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Re: Which Family was the most powerful....
[Re: Crazy_Joe_Gallo]
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05/04/12 11:53 PM
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Lucchese was ONE if the not the most powerful family in the 50's and 60's in The states.
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Re: Which Family was the most powerful....
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05/05/12 12:20 AM
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In NYC, The Genovese Family has traditionally been the largest in terms of numbers for most of that time period. They get my vote for most powerful.
IMO, the Gambino's had equal power during Carlo's reign, from the early 60's to the mid 70's.
Outside of NYC, Chicago is the only city to have anything that could rival the Genovese and Gambino borgata's.
I think any attempt to compare a non-NYC family with a NYC family is futile. Apples and Oranges.
Let the debate begin.
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Re: Which Family was the most powerful....
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05/07/12 01:50 AM
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"If anybody survives it will be the Genovese." - Anthony Accetturo, Lucchese LCN family Captain (1994)
"I have always considered the Genovese Family to be the most powerful LCN family in the United States." - Al D'Arco, Lucchese LCN family Acting Boss (1994)
"The Genovese family is the most sophisticated, cautious, secretive, and powerful Cosa Nostra family in the United States." - Phil Leonetti, Philadelphia LCN Underboss (1989)
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Which Family was the most powerful....
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05/07/12 01:59 AM
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Your location of Illinois may bring some bias eastsider, though I do agree with you. They did control all families west of the Mississippi and I think stronger control of unions vs. New York
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Re: Which Family was the most powerful....
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05/07/12 03:07 AM
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"Control" may be too strong a word. The Outfit had varying degrees of influence over the families west of Chicago. And one of the main reasons the Genovese family has always been considered the #1 family in the country was/is because of their control of labor unions and influence in legitimate industries. More so than any other family.
Agree, however it's the Chicago Outfit's role in politics and corruption, urban legend or real that makes me put a lot of weight behind it. Obviously the Genovese has always been #1, but it's typically the Gambinos that are compared to be the runner up, where I don't think that was always the case
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Re: Which Family was the most powerful....
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Late 90's - '02. Bonanno Family under Joe Massino. Begins the decline 2 years before Massino turns when high rankers suffer house arrests and minor convictions. While one can make an argument about the Gambinos from the 1960's through the 1980's, the Bonannos were never the top family. Agree, however it's the Chicago Outfit's role in politics and corruption, urban legend or real that makes me put a lot of weight behind it.
Obviously the Genovese has always been #1, but it's typically the Gambinos that are compared to be the runner up, where I don't think that was always the case. I'd say the corruption in New York and New Jersey (especially New Jersey) rivaled Chicago's back in the day. Frank Costello had as much clout as anybody in Chicago ever did.
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