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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639078
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Does Romney like his grits regular or al dente?


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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Does Romney like his grits regular or al dente?


Maybe I should be thankful he didn't say this instead: "I like soupbeans! And cornbread! And incest! And going to school barefoot!" Dear lord, we've discovered Addidas decades ago. Maybe he learned a lesson from '08 when Mike Huckabee dinged him for hating to eat fried chicken skin as "southerners" do.*

If he goes to a black neighborhood, will he declare his affinity for them by declaring his love for watermelon?

*=Bullshit. I also refuse to watch NASCAR, aka Not All Southerners Care About Racing. (But I love pro wrestling, I'll admit that redneck stereotype.)

EDIT - Reading up the story behind that "Grits" video, Mittens said "Y'all." If you ever desire a foot up your ass, say that greeting to my face. Nobody around here in East TN says that except in Beverly Hillbillies reruns.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639085
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If Romney picks John Denver's "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" as his campaign song, I'm moving to Canada.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #639094
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
If Romney picks John Denver's "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" as his campaign song, I'm moving to Canada.


I understand that he's taking banjo lessons.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
If Romney picks John Denver's "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" as his campaign song, I'm moving to Canada.

Toronto is lovely this time of year! smile


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639188
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My irony meter committed suicide.

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"I'm not really a politician." - Mitt Romney


http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-pres...tician-20120309

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
If Romney picks John Denver's "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" as his campaign song, I'm moving to Canada.


Next up, he'll joke about making his audience squeal like a pig.

~Bright side: He wins the southern gay vote.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639291
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I have to admit that I was surprised by this.

Last night Anderson Cooper stated that the mantra of Romney et al that President Obama said that his stimulus proposal would keep unemployment no higher than or below 8% was false. He stated that several weeks prior to the President's inaugeration that a couple of the President-elect's advisors stated that the stimulus package that they were developing might keep unemployment at or below 8%.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #639295
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Originally Posted By: olivant
I have to admit that I was surprised by this.

Last night Anderson Cooper stated that the mantra of Romney et al that President Obama said that his stimulus proposal would keep unemployment no higher than or below 8% was false. He stated that several weeks prior to the President's inaugeration that a couple of the President-elect's advisors stated that the stimulus package that they were developing might keep unemployment at or below 8%.


this is true

until the obama admin was forced to cut deals on the stimulus with the GOP to get it passed and thus the stimulus was mostly tax writeoffs


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639366
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Reminds me of Romney recently claiming he never publicly proposed that Romneycare and it's Individual Mandate should be a model for Federal healthcare.

Except he did. In a 2009 Op-Ed.

http://www.therightscoop.com/2009-romney-op-ed-obama-should-use-my-individual-mandate-in-obamacare/

Thus continues the Romney Modus operandi: Everything is about the short term. There is no long game.


Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639506
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Well, isn't this interesting . It could be wishful thinking on some people's parts but it could describe something changing. We shall see. The center, which is where the election will be decided, is not holding.

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Centrist Women Tell of Disenchantment With Republicans
As baby showers go, the party Mary Russell attended to celebrate her niece’s first child was sweet, with about a dozen women offering congratulations over ice cream and cake.

But somewhere between the baby name game and the gifts, what had been light conversation took a sharp turn toward the personal and political — specifically, the battle over access to birth control and other women’s health issues that have sprung to life on the Republican campaign trail in recent weeks.

“We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.

Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.

Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. “I didn’t realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations,” Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: “If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them. Women’s reproduction is our own business.”

In Iowa, one of the crucial battlegrounds in the coming presidential election, and in other states, dozens of interviews in recent weeks have found that moderate Republican and independent women — one of the most important electoral swing groups — are disenchanted by the Republican focus on social issues like contraception and abortion in an election that, until recently, had been mostly dominated by the economy.

And in what appears to be an abrupt shift, some Republican-leaning women like Ms. Russell said they might switch sides and vote for Mr. Obama — if they turn out to vote at all....


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Lilo] #639519
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Very telling article, Lilo. It would hold especially true if that lunatic Santorum ever got the nod (not that he really has a chance). If that asshole got his way, women would be fitted for chastity belts.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639522
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Unless it's his wife that needs medication that will save her life but kill the fetus. Then it's OK.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #639546
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Here's a big surprise rolleyes.

Obama’s Muslim, evolution is fake & Rush Limbaugh is great, Republican voters say in poll

However, Alabama, Mississippi voters aren’t as decisive about which GOP candidate they’ll vote for in primaries

By Corky Siemaszko / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Voters in Alabama and Mississippi may still be split on which Republican they want in the White House, but they agree on this much — in their minds, President Obama is a Muslim.

A stunning 66% of Mississippi respondents to a survey done ahead of Tuesday’s presidential primary have bought into the false notion that Obama worships Allah, Public Policy Polling reported Monday. Some 36% said they weren’t sure.

