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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: Mukremin]
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01/01/12 06:29 AM
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John Gotti had allegedly killed several people but all unconfirmed, like Tommy Desimone he apparently did that himself and did it slowly, (also read tommy agro killed him tho), John Favara he apparently chainsawed this poor guy after he returned from Florida (he was kept alive until he returned), Vito Borelli was apparently killed by John Gotti but on the Word of Joe Massino who by the way Gotti had called a "punk" and lol "a hungry whale swallowing anything he can get" so you never know... I also read that John had got iggy alogna to try and get Louis Dibono alive and bring him back to him, to which he would have certainly killed him himself - theres likely more but cant think, hungover 
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: NickyScarfo]
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01/01/12 09:14 AM
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Scarfo most certainly put bullets into people, and took lives in other ways --- that manslaughter thing that Bruno sent him to AC for.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: Sonny_Black]
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01/01/12 10:36 AM
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Robert Di-B Dibernardo and Tommy Gambino, were high ranking in the Gambino family - Tommy was a captain and i'm quite sure DB was a ranked a captain even though he never had a crew...I read somewhere he may have been made in New Jersey Decavalcante Family before being transferred to the Gambinos - when Paul was killed he apparently was made a captain for his assistance in setting big paul up...
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: gemini_killer]
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01/01/12 10:56 AM
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Let us not forget about Michael Franzese who claims he never killed anyone. Perhaps a little dubious but who are we to know? And according to Vinny Teresa, Jerry Angiulo (the Patriarca Underboss) bought himself into the mob when taking over the numbers rackets in the Boston area. Robert Di-B Dibernardo and Tommy Gambino, were high ranking in the Gambino family - Tommy was a captain and i'm quite sure DB was a ranked a captain even though he never had a crew...I read somewhere he may have been made in New Jersey Decavalcante Family before being transferred to the Gambinos - when Paul was killed he apparently was made a captain for his assistance in setting big paul up...
GK, your quote is correct. After Terry Zappi died in 1986, his NJ soldiers came under the command of Mike Mondaglia who was made capo, while "Big" Chris Richichi (who was also made a capo) took over Zappi´s NY soldiers. Robert DiBernardo, who had belonged to the Zappi crew as well, was also bumped up to capo for his support in the Castellano killing. Allthough he had no soldiers. According to FBI documents that somebody posted here (I think it was Ivy, but I´m not sure), DiBernardo functioned briefly as an acting capo while Zappi was ill. A year or so before Zappi died.
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: NickyScarfo]
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01/01/12 11:54 AM
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Yeah like Gambino, Castellano, Scarfo, did they ever murder themselves? Its not a nice thing to say but I think it takes more toughness, balls or whatever to personally do the deed rather than organising or planning it. Nicky Scarfo killed a guy over a seat at the Oregon Diner, he only did a few years for it thought. That is when Bruno wanted to have him wacked out, but Nicky's uncles saved him from death, but not banishment to Atlantic City, which was a wasteland at the time.
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: JCrusher]
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01/01/12 01:49 PM
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Gaspipe Casso killed more than a few.
I'm interested in the older Dons. Genovese definitely was a killer, but I've never read anything about direct killing by Bonanno, Costello, Luciano, Lucchese or Mangano. Doesn't mean they didn't kill, just that I haven't read about it.
Capone, not a Mafia don, killed twice before he was 21, precipitating his flight to Chicago. There he killed with his own hands only once--a small timer who'd slapped around his bosom buddy Jake Guzik. He baseball-batted Scalise, Anselmi and Giunta, but they were finished off by Accardo and McGurn.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: JCrusher]
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01/01/12 02:37 PM
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John Gotti had allegedly killed several people but all unconfirmed, like Tommy Desimone he apparently did that himself and did it slowly, (also read tommy agro killed him tho), John Favara he apparently chainsawed this poor guy after he returned from Florida (he was kept alive until he returned), Vito Borelli was apparently killed by John Gotti but on the Word of Joe Massino who by the way Gotti had called a "punk" and lol "a hungry whale swallowing anything he can get" so you never know... I also read that John had got iggy alogna to try and get Louis Dibono alive and bring him back to him, to which he would have certainly killed him himself - theres likely more but cant think, hungover Tommy Agro killed tommy and agro was acting on orders from gotti since gotti was a captain. John favara was ordered to die by gotti but gotti went to florida during the killing this way he would have an alibi. Louie Dibono was killed in his car by Charlies Carneglia Well nobody knows when Favara was actually killed as the body was never found, so it is possible he was kept alive until Gotti returned... Gotti had a alibi for the time favara was kidnapped but killed I dunno... I think gotti is the type of guy that would wanna do this himself... Desimone I'd say you are right Tommy Agro killed Desimones older brother (rat fuck), and bragged that "maybe it's time to go for the Desimone Trifecta" which would suggest he killed Tommy too as well as plotting the death or the other brother left alive... But remember Desimone killed 2 of john gotti's close associates William Devino (Billy Batts) and Ronald Foxy Jerothe without the OK...something hot headed gotti would probably like to handle himself... also take into consideration that you can either believe one rat (Joe Dogs Iannuzzi) or the other (henry hill) - I think Gotti actually gave the Dibono hit to Pat Conte who could not get him, I also said that John Gotti had got Iggy Alogna "to try" and bring dibono back alive (he refused to show up for meetings, insulting gotti) however this was very difficult as Dibono moved constantly around New York and New Jersey and was continually evading the mobsters trying to find him... Then they got word he had work at the world trade center -Kevin Mcmahon was driving Bobby Boreillo was on look out and Charlie Carneglia walked up to Dibono and shot him 7 times (4 in the head) - all as I am saying as there are several sources of information and all of them come from informants, for example look at the Iceman (Richard Kuklinski)- this asshole claims he's killed everyone you can fuckin think of - Roy Demeo, Carmine Galante, Paul Castellano cant even remember all the shit he says he done that he clearly did not - I aint saying he aint a killer...just that he has took credit for more famous killings that he had fuck all to do with....
