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Re: Election 2012 [Re: dontomasso] #633986
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
However as you rightfully point out, PB, contrary to what some believe, the United States is not a theocracy.

I get lucky every few years lol.

Funny thing is, the Bible thumpers who enter politics love to quote scripture. But they have their own interpretation of "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."

When you confront them with it, they just give you a wry smile. It really pisses me off lol.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634047
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National Review kicks Mittens in the balls for his minimum wage proposal. They even use the P word!

The Wages of Pandering

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Mitt Romney has done himself no favors in developing a reputation for political inconstancy, but a flip-flop on his recently reaffirmed support for automatic increases in the minimum wage would be welcome. Indexing the minimum wage to inflation is bad economics, bad public policy, and bad politics: the full trifecta of political incompetence.


Ouch.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/290604/wages-pandering-editors

EDIT - NYT reported this earlier today:

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This year Foster Friess, '08 Romney donor, told Romney he would support Santorum. Romney, baffled, asked 'Why take Rick seriously?'


Speaking of Rick:

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Team Santorum hits back at Romney's only-I-have-the-money-and-organization-to-win argument. 'What an inspiring message,' says Santorum spox. 'I can't wait to put a bumper sticker on my truck that says MONEY-INFRASTRUCTURE 2012.'


OK that was good. lol

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634051
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PPP polled on North Carolina.

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Since September Obama's gone from 31/62 to 48/49 with independents in North Carolina, his best numbers with them in that state since June.

Obama leads Romney 47-46 and Santorum 48-46 in North Carolina.

In 4 swing state polls we've done over the last 2 weeks, Romney does only 1.25 pts better than Santorum.

Romney's swing state blues: 31/56 fav in NC, 28/56 in OH, 30/54 in MO, 29/56 in MN. Just not popular.


Their new national poll comes out tomorrow, but they've already tweeted that Santorum is in the lead.

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This will mean every GOP candidate who made it to 2012 will have led in 1 of our national polls except Paul, Huntsman, and Roemer

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634095
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This will be the turd in the punchbowl for Mittens' camp at CPAC this weekend. From the conservative-leaning poll of polls for Fox News...

Rasmussen: Obama With A Ten Point Lead Over Romney

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The Rasmussen tracking poll of a possible matchup between President Obama and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney shows Obama with a ten point lead in their polling. The Ras national tracking poll is an average of 500 automated interviews a night over three days. "This is the largest lead the president has enjoyed against Romney in regular polling going back more than a year," Rasmussen wrote in its analysis. "It’s also the first time that the president has reached the 50% level of support against Romney."


http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/en...ad-over?ref=fpb

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634096
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Speaking of polls, I can't say I know this site and can't confirm how legit it is, BUT it does bring a smile to my face. lol

The Right Freaks Out As GOP Poll Finds 20% Of Republicans May Vote For Obama

http://www.politicususa.com/en/republicans-support-obama


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634160
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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634162
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We've talked previously about how Mittens sucks at freestyling in public. Apparently a line from CPAC yesterday that's giving currently him grief, it's a gaffe because at the heat of the moment he added one little word that wasn't in his prepared text speech. I'll highlight that one word.

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"I fought against long odds in a deep blue state, but I was a severely conservative Republican governor."


Less freestyling, more parroting will do that boy wonders.

~When brainiac Rush Limbaugh whacks you over that choice of word, you know you really screwed up.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634164
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Santorum donor:

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A liberal, a moderate, and a conservative walk into a bar... the bartender says, "Hey, Mitt!"


lol

EDIT -

Not a Mittens gaffe, but a failed joke one-liner like Obama's milk regulation line at the SOTU address:

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“I served in government, but I didn’t inhale."



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634171
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Just to be fair, I'll post two more stupid things said at CPAC yesterday by the two other candidates:

Newt's novel solution to immigration:

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Gingrich recounted how in the successful world of private sector companies, companies like UPS and Fedex can track packages accurately across the world and provide the information free to customers.

"Here's the world that fails: the US government cannot find 11 million illegai immigrants even if they're sitting still," he said. "Now I have a proposal we send a package to everyone who's here illegally and when it's delivered we pull it up on a computer, we know where we are."


Rick Santorum on Obamacare:

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"[The France Revolution] was a secular revolution on which we relied on the goodness of each other. This is the left’s view of where America should go. And of course where did France go? To the guillotine. To tyranny. If there are no rights that government needs to respect, then what we see with ObamaCare is just the beginning of what government will do to you,"

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634345
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Mittens wins the CPAC straw poll, of course Paul won how many of those in recent years? Anyway NYT reported that he bused in the same east coast kids that he bused down to South Carolina to give his rallies some bodies and enthusiasm.

Mittens also won the Main caucuses, which to be fair started voting a week ago, before Tuesday.

TPM so far reports that in early results coming in, Mittens won 39% in Maine, followed by Paul at 35%.

If the totals keep up, turnout will be higher than 4 years ago, but Mittens' voting % has dropped by 12 points compared to the '08 primary outing in Maine.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634350
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
what we see with ObamaCare is just the beginning of what government will do to you,"




Has it occured to Santorum that he has been and is still trying to be government?

Does anyone else see Santorum as the Catholic version of an evangelical?