In Alabama, 45% responded in the affirmative when asked the same question and 41% said they weren’t sure, pollsters found.

Obama is a Christian. But many conservative Republicans just refuse to believe that despite ample evidence to the contrary, pollster Jim Williams said.

“I don’t have an explanation for that,” said Williams. “All I can say is that we have looked at that in other places in the past and it’s never really gone away. You’re dealing with an extremely conservative portion of the electorate in two extremely conservative states.”

Mississippi and Alabama are also deeply religious states that generally rank at or close to the bottom in most state education rankings.

Sixty-six percent of Mississippians surveyed by PPP said they didn’t believe in evolution as did 60% of people in Alabama, the pollsters found.

And in these states, Rush Limbaugh is an admired figure, with 53% of those polled admitting to having a favorable opinion of the right wing rabblerouser. The figure was 51% in Mississippi.

The survey was done over the weekend as Limbaugh continued to be hit by criticism for calling a Georgetown University law student a “slut” on the air.

Given the conservatism of the GOP electorate in Alabama and Mississippi, candidates like Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum should be trouncing more moderate Mitt Romney, the GOP front runner.

Both are far more popular that Romney. But Romney is benefitting from a split in the conservative vote.

The PPP poll found that Gingrich was maintaining a slim 33% to 31% lead over Romney, and the former Massachusetts governor was actually leading Gingrich in Alabama by a hair 31% to 30%.

Santorum was close behind in both states. Ron Paul wasn’t even close.

“About all we know for sure about Tuesday’s primaries is that Ron Paul will finish last in them,” said PPP president Dean Debnam. “Beyond that it’s plausible that any of the candidates could finish between first and third in both Alabama and Mississippi.”

PPP, a non-partisan outfit, surveyed 656 likely Republican voters in Mississippi and 600 likely Republican primary voters in Alabama.

csiemaszko@nydailynews.com

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election...0#ixzz1ovPsgExq


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #639559
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I would not expect anything different from these two states.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639561
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Does Romney like his grits regular or al dente?


Maybe I should be thankful he didn't say this instead: "I like soupbeans! And cornbread! And incest! And going to school barefoot!" Dear lord, we've discovered Addidas decades ago. Maybe he learned a lesson from '08 when Mike Huckabee dinged him for hating to eat fried chicken skin as "southerners" do.*

If he goes to a black neighborhood, will he declare his affinity for them by declaring his love for watermelon?

*=Bullshit. I also refuse to watch NASCAR, aka Not All Southerners Care About Racing. (But I love pro wrestling, I'll admit that redneck stereotype.)

EDIT - Reading up the story behind that "Grits" video, Mittens said "Y'all." If you ever desire a foot up your ass, say that greeting to my face. Nobody around here in East TN says that except in Beverly Hillbillies reruns.



Bill Maher made the interesting point that Southerners never go north and try to say things like, "I read lots of books and make a great vegan meatloaf."


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639584
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More than half of likely Republican voters in Mississippi say they think President Barack Obama is a Muslim, according to a survey conducted by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic polling firm. Fifty-two percent said that Obama practiced Islam, while just 12 percent said he was a Christian. Thirty-six percent said they were not sure.

The poll, conducted by telephone of 656 likely Republican voters in Mississippi on March 10 and 11, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.8 percentage points.

In Alabama, the same poll found that 45 percent of likely Republican voters believed Obama to be a Muslim and 14 percent said they considered him a Christian.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/poll-more-half-mississippi-voters-obama-muslim-192027518.html


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Anderson Cooper


This explains why you came after me in the Rush Limbaugh thread.

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Originally Posted By: olivant
Anderson Cooper


Anderson Cooper. This explains why you came after me in the Limbaugh thread.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #639604
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calling PPP a non-partisan outfit is laughable.

Obama's father was a Muslim. So was his stepfather Lolo Soetoro, who gave Obama a Muslim upbringing as required by the school curriculum in Indonesia. So there was a time in Obama's life when he self-identified as a Muslim.

Obama did not become a Christian until he became a community organizer in Chicago in his twenties. He needed some kind of strong link to the community and Wright the answer.

Now that Obama is President, he does not need a church, so he does not go.

Who cares what the voters of these states think? Everyone is entitled to their own views, right or wrong.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #639621
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That's completely untrue. According to urbanlegend.com:

CNN tracked down the Indonesian school in question, the Basuki School in Jakarta, which a deputy headmaster describes as a "public school" with no particular religious agenda. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment," the headmaster told CNN. A former classmate of Obama's describes the school as "general," with students of many religious backgrounds attending. Obama entered the school at the age of 8 and attended for two years.


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Sicilian babe,

CNN is to the Democrats what Fox News is to the GOP.

