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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #623959
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IF the Dems are smart (and sometimes I wonder), they'll push on the medicare/SS Ryan plan issue. It WON'T sit well with seniors and truly, I don't think a lot of people are paying attention at this point. With Romney endorsing Ryan's plan, it benefits the Ds on this issue.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #623970
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
IF the Dems are smart (and sometimes I wonder), they'll push on the medicare/SS Ryan plan issue. It WON'T sit well with seniors and truly, I don't think a lot of people are paying attention at this point. With Romney endorsing Ryan's plan, it benefits the Ds on this issue.

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Absolutely, and they're planning to do that. Romney was (initially) smart to try to avoid being directly connected with that hated plan, and would've worked if he had coasted to the nomination by default. If not for those meddling Republicans. Now forced by Newt, he's forced to try to run to the right, when its absolutely against his strategy for next fall.

The problem is if Romney has the well-earned reputation of shameless calculated pandering to the party base of what he thinks they want to hear, Newt from his (big) gut tells them exactly what they want to hear. He knows how to talk to that media. I mean try watchin that interview The Newt did with that Jewish group over Israel. Romney can promise his first oversee Presidential trip will be to Tel Aviv*, Newt promsies the fucking Book of Revelations.

I wonder how the debate tonight (yes another goddamn debate) will fare. Romney failed to throw a knock-out at Newt at the last debate, in fact got slapped a little bit for defending the hated NCLB big government fail. He's going to have to attack Newt, which could backfire. He's got no choice.

*=Hey UK, fuck you!

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*Facepalm*

Mr. Obama, run with this!

GOP leadership blocks congressional insider-trading ban

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As Politico reports, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Spencer Bachus, who had been pushing the bill, was called into Eric Cantor’s office and told in no uncertain terms to make sure the bill was killed.

Bachus has dutifully done his master’s bidding.

Bachus, an Alabama Republican, had been skewered by a recent “60 Minutes” investigation that documented how he used information culled from high-level congressional meetings during the ‘08 financial crisis to make tens of thousands of dollars in profits. The so-called STOCK bill — Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge — was to have been his redemption.


http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/20...er-trading-ban/

EDIT - more bad news for Mittens.

Quinnipiac - Ohio

Newt 55%
Romney 28%

Quinnipiac - Pennsylvania

Newt 50%
Romney 31%

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #623979
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This is pretty disturbing. Ron Paul said Republicans acted with glee after 911. frown

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/09/ron-paul-bush-administration-felt-glee-after-911/


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #623982
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
This is pretty disturbing. Ron Paul said Republicans acted with glee after 911. frown

TIS

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/09/ron-paul-bush-administration-felt-glee-after-911/

That's hateful and horrible, Tis. Bush was a lot of things, but to imply that he was happy about the attacks is just wrong. Paul is a clown.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624020
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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624040
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From reading the blog commentaries, it seems the story of this debate so far was Newt slapping Mittens down with that insult: “the only reason you didn’t become a career politician is because you lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994.”

Then Mittens quips back: “And if I’d made it into the NFL when I was a kid then I would’ve been a career football player over my life.”Really? If Newt is offering red meat, Mittens is offering Tofu. (Eat! It'll be good for you.)

Then Perry/Romney, Perry attacks him for re-writing his book and whitewashing his previous support for the individual mandate. The exchange:

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Perry: I’m just saying, you’re for it.
Romney: I’ve got the book. I’ll bet you $10,000.
Perry: I’m not a betting man.


I wish I had $10,000 in pocket change to toss out for a lame mundane bet. Most Americans would to.

EDIT - Of course Mormons don't supposedly believe in gambling. Unless a Texas Governor calls you a liar, then it's ok to offer a bet. But that won't be what will be reported tomorrow.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624042
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Santorum's Fact of the Day: Did you know that America had NO allies against the Soviet Union?

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624043
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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624045
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I missed a good part of the clown show but from what I've seen, is it just me or did Perry NOT mess up as badly this time? lol Who will get the poll bounce?


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They are discussing that $10,000 bet right now. Consensus is it will not be good for Romney. Surprised? I mean really, who has 10gs to bet. Romney reminds me (looks-wise) as a political George Hamilton. lol

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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I missed a good part of the clown show but from what I've seen, is it just me or did Perry NOT mess up as badly this time? lol Who will get the poll bounce?


Perry did better. The fact that he made Mittens look stupid, not the other way around, was awesome.


Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette


They are discussing that $10,000 bet right now. Consensus is it will not be good for Romney. Surprised? I mean really, who has 10gs to bet. Romney reminds me (looks-wise) as a political George Hamilton. lol


Hey now, at least Mr. Hamilton has some dignity. lol

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624047
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RR,

I can just see the next Romney ad (put out by either Dems or Rs). It'll show him making that bet comment, along with the picture of him with money hanging out of his clothes. lol You just know it's gonna happen.


