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Re: Mafia's Future
[Re: EVL]
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03/26/12 11:41 AM
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short841
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It said that in boss of bosses book but can't exactly remember
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/26/12 11:43 AM
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yh but if the genovese are that picky in who becomes made etc like being on year probation and two people have to vouch then it will still have less peole cooperating in thirty forty years plus like i said they will be schooling the young how they were being schooled. anyway we'll see That's the thing, Short. Eventually, they won't be able to be as picky. Attrition not only thins out quantity, but also quality. After three or four generations in America, the hunger is gone. If you're raised by educated and professional Italian American parents, the odds of you becoming a wiseguy are quite slim. The time will eventually come when even the Genovese family will make a rat or two. And once that dam breaks, they'll be just like everyone else.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia's Future
[Re: EVL]
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03/26/12 12:09 PM
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short841
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Ahhh I see your point. In years to come they will employ any Italian American they can get?
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/26/12 12:13 PM
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pizzaboy
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Ahhh I see your point. In years to come they will employ any Italian American they can get? Exactly.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/26/12 12:17 PM
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short841
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When do you think that will be?
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/26/12 12:22 PM
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When do you think that will be? I think it's like Ivy and Ivan said: When the guys who were born around 1940 start passing away. It's true that the Genovese are the smartest, but they're also been very lucky. For whatever the reason, they've enjoyed longetivity. Not just in terms of their mob strength, but in the actual lengths of their lives. Some of these guys have lived beyond 90 years old. But no one lives forever.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/26/12 12:24 PM
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short841
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So still quite a while since they live longer and especially since people are going to live longer
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/26/12 12:32 PM
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short841
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Btw. I know it's really off topic but you know carmine Persicos pic in prison with a suit on. Why did he gt a pic of him with a suit on folding his arms. So random :L
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Mafia's Future
[Re: Nicholas]
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03/26/12 06:06 PM
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Is there a zero presence of Ndrengheta, Cosa Nostra, or Camorra guys in the United States, or do they cozy up with Italian-American wiseguys? No, there's some presence of the Cosa Nostra, 'Ndrangheta, and Camorra. But even the Cosa Nostra, which has the most of the Italian syndicates, doesn't have what it did during the "Pizza Connection" days. I can only think of a handful of cases involving these groups here in the U.S. in recent years. Obviously the presence is more evident up in Canada.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/26/12 09:41 PM
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Just like the Westies who went from a prominently Irish ethnic organization to an influx of Serbian members. That's not true at all. It might appear that way because Bosko Radonjich briefly led the group during the 1990s. However, it was still predominantly Irish-American. He just happened to be the most trusted most respected guy after Shannon lost the top spot, because Bosko had connections with Coonan (and the other guys) and some Gambino connects as well. As the Westies had before him
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/27/12 06:47 AM
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My opinion is that the italian mob are finished in the USA,because the battle ground is much bigger now..not only hispanics but also Albanians,Russians,Serbs etc.The same goes for Europe except Italy the Cammora,'Ndrangheta are still holding the market in their hands besides the growth of black gangs and they got networks in Germany,Albania,France,England and Balkan.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/27/12 07:06 AM
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My opinion is that the italian mob are finished in the USA,because the battle ground is much bigger now..not only hispanics but also Albanians,Russians,Serbs etc.The same goes for Europe except Italy the Cammora,'Ndrangheta are still holding the market in their hands besides the growth of black gangs and they got networks in Germany,Albania,France,England and Balkan. They are far away from finished,and serbs in US ? I live in Serbia i am from Serbia and all i can tell u is that out criminals mostly go to Spain or South African Republic and thats it never US,only maybe Russians can challange italians,but they will work together,together they can make more money.But i agree that Camorra, 'Ndrangheta and Sicilian Mafia are major players in Europe.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/27/12 08:31 AM
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Yes you are right about Spain and South Africa but im going to find the article that sad something about serbian gangs showin up in New York or Detriot i think and ill let you know!As for the Ital. mob in the US...i dont take gangsters that generate 2000 dollars in two weeks so serious,almost everyone that wants to do black market stuff can do that!
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Re: Mafia's Future
[Re: Strax]
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03/27/12 08:48 AM
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They are far away from finished,and serbs in US ? I live in Serbia i am from Serbia and all i can tell u is that out criminals mostly go to Spain or South African Republic and thats it never US,only maybe Russians can challange italians,but they will work together,together they can make more money.But i agree that Camorra, 'Ndrangheta and Sicilian Mafia are major players in Europe.
The Camorra, 'Ndrangheta and Sicilian Mafia also have strongholds here in the Netherlands, mostly due to the presence of Rotterdam, where a lot off the cocaine for the European market comes in. Then there´s the homegrown Dutch syndicates, the Chinese triads, Russians, Serbs etc. Of course, this being Holland, our ganster culture is a little bit different. For example, gangsters literally get shot while riding their bicycle . Here´s an example: [image] This guy was actually a feared hitman over here in Amsterdam, called Martin Hoogland, but even he enjoyed going out for some cycling . And then wound up being shotgunned to dead
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/27/12 10:24 AM
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They are far away from finished,and serbs in US ?
Not exactly Serbs, but apparently all the really big-time gangsters in Cleveland are Croatians. It used to be an American Cosa Nostra stronghold, so yeah the American Mafia being surpassed by Yugoslavs has happened in at least one city.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/27/12 07:09 PM
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My opinion is that the italian mob are finished in the USA,because the battle ground is much bigger now..not only hispanics but also Albanians,Russians,Serbs etc.The same goes for Europe except Italy the Cammora,'Ndrangheta are still holding the market in their hands besides the growth of black gangs and they got networks in Germany,Albania,France,England and Balkan. I can't quite tell if you're talking about the presence of the organized crime groups out of Italy being finished in the U.S. or the Italian-American mob simply being finished. The Italian-American mob is certainly a primarily domestic operation at this point. And it is finished in a lot of places. But certainly not in New York, and to a lesser extent, in other parts of the northeast or Chicago. As for the Italian syndicates, they obviously still have a large presence in western Europe, and to a lesser extent, Canada and Australia.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/27/12 07:43 PM
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Just out of curiosity, would someone in their mid 20s be too old to start up in LCN? Thinking of making a career change?... I was thinking the same thing.
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Re: Mafia's Future
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03/27/12 07:47 PM
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This guy was actually a feared hitman over here in Amsterdam, called Martin Hoogland, but even he enjoyed going out for some cycling . And then wound up being shotgunned to dead. He was an ex cop turned hitman for the Serbs, Jotsa Jocic in particular, and he had murdered Dutch godfather Klaas Bruinsma. He had it coming.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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