Obama's school records were posted by the AP. He wasn't even known as Barack Obama. His name was Barry Soetoro and his stepfather was Lolo Soetoro. The schools in Indonesia ask about nationality and religion. That's just their policy. Children go to "religious instruction" of the religion they are registered as. Obama was a Muslim. He did not become a Christian until Rev Wright baptized him.

There is nothing wrong with Obama being a Muslim as a child. But I can see why he would want to downplay it, fearing it could cost him votes.

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I disagree. President Obama was really not raised in any particular religion. His mother believed he should be exposed to many different religions and cultures.

He attended this school in Indonesia from the ages of 8-10. From the ages of 6-8, he attended a Catholic school. Does that make him Catholic?

And after his two years at the so-called "Muslim school", he attended a private, secular school.

And if you don't believe CNN, would you believe the Associated Press? They had a quote from the Indonesian Minister of Religious Affairs, stating that the school was a public primary school open to people of all faiths.

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Sicilian girl,

AP posted the photo of Obama's registration. His stepdad listed him as Barry Soetoro, and his religion was Islam.

Indonesian schools require kids to register under a religion and take religious instruction classes for the corresponding religion. This is how secular schools were when Obama was a kid.

CNN even did a story where they sent a news crew to Indonesia to interview people at Obama's school. No one denied that he was listed as a Muslim or that he attended Islamic religious instruction.

There's nothing wrong with being honest about Obama's Muslim background and I can understand why it's something he's not going to exploit. I do look down on people who bring it up to imply that his Muslim background means he's somehow sympathetic to terrorism. That's wrong.

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Here's a big surprise rolleyes.

Obama’s Muslim, evolution is fake & Rush Limbaugh is great, Republican voters say in poll

However, Alabama, Mississippi voters aren’t as decisive about which GOP candidate they’ll vote for in primaries

By Corky Siemaszko / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Voters in Alabama and Mississippi may still be split on which Republican they want in the White House, but they agree on this much — in their minds, President Obama is a Muslim.

A stunning 66% of Mississippi respondents to a survey done ahead of Tuesday’s presidential primary have bought into the false notion that Obama worships Allah, Public Policy Polling reported Monday. Some 36% said they weren’t sure.

In Alabama, 45% responded in the affirmative when asked the same question and 41% said they weren’t sure, pollsters found.

Obama is a Christian. But many conservative Republicans just refuse to believe that despite ample evidence to the contrary, pollster Jim Williams said.

“I don’t have an explanation for that,” said Williams. “All I can say is that we have looked at that in other places in the past and it’s never really gone away. You’re dealing with an extremely conservative portion of the electorate in two extremely conservative states.”

Mississippi and Alabama are also deeply religious states that generally rank at or close to the bottom in most state education rankings.

Sixty-six percent of Mississippians surveyed by PPP said they didn’t believe in evolution as did 60% of people in Alabama, the pollsters found.

And in these states, Rush Limbaugh is an admired figure, with 53% of those polled admitting to having a favorable opinion of the right wing rabblerouser. The figure was 51% in Mississippi.

The survey was done over the weekend as Limbaugh continued to be hit by criticism for calling a Georgetown University law student a “slut” on the air.

Given the conservatism of the GOP electorate in Alabama and Mississippi, candidates like Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum should be trouncing more moderate Mitt Romney, the GOP front runner.

Both are far more popular that Romney. But Romney is benefitting from a split in the conservative vote.

The PPP poll found that Gingrich was maintaining a slim 33% to 31% lead over Romney, and the former Massachusetts governor was actually leading Gingrich in Alabama by a hair 31% to 30%.

Santorum was close behind in both states. Ron Paul wasn’t even close.

“About all we know for sure about Tuesday’s primaries is that Ron Paul will finish last in them,” said PPP president Dean Debnam. “Beyond that it’s plausible that any of the candidates could finish between first and third in both Alabama and Mississippi.”

PPP, a non-partisan outfit, surveyed 656 likely Republican voters in Mississippi and 600 likely Republican primary voters in Alabama.

csiemaszko@nydailynews.com

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election...0#ixzz1ovPsgExq



Odd article.

We know Santorum is a Catholic. Romney a Mormon.

Most Christians go by some kind of denomination. So why is Obama a generic "Christian"?

Does he not have a denomination? Is the media somewhat unsure? Do they stop at "Christian" fearing any real analysis of Obama's claim may raise more questions?

If they're going to dig this crap up, they should be a lot more specific, like they are about Romney and Santorum, or don't dig this crap up at all.

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Why do you care? I don't see a big deal being made of anyone's religion, so what difference does it make? Trinity United Church of Christ - there are thousand of churchs called "Church of Christ" in this country. Just because it doesn't say Baptist, Methodist, or Lutheran doesn't make it any less Christian.