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634390
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Starting at about 0:21

"Can I shake your hand anyway?"

"NO!"

lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634391
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Spooky.

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Maine GOP Chairman Charlie Webster told the Portland Press-Herald on Friday that "either Paul or Romney will win by 200 votes, in my opinion, one way or the other."

The final margin: Romney by 194 votes.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634747
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Romney's Valentine:






lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634757
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TIS - that made my day.

Anyway, give props to Santorum: he's holding a rally in Washington, same day that state's Governor is expected to sign gay marriage into law. Clever.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634758
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I just heard that Santorum is ahead of Mitt in Michigan (which is were Mitt was born). Granted there is time yet, BUT I a thinking it's Ricky's turn to take the lead before it eventually goes to Romney. Btw, Newt is very very silent. What happened to the ego-man anyway?

And the Clown show continues. lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634759
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Norquist: Romney will be our Bitch

This is a must read.

On friday at CPAC, feared Anti-Tax lobbyist Grover Norquist gave a speech indicating how much Mittens is respected by him and other conservative "leaders." He says the following, as reported by David Frum:

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All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.


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Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.


Frum observes the bluntly obvious:

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This is not a very complimentary assessment of Romney's leadership. It's also not a very realistic political program: congressional Republicans have a disapproval rating of about 75%. If Americans get the idea that a vote for Romney is a vote for the Ryan plan, Romney is more or less doomed.

To date, sad to say, Romney has worked hard to confirm this image of weakness.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/13/grover-norquist-speech-cpac.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634761
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You know, as the quotes above seem to indicate, alot of Republicans are forgetting that there is a little organization called the Congress that figures into the Republican agenda. Signing stuff assumes that there wil be stuff there to sign.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #634782
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Originally Posted By: olivant
You know, as the quotes above seem to indicate, alot of Republicans are forgetting that there is a little organization called the Congress that figures into the Republican agenda. Signing stuff assumes that there wil be stuff there to sign.


To be fair, GOP winning Congress is quite plausible. I'm willing to bet a whole day's paycheck that the Dems won't retake the House, and the GOP has a solid shot of winning the Senate.

So yeah, why wouldn't right-wingers assume their GOP President would be the rubber stamper?

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634784
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While the big headline from the new Pew survey has Santorum/Mittens dead heat, here is a figure worth reading:

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November, Mitt Romney was beating President Obama among independent voters, 53% to 41%. Now those numbers are upside down: Obama tops Romney among them, 51% to 42%. That's a net 19 point swing of independents in Obama's direction in three months


To go negative or not to go negative against Santorum? That is the question.

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Focusing on the real issues.

Mittens/Newt/Santorum all promise to Ban Distribution of Porn

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The conservative group Morality In Media is head over heels today after all three top Republican candidates promised to go war against the distribution of porn.


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What the candidates and the group really are saying through the usual right wing code is that they want to ban pornography.

On one of their many websites, the group claims blames pornography for most of society’s ills and believes that porn causes brain damage, “Simultaneously, medical research documenting how pornography harms brain function is now available, yet it is still relatively unknown to parents, medical personnel, legislators, and law enforcement.”


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If you really want to know how the Republican Party got so screwed up, consider that the top three candidates for the Republican presidential nomination has given more detail about how they would ban pornography than they have about how they would create jobs. I don’t care what people do in the privacy of their homes, and you would think that supposedly “small government” conservatives wouldn’t either.


http://www.politicususa.com/en/ban-porn-gingrich-santorum-romney

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634801
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Now, don't be too critical. I favor severe restrictions on pornography and actually woul dsupport an outright ban on it. I seriously doubt that the ratifiers of the 1st amendment did so to protect pornography.


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Originally Posted By: olivant
Now, don't be too critical. I favor severe restrictions on pornography and actually woul dsupport an outright ban on it.


why?

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Something or nothing?

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There’s no clear proof yet that any of Mitt Romney’s offshore accounts helped him avoid (even entirely legally) US taxes. But if it is ever is proven, he could have a problem with a recent comment in Maine. Pressed on the question of offshore accounts by a hostile questioner at a town hall meeting, Romney denied avoiding any taxes with his offshore accounts.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #634811
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NYT reports that a Mittens SuperPac (which of course Mittens has NO coordination with) has bought $500,000 worth of TV ads in Michigan.

The hammer is coming down.

EDIT - And their first ad will attack...Newt.

confused

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
I'm willing to bet a whole day's paycheck that the Dems won't retake the House

Have you ever had a job? tongue lol


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i miss seeing these debates

they were very entertaining

the next one is on Feb 22nd

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I know politicians promise things both ways, but this takes the cake.

Mittens:

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“This week, President Obama will release a budget that won’t take any meaningful steps toward solving our entitlement crisis,” Romney said in a statement e-mailed to reporters. “The president has failed to offer a single serious idea to save Social Security and is the only president in modern history to cut Medicare benefits for seniors.”


Damn him for not cutting entitlements, and damn him for cutting entitlements!


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Are you two of the three men who walked in the bar? lol



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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Have you ever had a job? tongue lol


I'm not willing to risk a week's paycheck, because what if they actually win the House? That's alot of cash to piss away.

Of course obviously not alot for you, huh Mitt? tongue

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