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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #630992
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After getting humiliated last night, Mittens has announced he'll release at least his '10 tax returns. Sometime this week.

Why do I have the sinking feeling that "issue" isn't dead yet?

~Why? See CNN debate quesiton on George Romney. I could totally see Newt and later the Democrats (Newt especially) use Romney Sr.'s comments about releasing just one year's tax returns* as proving nothing because it could be "just a fluke" and using that as smear against Jr.

*=Lost in the headlines, he's also promising to release his '11 tax estimates. Not the same, but just being fair here.

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Ok, why is he just releasing last year's and projection for this year? Give HIM the Obama treatment. Hound him to death for the long form (past 6 years or whatever they normally release). mad What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Ok, why is he just releasing last year's and projection for this year? Give HIM the Obama treatment. Hound him to death for the long form (past 6 years or whatever they normally release). mad What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


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To be fair, didn't Hillary hound Obama on his taxes too at one point? Apparently the future President did eventually release his tax returns...10 years backworth in spring 2008, March I believe.

I know some of Mittens' people panicking I'm sure after last night, but piecemealing such an issue after papercut after papercut by himself, I just don't know if this will kill the issue for now or not.

Here's my idea: What if he released say at least 5 years worth? He could then dick Newt for not releasing his Bernie Mac papers and older tax returns. It would totally work and totally change the story because you know Newt doesn't want his Bernie Mac shit released. Oh no. The heat would turn back on the Georgian Bacon.

Because politicians aren't the rest of us. They tend to easily be identified for fraud if they deduct trivial shit. Remember when the Clintons took a tax deductable in donating used socks/underwear to Goodwill? They got heat for a brief time over that petty cheat. That's a problem with being a politician: everything about you is under a microscrope. Or more accurately these days, a flip camera phone.

In short, I think if Mittens did release his returns, we'll find assumingly absolutely surely nothing new. Or not the dirt that he's indirectly promised us with his recent dodging and kabuki dancing. Right?

I did read someone's conspiracy theory, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up, that Mittens is doing his best to hide the supposed millions he's donated to the Church of LDS over the years. *shrugs*

Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #631037
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Ok, why is he just releasing last year's and projection for this year? Give HIM the Obama treatment. Hound him to death for the long form (past 6 years or whatever they normally release). mad What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Not when the goose is black and the gander is white, Tis wink.

Bottom line on the GOP: Mitt will never win over the conservatives. Newt will never win over the Independents. That's why they can't win.

And it won't surprise me in the least if the loser runs as a third party candidate.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #631084
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And it won't surprise me in the least if the loser runs as a third party candidate.


It won't happen, but I would love a 3rd party Paul run. Force those fundamental philosophical disagreements that some right-wingers are having right now regarding topics like the Patriot Act, unilateral serial warfare, and the War on Drugs. He would also cost Obama votes because alot of those Paul supporters are disgruntled liberals and independents. But mostly Mittens/Newt would be hurt more I suppose.

Anyway, TPM is reporting that Mittens is gonna get real nasty, real quick on Newt, ready to play Newt better than Newt. I guess Newt pissed in his Cheerios one too many times. Also he's playing a new speech line that Obama never had a job before going into the White House.


What?

You're sure Mitt? Wikipedia claims the following:

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He then served as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law.

From April to October 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be. In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.

From 1994 to 2002, Obama served on the boards of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project; and of the Joyce Foundation. He served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995 to 1999.


I know Mittens is trying to refine his message after the saturday night massacre, but it needs more work. Anyway, tomorrow night should be a total hoot. I'm getting the popcorn.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #631094
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Opps.

Gingrich Used Payroll Tax Ploy Often Attacked By IRS

http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/...ttacked-by-irs/

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #631172
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NEWT SURGING.... LEADS ROMNEY BY 8 POINTS IN FLA


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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
NEWT SURGING.... LEADS ROMNEY BY 8 POINTS IN FLA

Flori-Duh rolleyes.

That speaks volumes about the people living in the central part of the state. A few years ago, I had to gas up on Alligator Alley just about halfway between Broward and Polk Counties. And I swear to God, Goober Pyle really was the gas station attendant whistle.


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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
NEWT SURGING.... LEADS ROMNEY BY 8 POINTS IN FLA

Flori-Duh rolleyes.

That speaks volumes about the people living in the central part of the state. A few years ago, I had to gas up on Alligator Alley just about halfway between Broward and Polk Counties. And I swear to God, Goober Pyle really was the gast station attendant whistle.


what else do you think jeb would be doing?

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: dontomasso
NEWT SURGING.... LEADS ROMNEY BY 8 POINTS IN FLA

Flori-Duh rolleyes.

That speaks volumes about the people living in the central part of the state. A few years ago, I had to gas up on Alligator Alley just about halfway between Broward and Polk Counties. And I swear to God, Goober Pyle really was the gas station attendant whistle.



This is a closed primary, so it is GOP only. It is not the middl of the state as the Panhandle. Obama, Kerry and Gore both carried the I-4 corridor. The remaining GOP people in Palm Beach and Naples are for Romney, but they are the 1% !!!!!!!!!


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You're right, DT. The people in the Panhandle make the folks in Lakeland look like Mensa members whistle.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #631241
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Well if Mittens was planning on using Freddie Mac against Newt, Newt just short circuited it. He's releasing the papers tonight during the debates.

and from Gallup:

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Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney continues to lose support nationally, according to the new Gallup tracking poll of the Republican race out Monday. Romney clings to just a one point lead on former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, 29 – 28.