Is anyone really surprised that Mississippi and Alabama think he is Muslim, don't believe in evolution, and admire Rush Limbaugh. Is it a coincidence that Alabama and Mississippi have some of the worst education systems in the country? The home of Haley Barbour?


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Pat Robertson made many such claims debunked by poli-facts.

The President DID go to school in Indonesia where they taught (as I understand) both Muslim & Catholicism. He was enrolled by his father (who was in his life a very short time)who was Muslim but shortly after became atheist.

By what I've read/learned, I assume he never really was a big church goer until he was an adult. So What? BUT then he's got that scary middle name, HUSSEIN that the right love to emphasize. OMG, I said it. rolleyes

Politifact sums it up this way:

Obama’s own writings, independent biographies and news articles show he had a secular childhood. Sure, he went to an Indonesian school where most of the children were Muslim and there are accounts that he sometimes attended a mosque with his Islamic stepfather. But there is no evidence that the president was a practicing Muslim raised in the faith.


Btw, my family is Catholic. I have two grandchildren who went/are going to a Religious "Non-Catholic" preschool. I do NOT consider them to be of that faith even tho the Preschool incorporate religion (although admittedly since they are 4yr olds, it doesn't play a major role) in their teachings.


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http://www.politifact.com/virginia/state...-raised-muslim/





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Originally Posted By: Don Marco
Why do you care? I don't see a big deal being made of anyone's religion, so what difference does it make? Trinity United Church of Christ - there are thousand of churchs called "Church of Christ" in this country. Just because it doesn't say Baptist, Methodist, or Lutheran doesn't make it any less Christian.

Is anyone really surprised that Mississippi and Alabama think he is Muslim, don't believe in evolution, and admire Rush Limbaugh. Is it a coincidence that Alabama and Mississippi have some of the worst education systems in the country? The home of Haley Barbour?

Perfectly put, DM. Who cares what brand of Christianity the guy follows?

And for that matter, who really cares if he is a Muslim, as long as he's not an extremist Muslim. Because I have to tell you, we just had eight years of an extremist Christian President, and look how that worked out.

In my opinion, if you vote for anyone who puts theology above government, I'd have to say you have mental problems. And I say this as a practicing Catholic with a tremendous interest in other religions (especially Judaism).


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Originally Posted By: Don Marco
Why do you care? I don't see a big deal being made of anyone's religion, so what difference does it make? Trinity United Church of Christ - there are thousand of churchs called "Church of Christ" in this country. Just because it doesn't say Baptist, Methodist, or Lutheran doesn't make it any less Christian.

Is anyone really surprised that Mississippi and Alabama think he is Muslim, don't believe in evolution, and admire Rush Limbaugh. Is it a coincidence that Alabama and Mississippi have some of the worst education systems in the country? The home of Haley Barbour?


I don't care. But if the mainstream media is going to continue to bring up the issue, I have a right to ask a simple question. It's something I felt was missing from the massive coverage of the survey.

Most people I know in my personal life, or who are public figures, identify by denomination. Obama seems to be a generic "Christian" and the media leaves it at that. They should not bring it up at all unless they're going to be more specific.

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So what if he is a generic Christian? What if he doesn't go to church, which he indicated he didn't til adult years? Why does that matter? confused Just do what's best for our country andf don't push his/her personal faith beliefs on me. The only people this matters to are the Rightwing nutjobs & birthers, and I think it's a cover-up to the real reason they hate him or they'd be talking about pursuing serious issues. rolleyes



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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Pat Robertson made many such claims debunked by poli-facts.

The President DID go to school in Indonesia where they taught (as I understand) both Muslim & Catholicism. He was enrolled by his father (who was in his life a very short time)who was Muslim but shortly after became atheist.

By what I've read/learned, I assume he never really was a big church goer until he was an adult. So What? BUT then he's got that scary middle name, HUSSEIN that the right love to emphasize. OMG, I said it. rolleyes

Politifact sums it up this way:

Obama’s own writings, independent biographies and news articles show he had a secular childhood. Sure, he went to an Indonesian school where most of the children were Muslim and there are accounts that he sometimes attended a mosque with his Islamic stepfather. But there is no evidence that the president was a practicing Muslim raised in the faith.


Btw, my family is Catholic. I have two grandchildren who went/are going to a Religious "Non-Catholic" preschool. I do NOT consider them to be of that faith even tho the Preschool incorporate religion (although admittedly since they are 4yr olds, it doesn't play a major role) in their teachings.


TIS

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/state...-raised-muslim/






Obama's own stepdad registered Obama as a Muslim. He did the right thing considering every father he had was a Muslim. That would have been his religion as a child. Most people consider themselves to be whatever religion their parents forced them to be as children even if they stop observing as adults. For Obama it would have been Islam as a child in Indonesia.

Obama describes "conversion" to Christianity. He's right.

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