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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #628033
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Romney has already stated that he would add 100k soldiers to the DOD and double the size of the Navy. Why? Imagine the expense.

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Well, we're winding down two wars, time for another. mad "Bomb bomb bomb Iran" seems to be an appropriate catch phrase for them. rolleyes



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628035
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Alot of the comments by candidates are out of ignorance or are intended to influence a relatively uninformed public. For one, I believe that only Perry and paul have military service. Romney sure doesn't. Being in the military doesn't necessarily imbue one with military strategic knowledge. However, not being in the military can contrast sharply with one's military-related proposals.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #628036
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Originally Posted By: olivant
However, not being in the military can contrast sharply with one's military-related proposals.


Dating back to Kennedy, it seems the Presidents have had progressively less military experience.

Obama: No military experience

Dubya: National Guard, Stateside during Vietnam

Clinton: No military experience

George HW Bush: Naval Reserve, WWII

Reagan: Army, Stateside during WWII

Carter: Navy, Naval Academy during WWII, Sea duty during Korean War

Ford: Navy, Saw combat on USS Monterey during WWII

Nixon: Navy, WWII

Johnson: Navy, Silver Star, WWII

Kennedy: Navy, Combat in WWII


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #628038
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Of course. As time goes by, that tendency may be reversed due to the number of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans that may choose to run. However, even service does not eqaute to strategic knowledge. I served and I wouldn't consider myself sufficiently well versed to make Presidential military decisions based solely on it.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628107
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A pivot: FDR. Never served in the military, but he was Assistant Secretary to the Navy under Wilson.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628108
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Romney Promises To Blow A Bigger Hole In The Deficit

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Households making more than $1 million would get an average tax cut of almost $300,000, largely because, as owners of capital, they’d receive the bulk of the benefit of Romney’s very generous corporate tax reductions.


http://taxvox.taxpolicycenter.org/2012/01/05/romney%E2%80%99s-tax-plan-big-benefits-for-the-wealthy-and-higher-deficits/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+taxpolicycenter%2Fblogfeed+%28TaxVox%3A+the+Tax+Policy+Center+blog%29

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628128
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Iowa Caucus Vote Counter Says Santorum Won, Claims Typo Gave Romney 20 Extra Votes

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #628161
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: olivant
However, not being in the military can contrast sharply with one's military-related proposals.


Dating back to Kennedy, it seems the Presidents have had progressively less military experience.

Obama: No military experience

Dubya: National Guard, Stateside during Vietnam

Clinton: No military experience

George HW Bush: Naval Reserve, WWII

Reagan: Army, Stateside during WWII

Carter: Navy, Naval Academy during WWII, Sea duty during Korean War

Ford: Navy, Saw combat on USS Monterey during WWII

Nixon: Navy, WWII

Johnson: Navy, Silver Star, WWII

Kennedy: Navy, Combat in WWII


George H.W. Bush saw combat as a carrier based torpedo/bomber pilot during WWII and was shot down by flak. He received several medals and honors in his military career.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Don Marco] #628183
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George H.W. Bush saw combat as a carrier based torpedo/bomber pilot during WWII and was shot down by flak. He received several medals and honors in his military career.

Yeah, my bad, DM. That's pretty common knowledge. Didn't he jump out of an airplane when was like 80 with some of his old war buddies as some sort of reunion?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628198
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(CNN) - Mitt Romney's numbers in South Carolina are surging (37%), and he now has a solid lead over his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, according to a new survey of likely GOP primary voters in the Palmetto state.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628274
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McCain Forgets Romney’s Name


Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628345
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I think Mitt's going to have some problems with this jobs answer. Mitt Romney just insisted that his 100,000 jobs number includes both jobs gains and jobs losses. But in fact his own top advisor said only a few days ago that the 100,000 number came from the jobs created from three companies and did not include the losses.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/01/steppin_in_it.php?ref=fpblg

Santorum: ‘There Are No Classes In America’

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/3740?ref=fpa

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628366
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We have been getting a bit of this Republican hoopla on our news over here in good old blighty but one snippet of info gave me a bit of a chuckle. Only 6% of Americans apparently know Mr. Romneys real first name is actually Willard, which doesn't say much for his popularity i would say, but my point is that a certain percentage thought his real name was Gromit?????

