True TIS. Also, the courts are traditionally reluctant to get involved in what is essentially a political argument. So, I don't see them getting involved.

Turley argues that this recess appointment is bad for the country and bad for the constitution.
Cordray Appt

I guess the commander-in-chief thing doesn't apply to Obama.

This person needs a visit from the Secret Service.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/20...html?1327099666

I read that story and yes, I would think the Secret Service already did pay him a visit.

Lilo, how are you?


TIS

Doing ok, TIS. Thanks!

I wish I remember who was it that said it best: "Neocons are more Pro-Israeli than Israelis."

(Though in this case, someone in print suggesting a foreign power murder our President is fucked up, in a total understatement.)

The hypocrisy is that the neocons couldn't care less about the Jews as a people. They only support Israel to fulfill their own ridiculous "end times" Biblical prophecy.

Ok, how can they possible summons the President to court to defend that he is a U.S. citizen. What more do they want? What is with this judge? Can he do this? The fact that it's NOT major news (so far), tells me it's going nowhere. What a frickin' waste of time.

.... ..A Georgia judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court Thursday in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint he isn’t a natural-born citizen and should not be on the state’s primary ballot in March, reports the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer.

A Georgia resident made the complaint that prompted the order. It is one of many such complaints made across the country. So far, none of the complaints have been successful.

An Obama campaign aide said any attempts to involve the president personally will fail and that such complaints have no merit, the newspaper reported.

Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi on Friday denied a motion by the president’s lawyer to quash a subpoena that requires Obama to show up, the Ledger-Enquirer said.








http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morning_call/2012/01/georgia-judge-orders-obama-to-court.html


TIS

It's Georgia, Tis. Their punishment is, well, living in Georgia.

I'd love to see the State of Georgia try to enforce this order.

I'd love to see the State of Georgia enforce orders against inbreeding. But first things first.

Even IF he went, what more can he show, say or do. State of Hawaii verified from the start. What could President Obama say? If they want to force anyone to court, call the State of Hawaii.

Plus the fact that a judge is doing this makes the legal system more of a joke.


TIS

TIS, you're old enough to remember Alabama governor George Wallace trying to block black students from attending his state's universities even though the state was ordered to do so.

He had state troopers surround the school building in an effort to block the students from entering. Imagine, he was taking the state's police force to back up his own political agenda. President Kennedy ordered an assistant Attorney General, backed up by Federal Marshals, to simply pass the Alabama State Troopers. Wallace ordered the troopers to stand their ground. The assistant Attorney General called his boss. President Kennedy (yay) federalized the Alabama militia. Wallace stepped aside.

These state vs federal government issues can be scary but they're also damned entertaining.

SC,

I sure do remember. Wow, what a flashback. How historic was that?




TIS

Btw, I think I have a picture in my head that was in the newspaper regarding that story.

TIS, there is a ton of precedent regarding this. It would be so easy for the Solicitor General to simply have a federal judge quash the state subpoena. However, the more expedient course would be for the president to ignore it. There are so many issues involved. The first one that comes to mind is the Georgia citizen's standing to even have their complaint considered. Of course, a default judgement by the court would certainly be challenged by Georgia's Secretary of State and the Georgia Democratic Party.

Glad to hear it Oli. It does seem like an overreach on the part of the GA court. I would love for the President to simply ignore it. Thanks for the info


TIS

Some yokel judge trying to make a name for himself.

Goalie declines White House Invite

"political differeneces"

Yeah you snubbing the POTUS will sure humiliate him and bring praise from your Minuteman ancestors or your Marxist brothers! What the hell? Why not a free trip to the White House and meet the President? How many people can get to brag that accomplishment in their lifetimes?

Plus, the White House trip is sorta part of the championship package, with all spoils go to the victors. Same with championship paycheck raises, a hero's parade in your home city, and a nice kickass ring you can wing out in public view anytime some fat asshole at the local bar claims you're wrong about a football opinion.

Methinks he may have taken a puck too many to the head!

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - A Jewish newspaper owner who attracted U.S. Secret Service attention for a column suggesting that Israel consider assassinating an American president has resigned as the paper’s editor, employees there said Monday.

The resignation comes after a firestorm over the column and after a tearful apology from the editor-in-chief of Georgia’s Atlanta Jewish Times, Andrew Adler.

sorry but had to post it here as well since its an obama thread

Sean Hannity:



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It can also be proven that Hannity takes it up the dump shoot. But that's another topic all together.

Just a rant....


But sometimes I think that if we're going to challenge these brutal, psychotic killer despot rogue regimes around the globe we ought to have some brutal, (perhaps violent) shrewd s.o.b's of our own in office.

I kind of got that feeling with the members of the Bush Administration. The type of experienced and seasoned leaders with decades of geo political experience who wouldn't hesitate to wipe a dictator off the face of the map if need be, and everyone knew it.

When I look at some members of the Obama administration I feel like they should be sitting in a Starbucks on the campus of a community college or something.

We'll see I guess, but I think most around the globe such as Iran consider this administration rather passive when it comes to military matters, the killing of OBL not withstanding.

You mean unlike those whiskey drinking brave souls that populated the Bush administration like Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, John Bolton, Tony Snow, Ari Fleischer, Paul Wolfowitz, Andy Card, and Lewis Libby none of which ever served in the Army or the other services like I did. There are plenty of others in Bush administration who were big on talk but who didn't choose to show how tough they were by putting their lives on the line. But hey, they had "decades of geo political experience". And the President who somehow was brave enough to join the National Guard, but not the Army where, God forbid, he might actually have to prove how brave he was.

I believe you believe this, but that's about it.

I like you purposely didn't mention Libya. Because quick wars that we won are a shame. I know, that's weak and effeminate. I'm sorry. We needed to drop thousands of dead Americans there over a decade and blow a trillion bucks. Now THAT'S BALLS! (Nevermind Obama did something Reagan never could: get Gaddafi killed. Bad Barry Bad!)

Better yet, what about the success from the escalation of the drone program in Yemen and Afghanistan/Pakistan in taking out the Al Qaeda infrastructure? Hell Al Qaeda in Yemen is probably more legitimate and tougher than the ones left still shitting in caves over in Pakistan.

Iran, really? Obama is fucking doing everything but war in sanctions and diplomacy. And war is the probable outcome from that feud, I say 50/50, and I'm being optimistic. I know Neocons confuse military deterrence with military action (Clue: There's a difference)...

No better yet: Nitti, what have you learned in the lats decade? What exactly did you learn from our trip to Iraq? You have alot of counter-arguments, what did you learn from that adventure?

I'm sorry for coming off as a dick here, but this is the typical view the right-wing has of Obama. And I posted a column published the other day in the Election 2012 thread, a piece writen by a Former Bush advisor warning the GOP to not treat Obama as if he's another Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton. He argued that Obama is actually the strongest Democratic President in foreign affairs since WW2.

It's a compelling argument, and really how can Mittens or anybody run to the right of him for the most part? Americans are war weary, and they'll only go for war if they're absolutely forced to. This isn't 2003 when war was still fun and games for the public.