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: gemini_killer]
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01/01/12 03:13 PM
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JCrusher
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John Gotti had allegedly killed several people but all unconfirmed, like Tommy Desimone he apparently did that himself and did it slowly, (also read tommy agro killed him tho), John Favara he apparently chainsawed this poor guy after he returned from Florida (he was kept alive until he returned), Vito Borelli was apparently killed by John Gotti but on the Word of Joe Massino who by the way Gotti had called a "punk" and lol "a hungry whale swallowing anything he can get" so you never know... I also read that John had got iggy alogna to try and get Louis Dibono alive and bring him back to him, to which he would have certainly killed him himself - theres likely more but cant think, hungover Tommy Agro killed tommy and agro was acting on orders from gotti since gotti was a captain. John favara was ordered to die by gotti but gotti went to florida during the killing this way he would have an alibi. Louie Dibono was killed in his car by Charlies Carneglia Well nobody knows when Favara was actually killed as the body was never found, so it is possible he was kept alive until Gotti returned... Gotti had a alibi for the time favara was kidnapped but killed I dunno... I think gotti is the type of guy that would wanna do this himself... Desimone I'd say you are right Tommy Agro killed Desimones older brother (rat fuck), and bragged that "maybe it's time to go for the Desimone Trifecta" which would suggest he killed Tommy too as well as plotting the death or the other brother left alive... But remember Desimone killed 2 of john gotti's close associates William Devino (Billy Batts) and Ronald Foxy Jerothe without the OK...something hot headed gotti would probably like to handle himself... also take into consideration that you can either believe one rat (Joe Dogs Iannuzzi) or the other (henry hill) - I think Gotti actually gave the Dibono hit to Pat Conte who could not get him, I also said that John Gotti had got Iggy Alogna "to try" and bring dibono back alive (he refused to show up for meetings, insulting gotti) however this was very difficult as Dibono moved constantly around New York and New Jersey and was continually evading the mobsters trying to find him... Then they got word he had work at the world trade center -Kevin Mcmahon was driving Bobby Boreillo was on look out and Charlie Carneglia walked up to Dibono and shot him 7 times (4 in the head) - all as I am saying as there are several sources of information and all of them come from informants, for example look at the Iceman (Richard Kuklinski)- this asshole claims he's killed everyone you can fuckin think of - Roy Demeo, Carmine Galante, Paul Castellano cant even remember all the shit he says he done that he clearly did not - I aint saying he aint a killer...just that he has took credit for more famous killings that he had fuck all to do with.... I understand what you are saying. I'm not trying to discredit you in any way. I agree that gotti is a murderer. I'm just saying that I have read a lot of infor on gotti and he ordered many killings but he himself said that he wasn't a guy who carried guns. True i dont know what happened to favara but remember when he was abuducted he was shot so it isn't very liekly he lived too long after that especially since gotti was in florida for a few days. Tommy agro was close to desimone as you said he killed his brother so it made sense for him to kill him. Gotti enevr really neede to personally kill anybody because he was a captain pretty much right after he got made
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: JCrusher]
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01/01/12 04:15 PM
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gemini_killer
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“Don't carry a gun. It's nice to have them close by, but don't carry them. You might get arrested.” you mean that quote by John Gotti, well I guess your right since he says he dont carry guns we should believe him... isnt this the guy who says "me, I know when to keep my fuckin mouth shut" while being taped? and as you said he never really "needed" to kill anyone - but did... I dont believe for one second that John Gotti never killed anyone himself since he became captain.. and as far as favara taking a 22 slug to the ass and hit with a bat (all unconfirmed) and not being able to survive for 2 days is bs...we will just agree to disagree my friend... I do think it would be risky to keep a guy for 2+ days for Gotti to come home but it has been done.... William Action Jackson lasted 3 days hanging from a hook up his ass and getting all sorts done to him...
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: JCrusher]
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01/01/12 04:34 PM
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I never once said How do you know?, but your right I don't know - I've got my opinion and you got yours pal, and all due respect but unless your uncle and his buddies were street guys then they don't know either.... you seem pretty one sided about this so as I did actually say "we will agree to disagree" my friend 
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From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
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Re: Huge Mob Figures who Never Pulled the Trigger.
[Re: JCrusher]
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01/01/12 04:52 PM
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gemini_killer
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I was never nasty buddy, you got it all wrong ... why dont you show me where I was nasty to you? if so I will apologize ...come on I understand what you are saying perfectly I just don't agree with you ...If you mean nasty by my use foul language when describing the mob then I'll stop ...no problem, I don't want any problems with you guy - I'm a new member with a big mouth  relax
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White
You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
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but then when ya can have things done why not set and watch ! 