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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
RR,

I can just see the next Romney ad (put out by either Dems or Rs). It'll show him making that bet comment, along with the picture of him with money hanging out of his clothes. lol You just know it's gonna happen.


TIS


Oh it's already happening. Huntsman's campaign has just announced they're buying the domain web-name "www.10kBet.com"

And the Democrats released this shortly afterwards too:

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In tonight’s Iowa Debate Mitt Romney casually offered a $10,000 bet, after calling a $1,500 tax break for the middle class a band-aid. Mitt Romney may not know what $10,000 means to middle class families, but here’s what the average American family can buy with $10,000:

$10,000 Is More Than Four Months Pay For Most Americans (Median Income Was $26,197 in 2010) [Census.gov, accessed 12/10/11] $10,000 Is More Than The Average Public In-State Four-Year College Tuition ($8,244) [CollegeBoard, accessed 12/10/11] $10,000 Is Almost Three Times What The Average Family Spends On Groceries In A Year ($3624) [BLS.gov, accessed 12/10/11] $10,000 Would Cover More Than A Year’s Worth Of Mortgage Payments For The Typical American Home Purchased Today ($8,376) [National Association of Realtors, 10/6/11]

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624050
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I read (On TPM I think) that "what can $10,000 buy" is trending on twitter. lol GOP has to be cringing if Newt's their man.

lol

TIS

Listening to Current tv (the only channel that has analysis yet), they are giving it to Newt.

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624193
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Wow he's desperate.

Romney recruits Anne Coulter

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/1...?ref=fpnewsfeed

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624196
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LOL, First she says, "we'll get Romney and then we'll lose" and now it's "go Romney?" Yea that's the epitome of desperate all right. lol The guy got St. Gov. Christie's endorsement and that hasn't helped him, so Ann will? lol It IS getting interesting though.



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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #624197
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
LOL, First she says, "we'll get Romney and then we'll lose" and now it's "go Romney?" Yea that's the epitome of desperate all right. lol The guy got St. Gov. Christie's endorsement and that hasn't helped him, so Ann will? lol It IS getting interesting though.



TIS


Especially funny since Mittens last night called Newt an impulsive toxic mouth, which is true. But that applies as well to Anne.

First Glenn Beck calling Newt's supporters racist, I wonder how Anne can top that?

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And to add to this clown carnival show, Santorum wants Palin's support lol It just keeps getting better. lol


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http://www.omaha.com/article/20111205/NEWS01/712059914/1026120


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Several NBC polls came out today.

South Carolina - GOP

Newt 42%
Romney 23%

Florida - GOP

Newt 44%
Romney 29%

Florida

Obama 48%
Romney 41%

Obama 51%
Newt 39%

South Carolina

Obama 45%
Romney 42%

Obama 46%
Newt 42%

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The gift that keeps on giving for him.

Arab League condemns Newt

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_poli...stinian_remark/

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LMAO

Rasmussen: GOP sees Newt as most electable candidate

Newt - 49%
Romney - 24%

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #624385
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The GOP shouldn't even bother showing up next year. Unless the European economy completely shits the bed, slowing the recovery over here, they have zero chance of winning.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
The GOP shouldn't even bother showing up next year. Unless the European economy completely shits the bed, slowing the recovery over here, they have zero chance of winning.


Two months ago Obama was a dead man walking. Now he is the inevitable winner. We still have almost a year to go and that is forever. This thing could swing back and forth a dozen more times...and NOTA BENE I remain unconvinced our true enemy has yet to show his face......the GOP nominee may well not be in this field, and we could have a brokered convention.
I don't know what impact the bad news in Europe will have except if they go into the tank, and we follow everyone is going to blame "those Europeans."


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: dontomasso] #624391
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
and we follow everyone is going to blame "those Europeans."

Well, that's because it's their fault tongue.


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Opps.

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Another audience member questioned the candidate about Santorum awarding former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky with the Angels in Adoption Award. Santorum explained that he lacked knowledge of the situation at the time and noted that the award has since been withdrawn.

In response to his explanation, the audience member asked, "So we shouldn't trust Obama with our kids, but we can trust you?"


http://www.northern-iowan.org/santorum-argues-for-return-to-past-ways-1.2682292#.TuYtp4VmQjx

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This is so stupid, yet it might actually work. Especially in these primaries. See I'm smart for opting for Spanish back in high school instead.


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LOL Is that really him speaking? lol Nice try Mitt!




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Newt: The Evangelicals' Catholic

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/10...elical-darling/

EDIT - the Huntsman/Newt Lincoln/Douglas-stylized debate happened today in NH, and apparently nothing notable really happened. Neither was hurt by it, though if this was covered (it won't be), Huntsman could claim moral victory for standing up to the front-runner while Mittens pussied out.

Summary:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-gingrich-huntsman-lincoln-douglas-debate-20111212,0,6656850.story

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