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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: Little_Frankie]
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12/09/11 06:13 AM
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That makes me think Ivy, has their been any legal precedent of people being successful in suing informants after sentences served for harm or murder against relatives? With or without WIt Protection, any success?
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: Little_Frankie]
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No, I thought Son of Sam just kept murderers from profiting off story.
With or without book deal, regardless, have Witness Protection informants ever been successfully sued by victim's relatives?
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: Nicholas]
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No, I thought Son of Sam just kept murderers from profiting off story.
With or without book deal, regardless, have Witness Protection informants ever been successfully sued by victim's relatives? I remember hearing that the suit against Gravano made significant headway after his Ecstasy conviction, but I can't remember from where.
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: IvyLeague]
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12/10/11 02:22 PM
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No, I thought Son of Sam just kept murderers from profiting off story.
With or without book deal, regardless, have Witness Protection informants ever been successfully sued by victim's relatives? Maybe but I can't think of any off the top of my head. I think he means a civil suit similar to the one the Goldmans filed against O.J. And I can't think of any, either.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: pizzaboy]
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No, I thought Son of Sam just kept murderers from profiting off story.
With or without book deal, regardless, have Witness Protection informants ever been successfully sued by victim's relatives? Maybe but I can't think of any off the top of my head. I think he means a civil suit similar to the one the Goldmans filed against O.J. And I can't think of any, either. Wait...didn't the Goldmans end up with money from "If I Did It"? Was that from a court case?
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
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12/10/11 07:42 PM
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Maybe but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
I think he means a civil suit similar to the one the Goldmans filed against O.J. And I can't think of any, either. [/quote] Exactly that. And speaking of OJ, I had forgotten about that fuckin' book he wrote. Damn, I read the subplot on wiki, can't believe that shit, what balls on that guy.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
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What a serious douchebag......the guy rats on everybody, goes to Arizona and wants to set up the Arizona mafia family lol
And guys from NYC are supplying him pills.
That just tells you how much credibility these informants have and what they are willing to do to save their neck.
LA COSA NOSTRA MY ASS......it's all about the dollar. I am with you ! Alot of people don't like John Gotti Sr. either, but the man went to prison , kept his mouth shut and died thar. The turn informant and rat people they they don't like or rivals, thus eliminating them. But they rarely rat on potential mob candidates and that's why even though Massino and Vitale went RICO, the organization continues to operate. Basically the government makes a deal with the devil to get a few guys prosecuted in court and some wiseguy takes advantage of the situation and moves to Arizona and start selling books about his life. Both the government and these worthless informants are disgusting. Gravano who killed so many people was able to rebuild his life and start living in luxury again while other people lost loved ones. Im glad he's rotting in jail
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: Frosty]
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12/12/11 01:13 PM
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What a serious douchebag......the guy rats on everybody, goes to Arizona and wants to set up the Arizona mafia family lol
And guys from NYC are supplying him pills.
That just tells you how much credibility these informants have and what they are willing to do to save their neck.
LA COSA NOSTRA MY ASS......it's all about the dollar. I am with you ! Alot of people don't like John Gotti Sr. either, but the man went to prison , kept his mouth shut and died thar. gotti also got over on the govt by only having to do like 10 yrs in jail on his life sentence lol
I hate Dicknoses!!!!!!
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: phatmatress]
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What a serious douchebag......the guy rats on everybody, goes to Arizona and wants to set up the Arizona mafia family lol
And guys from NYC are supplying him pills.
That just tells you how much credibility these informants have and what they are willing to do to save their neck.
LA COSA NOSTRA MY ASS......it's all about the dollar. I am with you ! Alot of people don't like John Gotti Sr. either, but the man went to prison , kept his mouth shut and died thar. gotti also got over on the govt by only having to do like 10 yrs in jail on his life sentence lol Even in jail the Dapper Don was defiant "You will get an ass kicking from me you will never forget" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSFydrV9dN0"Do you want us to cut his tongue out of his mouth?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=WZ2m9RmYeXothere was another vid where Gotti was like "You know why im jail, it took them $50 million dollars, and 10 lying rats that killed 100 people to put me in here" something like that
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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: Dapper_Don]
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12/12/11 02:19 PM
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Even in jail the Dapper Don was defiant When you're doing life, all you have left is defiance, Dap. I thought Gotti was cafone and a lout, and I can honestly say that I felt early on (by 1986 or 1987) that the Feds weren't going to rest until they got him. But, he did believe in what he believed in, and you can't take that away from him. I'll credit him for that if nothing else.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: eurodave]
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12/12/11 02:23 PM
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What a serious douchebag......the guy rats on everybody, goes to Arizona and wants to set up the Arizona mafia family lol
And guys from NYC are supplying him pills.
That just tells you how much credibility these informants have and what they are willing to do to save their neck.
LA COSA NOSTRA MY ASS......it's all about the dollar. I am with you ! Alot of people don't like John Gotti Sr. either, but the man went to prison , kept his mouth shut and died thar. The turn informant and rat people they they don't like or rivals, thus eliminating them. But they rarely rat on potential mob candidates and that's why even though Massino and Vitale went RICO, the organization continues to operate. Basically the government makes a deal with the devil to get a few guys prosecuted in court and some wiseguy takes advantage of the situation and moves to Arizona and start selling books about his life. Both the government and these worthless informants are disgusting. Gravano who killed so many people was able to rebuild his life and start living in luxury again while other people lost loved ones. Im glad he's rotting in jail Yes, Gotti didn't flip. Although I'd argue he may have been on the one guy the government would never make a deal with anyhow. They wanted him behind bars in the worst way. And, in any event, Gotti's leadership style did as much - if not more - damage than if he had turned rat. Making everyone show up at the Ravenite on a weekly basis, right in front of FBI surveillance. Talking about family business, including multiple murders, for hours while being taped. As somebody once said, Gotti was the mouth that roared.
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: IvyLeague]
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12/12/11 02:25 PM
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And, in any event, Gotti's leadership style did as much - if not more - damage than if he had turned rat. Making everyone show up at the Ravenite on a weekly basis, right in front of FBI surveillance. Talking about family business, including multiple murders, for hours while being taped. As somebody once said, Gotti was the mouth that roared. Ahh, my like-minded friend from Utah. Exactly.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: pizzaboy]
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12/12/11 02:45 PM
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And, in any event, Gotti's leadership style did as much - if not more - damage than if he had turned rat. Making everyone show up at the Ravenite on a weekly basis, right in front of FBI surveillance. Talking about family business, including multiple murders, for hours while being taped. As somebody once said, Gotti was the mouth that roared. Ahh, my like-minded friend from Utah. Exactly. I will take the bounce on this one, I have to agree . 
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Re: Sammy Gravano Diane Sawyer interview
[Re: capo16]
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12/16/11 07:51 AM
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Thanks man I've been looking for this forever. I have no remorse for his victims families because most of the guys he killed were killers them self's other then the cement union guy and his own brother-in-law.
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