To put it in perspective, Romney was up on Gingrich by ten on Friday. Less than a week before that, he was up 23 points after he had won the Iowa caucuses (which was later confirmed to be won by former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum) and the New Hampshire primary, which Romney dominated. But his loss in the South Carolina primary has clearly caused many Republicans nationally to reconsider Gingrich.


EDIT - also Mittens has hired Bachmann's debate coach. whistle

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #631263
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President Newt would invade and overthrow Castro.

Now that's good pandering.

EDIT - Fred Thompson just endorsed Newt.

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Gaffe?

Quote:
"If people don't have a card and through a system determine they are here illegally they will find they can't get work here. If they can't get work they will self-deport to where they can get work."


Mittens' greatest achivement? A new word: "Self-deport."

Vote Mittens, and he'll let the illegal immigrants self-deport themselves.

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Very low key debate tonight. No cut throat tactics, and THIS audience isn't applauding at all, so it's kind of hard to tell where it's going. No major gaffes tho no? confused

But, IF Fred Thompson is endorsing Newt, well then that's good enough for me. lol



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lol

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #631278
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Romney threw tons of shot (Fredi Mac, etc) at Newts direction but Gingrinch wasnt biting


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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The truth shall set you free!

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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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DD - good ones! Now Newter mailed this:

Newt Camp Sends Blank E-Mail: 'Mitt Romney's Top Conservative Achievements'

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This was in response to a question that Romney was asked, in which he listed his top conservative accomplishments as raising a family and running his business in the private sector, along with his achievements as Governor of the very Democratic state of Massachusetts. (source TPM)

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #631288
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Love the cartoon ads DD and the newspaper headline is great. smile
A blank e-mail sounds exactly like something Newt would do.

I am just surprised cause Newt seemed so low key tonight (compared to SC). One exchange with Romney started to get a little testy and it seemed like Mitt was prepared to fight back but Newt seemed to discipline himself to be calm. Go figure. confused

Analysis by pundits seem to think this debate didn't really change anything. I tend to agree but there is still a ways to go.

Btw, did anyone else laugh at Mitt's "self-deportation" comment. lol


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^^^yea i thought wtf at Mitt's self deportation comment

I felt Mitt looked a little desperate in this debate, he came out swinging right from the beginning attacking Newt and trying to bait him to get angry and for the most part Newt played the "im the front runner-let me be high and mighty" role quite well i thought, then Romney starts saying stupid stuff about self deportation and his stupid comment on Afghanistan

"How do you win? Well, by beating your opponent, of course. And how do you beat your opponent? By winning. "

LMAO


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don


"How do you win? Well, by beating your opponent, of course. And how do you beat your opponent? By winning. "

LMAO


Just as goofy as this he said sometime back:

"I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love."

(Did Palin write that for him?)

EDIT - Was I the only one who thought how odd when Mittens claimed he would pay no taxes under Newt's tax plan? I get the idea, but something about that...I don't know.

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^^^LMAO poor Mitt lol


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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The Mittens '10 Tax Returns have been released. The summary:

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—Mitt Romney paid a 13.9% tax rate on $21.6 million in income last year.

—Most of the income came from dividends and interest on investments, which are taxed at a much lower rate.

—Romney raked in America’s median adjusted gross income of $33,048 in “less than a day,” Bloomberg notes. His income over a one-week span puts him in the top 1 percent of annual earners.

—Romney, who files jointly with his wife Ann, expects to pay a 15.4 percent rate on $20.9 million in income this year.

—His campaign said he had $7.4 million in carried interest last year; this year the figure is $5.5 million.

—Romney contributed $7 million in charitable donations in the last two years, at least $4.1 million of which was to the Mormon Church.

source: TPM


EDIT - I smell a good smear.

Will Romney's 2010 Tax Return Reveal Voter Fraud?

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Voter registration fraud in MA is punishable by a $10,000 fine and up to five years in jail. Residency requirements in MA are defined as "where a person dwells and which is the center of his domestic, social, and civil life." Yet, when Karger filed his complaint last Summer he noted that local residents in Belmont had told him at the time that the Romney's had "moved to California".

"I haven’t seen Mrs. Romney in over two years, and she used to come in here all the time," Karger says a local merchant told him. A member of the nearby Mormon Temple and Meetinghouse in Belmont, where Mitt and his wife Ann had attended weekly church services when they lived there, said she "hadn’t seen the Romneys since 2008."


http://bradblog.com/?p=9083

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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Very low key debate tonight. No cut throat tactics, and THIS audience isn't applauding at all, so it's kind of hard to tell where it's going. No major gaffes tho no? confused

But, IF Fred Thompson is endorsing Newt, well then that's good enough for me. lol

TIS


the audience was told beforehand not to applause

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/24..._n_1225953.html


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Thanks DD

I heard later that the audience was told not to applaud. I wonder if it is because of their behavior at the other debates or if each state has different guidelines.

Btw, did you see the clip of Santorum campaign stop in which a lady asked him why, since President Obama is NOT an American citizen, hasn't anything been done to get him out of office?
Sanatorum's reply was only, (loosely)"I'm doing what I can to get him out of office. NO mention that this woman is totally off base. Does anything go in these campaign stops? confused

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Just heard on MSNBC that Newt Gingrich is "threatening" to pull out of other debates IF the audience can't participate. lol Poor Newt, didn't feel the love last night? (or is it hate?).



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