Fuck me, thats hilarious tongue

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #628399
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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
We have been getting a bit of this Republican hoopla on our news over here in good old blighty but one snippet of info gave me a bit of a chuckle. Only 6% of Americans apparently know Mr. Romneys real first name is actually Willard, which doesn't say much for his popularity i would say, but my point is that a certain percentage thought his real name was Gromit?????

Fuck me, thats hilarious tongue


i thought his first name was Flip, and middle name Flop.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #628419
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Ronnie, I hope that President Obama uses that clip in every single commercial.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #628422
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Anyone watch the debate last night (or this morning there was another one on very early)? Evidently if Rick Perry were President, he'd send troops back to Iraq. panic Now there's a good reason to vote for him. lol Bye bye Ricky Boy.



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #628423
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Ronnie, I hope that President Obama uses that clip in every single commercial.


SB,

I am sure the Obama team is savoring some of these moments. Heck they can attack Romney just by playing his own words for and then against any one issue. lol They had a great ad to that affect I think I posted a while back.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #628425
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Anyone watch the debate last night (or this morning there was another one on very early)? Evidently if Rick Perry were President, he'd send troops back to Iraq. panic Now there's a good reason to vote for him. lol Bye bye Ricky Boy.



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I watched much of it. I enjoy listening to Paul. His statements serve as a sharp contrast with the statements of those others. Perry seems to respond to the latest headlines. As Santorum continues, more and more peole will see him as trying to wed Catholicism and politics. I think for many Republicans, Romney is looking like the safe cabdidate.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #628427
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Oli,

At first I thought perhaps Santorum (or one of the others) might stand a chance. However, the more Santorum,Gingrich open there mouths the more I think they're toast. I'm guessing the Republicans who hate Mitt will either have to bite the bullet, plug their nose and vote for him or vote for one of the others that they know won't win. confused


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #628434
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Oli,

At first I thought perhaps Santorum (or one of the others) might stand a chance. However, the more Santorum,Gingrich open there mouths the more I think they're toast. I'm guessing the Republicans who hate Mitt will either have to bite the bullet, plug their nose and vote for him or vote for one of the others that they know won't win. confused


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santorum sounds like a fucking idiot. who wants to get rid of birth control? that's really taking a religious view to the extreme.

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Originally Posted By: BAM_233


santorum sounds like a fucking idiot. who wants to get rid of birth control?


Romney

When he backed the "Personhood Amendment" down in Mississippi which among other things would've also banned In Vitro Fertilization (IVF). Did that (stupid) measure got its ass kicked at the ballot, and Romney ran away from ownership of that position like it was the plague.

Sure he was stroking off the base when he did that, but that doesn't excuse him.

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: BAM_233


santorum sounds like a fucking idiot. who wants to get rid of birth control?


Romney

When he backed the "Personhood Amendment" down in Mississippi which among other things would've also banned In Vitro Fertilization (IVF). Did that (stupid) measure got its ass kicked at the ballot, and Romney ran away from ownership of that position like it was the plague.

Sure he was stroking off the base when he did that, but that doesn't excuse him.




Maybe Romney is schizophrenic.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: dontomasso] #628537
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso


Maybe Romney is schizophrenic.


No, more and more I think he might actually be the dumbest guy* in that field. Give him a chance to articulate himself outside of his well-rehearsed talking points, and he'll choke to death on his own foot.

Romney: "I Like Being Able To Fire People"

Cut, paste, print, and repeat.

He might've actually given the incumbent better ammo than "Corporations are People," "I was once unemployed too," "I was afraid of getting the pink slip," and the many more gaffes we're apparently sure to get in the next 10 months.

Dumbass.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/romney-i-like-being-able-to-fire-people.php?ref=fpb

*=after Rick Perry, of course. But when Perry is populist attacking you as a jobs killer in South Carolina (and well, if too late for him)...or that damn $10,000 gaffe which made Perry look smart in that exchange.

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"Literally A Textbook Case Of Executive Greed And Mismanagement"

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Poll: 58% of Republicans want more presidential choices

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Good Democratic ad, right? Wrong, Newt produced this.


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Thought Newt was going to run a positive campaign


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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Thought Newt was going to run a positive campaign

He's the same redneck lowlife he was twenty years ago.


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I finally lived long enough to hear Republicans attacking capitalism. Madonne! Has hell frozen over?


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