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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #623253
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It's a common misunderstanding that the law prevents a spouse from testifying against a spouse. It only allows a sppuse the priviledge of not testifying unless there are mitigating circumstances.

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DO you still have this book, can't find it anywhere,

It was recently released in paperback under the new title "Boardwalk Gangster."

I guess the author is trying to capitalize on the success of "Boardwalk Empire."

Here's the Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Boardwalk-Gangster-Real-Lucky-Luciano/dp/1250002648


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #623492
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How, if necessary, is the Commodore's murder going to be explained?

Jimmy's incest with his mother was disgusting enough. But were ya'll creeped out as much as me when his mother carried Jimmy's son upstairs, stopped, and said something like "they all grow up someday"?


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: olivant] #623507
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Originally Posted By: olivant
How, if necessary, is the Commodore's murder going to be explained?

Jimmy's incest with his mother was disgusting enough. But were ya'll creeped out as much as me when his mother carried Jimmy's son upstairs, stopped, and said something like "they all grow up someday"?


Yes, he needs to get his son and himself away from her. AND after that comment she told Jimmy as she's holding the baby, "I'll be upstairs." I took it as an invitation for him to join her. So disgusting!! panic


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #623513
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Originally Posted By: olivant
How, if necessary, is the Commodore's murder going to be explained?

Jimmy's incest with his mother was disgusting enough. But were ya'll creeped out as much as me when his mother carried Jimmy's son upstairs, stopped, and said something like "they all grow up someday"?


Yes, he needs to get his son and himself away from her. AND after that comment she told Jimmy as she's holding the baby, "I'll be upstairs." I took it as an invitation for him to join her. So disgusting!! panic


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Yeah Gillian is a piece of work. I think that it was an invitation. Again she was messed up from day one. She has no boundaries. Raped by a man old enough to be her father (grandfather??), passed around other men and then makes a living as a "showgirl". It doesn't excuse her behavior but it does provide context. Sex is how she communicates and controls. I also think the college flashback showed she was frightened of losing Jimmy-whether it was to Angela or the professor was immaterial.

Edit: Commodore will have closed casket funeral and be listed as complications from his stroke..


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Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #623537
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i bet the commodore will be cremated. and, did anybody pick up the line about jimmy saying he wanted to 'stab the kaiser in the gut'? a really good foreshadowing there.

Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #623660
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Sex is how she communicates and controls.


Isn't that pretty much what all women do? shhh


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Sonny_Black] #624214
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Fucking hardcore!


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #624215
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He reenlisted? How weak an explanation! Margaret knew immediately. Being a spouse is a two edged sword.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: olivant] #624216
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Originally Posted By: olivant
He reenlisted? How weak an explanation! Margaret knew immediately.


Reminded me of the end of "GOdfather Part I". Mike lied to Kay and the door between them was closed.


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Since, contrary to his usual habit Jimmy was unarmed do we think that he knew/accepted what was going to happen? As did Richard?

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Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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At first I thought Jimmy really wanted to make amends with Nucky, but I think in the end he did know he was gonna get killed. His last moments with his son seemed meaningful to him. And, I think he wanted to die, thanks to his sicko disgusting mom. mad


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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
At first I thought Jimmy really wanted to make amends with Nucky, but I think in the end he did know he was gonna get killed. His last moments with his son seemed meaningful to him. And, I think he wanted to die, thanks to his sicko disgusting mom.


You're right, TIS. Jimmy was ready to die once it was assured the Colonel's estate would go to Jimmy, and then Jimmy's son in the event Jimmy died.


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I wonder how Jimmy's mom will take it AND I feel for Jimmy's son if he's stuck with her. mad And, I am not trusting Margaret.

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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #624225
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What happens when Nucky finds out what Margaret did with the land? What else is in her name?


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Oli,

Didn't Nucky tell Margaret last episode that he wanted to put the land in her name? confused Not quite sure what to make of that but she's acting suspicious.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #624227
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Oli,

Didn't Nucky tell Margaret last episode that he wanted to put the land in her name? confused Not quite sure what to make of that but she's acting suspicious.


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That may not be all he turned over to her. She knows he killed Jimmy and she's one of his chickens that's come home to roost.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #624228
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The land that Nucky put in Margaret's name was in case he had been indicted on the charges against him. It was to assure the government just couldn't take the land without Nucky's family getting any benefit. That was the land that they were celebrating at the end of the episode (upon which a new highway was to be built, making them all very rich men).


