporters titled: "Rubio fails preliminary review in Veepstakes."

Asked about the reports during an appearance on Fox News, Rubio also refused to weigh in.

"I'm not commenting on the vice presidential process," he said. "That's been basically what we've said the whole time because, out of respect for Gov. Romney, the last thing he needs is to have to be addressing questions about this because really the campaign's not about that."

Rubio's exclusion from Romney's short list would disappoint some conservative activists, but it would not come as a complete surprise. While he offers obvious political benefits as a Hispanic leader from the swing state of Florida, Romney advisers have consistently said that Romney would give preference to those candidates with the greatest experience and ability to lead the nation on Day One. It's a reflection both of Romney's philosophy and lessons from the selection of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin four years ago as the GOP running mate.

A former state lawmaker, Rubio, 41, has served in the Senate for less than two years. Romney did not address Rubio's credentials Tuesday.

Inexperience could work against other oft-mentioned candidates, including New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

A handful of more likely picks joined Romney on his bus tour in recent days as part of unofficial public tryouts for the No. 2 spot. Their interactions offered clues about who Romney might choose.

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty traveled on Romney's bus with him for two full days, on Friday in New Hampshire and through Saturday in Pennsylvania. He often warranted his own introduction, with a local official talking up his accomplishments as Minnesota governor before Pawlenty took the stage to introduce Romney.

When Pawlenty left the tour, it was to fly to New York to appear as a surrogate for Romney on ABC's "This Week."

On Sunday, Ohio Sen. Rob Portman and his wife, Jane, went along for the ride. By that time, though, Romney had been joined by a pack of family members – sons Craig and Matt and five grandchildren. That left Portman and his wife riding on a different bus from Romney's for part of the day.

Still, Romney's team trusted Portman to talk to the reporters who traveled with Romney. A Portman aide snapped BlackBerry photos as the senator did a background briefing.

Less visible was Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, whose role was limited to introducing Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus at an event at a factory in Ryan's hometown of Janesville. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, whose June 5 recall election victory was a big win for Republicans, introduced Romney and accompanied him on a tour through the factory.

Romney's Boston headquarters has been engaged for weeks in the secretive process of weighing the pros and cons of each potential pick.

With less than three months to go until Republican National Convention in August, the campaign has little time to waste as it meticulously prepares Romney to make one of his most important decisions. Advisers concede that Romney could make his pick earlier than right before the convention to help boost fundraising efforts.

Knowledge of the process has been limited to a few of Romney's highest-level aides. Information is on a "need-to-know" basis – and as far as those aides are concerned, there are few people inside the Boston headquarters who need to know, let alone reporters and other outsiders.

The process is so secret because it's so sensitive. A vice presidential vetting is possibly the most intense background check in politics. Everything is fair game: voting records and the political past, to be sure, but also personal issues.

"I think everyone should take a deep breath," Rubio said Tuesday. "Here's the one thing everyone should know: Gov. Romney's going to make a great choice. In that I'm confident."



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #652464
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I have a feeling Mitt just said that so the Tea Party and the few Hispanics who care about Rubio dont get pissed off at Mitt, Rubio prob isnt even being vetted.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #652472
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The latest presidential election poll results:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-habe...abs-126719.html


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #652543
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These polls are all over the map, and frankly I don't believe any of them. Bottom line here is if one or the other had this thing locked up it probably wouldn't get reported anyway because then the media would have to do something other than cover the "horse race."


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