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: SC] #624231
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Is that the deed that Margaret was signing then? confused All I saw is that it said Land deed



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Yes.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: olivant] #624250
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it was sad seeing jimmy getting whacked, but this it is expected when you attempt to kill off two men and fail at it. how long will it be for season 3 to start?

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I've written before that I really don't like the Margaret character and this episode just made me dislike her even more. She's not stupid. She knows what Nucky is and what he does. She has chosen to be with him.

Asking him questions about why he was out and where he was forces him to lie. He lies well of course, being Nucky, but still. Did she really want him to say
"Yeah, I was out late. I personally put two bullets in the head of my surrogate son. He had it coming though. What's for breakfast, hon?"

And presumably confessing her and Nucky's sins to the priest but neglecting to let Nucky know she slept with his bodyguard is foul. What's worse is signing over Nucky's property to the church. She may see herself as conscientious but I see her the way her brother did-just as big of a phony as anybody else-worse in some respects because she uses religion to try to make other people feel guilty.

Is Nucky (the character, not the real life version) now a full fledged gangster? He's ordered and committed murder personally. And yet he gave his brother a pass.

The Gillian character finally managed to come across as sympathetic when she noticed that her grandson had Jimmy's dog tags and what that meant.


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Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Terence Winter Interview

He says the scene with Jimmy and Gillian was necessary.
Also states that Richard will be back for season 3.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Great dramatic ending, great season, although I'm left with an indifferent feeling about how some things played out. Didn't see it comming that Nucky would pull the trigger himself, pretty hardcore indeed. But Jimmy had fucked things up really bad and asked for it. I also thought for a moment that Jimmy would have his mother killed after he left.

But that Nucky gives his deceiving brother a pass? They probably need him for another season so he could betray everyone again...

And I don't like it that Horvitz get's away with killing an innocent woman. I thought he would be killed right after Jimmy. But I guess Nucky really has no morals whatsoever, he's a classic sociopath.


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i wonder if we will see jimmy next season in dream state or flashback...like in the sopranos

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Personally I liked the Darmady charactor and hate to see it go. His wife should end up breathing dirt in my opinion. So who do you tink is going to take over the neimisis role that Jimmy had. Will Vanalden come back and if so how? and for what reason.

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Originally Posted By: joey_dice
Will Vanalden come back and if so how? and for what reason.


It'll be interesting to see what happens with van Alden. He and his "baby-sitter" moved to Cicero. Could that be Cicero, Illinois? That was later to become a stronghold for Al Capone.


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Will Vanalden come back and if so how? and for what reason.


It'll be interesting to see what happens with van Alden. He and his "baby-sitter" moved to Cicero. Could that be Cicero, Illinois? That was later to become a stronghold for Al Capone.


i believe so. the woman who was renting it out said the midwest. also too there is a rumor that season three will start in the year 1923. season two started and ended 1921.

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It'll be interesting to see what happens with van Alden. He and his "baby-sitter" moved to Cicero. Could that be Cicero, Illinois? That was later to become a stronghold for Al Capone.


i believe so. the woman who was renting it out said the midwest.


There are other midwestern states (besides Illinois) that have towns named Cicero, but I'm betting it was Illinois. Cicero was to become one of the most crooked towns in the country (if not THE most crooked one) and that would leave it open for van Alden to go the dark side.


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It'll be interesting to see what happens with van Alden. He and his "baby-sitter" moved to Cicero. Could that be Cicero, Illinois? That was later to become a stronghold for Al Capone.


i believe so. the woman who was renting it out said the midwest.


There are other midwestern states (besides Illinois) that have towns named Cicero, but I'm betting it was Illinois. Cicero was to become one of the most crooked towns in the country (if not THE most crooked one) and that would leave it open for van Alden to go the dark side.


i need to check out the history of cicero then. but, yea i doubt it's in indiana or wisconsin.

and, i have no clue who would pose a threat to nucky next season. eli will be in jail (or just released if they will jump ahead a year or two). richard could pose a threat if he stays around atlantic city. but, i could see owen posing a threat to nucky, either to be with margaret or to protect his life. really though i could see a new character coming in either to pose a threat or help nucky out.

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