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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #622833
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Due to suffering from good taste, Ron Paul (along w/ Huntsman) won't be attending the Donald Trump-moderated debate.

(How many fucking more debates?!?)

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Never mind how many more debates.... why is Donald Trump still involved with any of this crap? Why can't he just go away?


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Originally Posted By: SC
Never mind how many more debates.... why is Donald Trump still involved with any of this crap? Why can't he just go away?


It's obvious. All this time, Newt and Trump have been lovers.

(What you think that "meeting" is about? Wink wink nudge nudge. Now you can vomit thanks to that image.)

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Herman Cain wanted to be the very best, like no one ever was, but his quest to catch 'em all ended on Saturday.

The businessman and GOP presidential candidate stepped aside from the race on Saturday, bowing to falling polling numbers and growing sex scandal-related controversy. It was a sad moment for the conservatives who backed him, but a happy one for many video game and anime fans, as during his announcement, he finally admitted that he had been quoting Pokémon during various other speeches.

"I believe these words came from the Pokémon movie. I’m not sure who the original author is, so don’t go write an article about the poet, but it says a lot about where I am– where I am with my wife and my family, and where we are as a nation," Cain said. "Life can be a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It's never easy when there's so much on the line. But you and I can make a difference. There's a mission just for you and me."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/03/herman-cain-quotes-pokemon_n_1127221.html?ref=mostpopular


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I believe that Ron Paul and Huntsman declined the Trump debate/reality show. What an embarrassment if there was a debate and nobody showed up. lol



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Originally Posted By: SC
Never mind how many more debates.... why is Donald Trump still involved with any of this crap? Why can't he just go away?
AMEN ! This hairball should go away , all he is doing is confusing the bastards even more.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #622877
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Well that explains it.

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Other interesting bits of information pointed out by Talking Points Memo: Newt isn’t the most likeable according to poll respondents (8 percent), but he is considered by far the most experienced and knowledgeable candidate (58 percent).

Gingrich’s longtime habit of comparing himself to large historical figures also seems to be paying off. He easily won the question about which candidate is the most like Ronald Reagan.


Newt did end communism.

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/12/04/newt_gingrich_leads_in_latest_iowa_poll.html

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Reports circulating that Cain will endorse Newt.

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Reports circulating that Cain will endorse Newt.


Maybe he's hoping for a VP spot. confused Yikes!!!

Btw, has anyone accepted the debate moderated by Trump?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #622924
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Newt did. Dont' know about the rest.

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Local N.H. newspaper political cartoon - circa 1968. (or 2011?)

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111204/OPINION01/712049983/-1/opinion

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It's official: Cain will endorse Newt tomorrow.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69765.html

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Ron Paul has been banned from wednesday's GOP forum hosted by the Republican Jewish Coalition for being "Too Extreme." Why?

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Paul has downplayed the implications of Iran gaining a nuclear weapon to the point of drawing a moral equivalency between that prospect and Israel having nuclear weapons. He has advocated ending foreign aid to Israel and has criticized military aid to Israel. Paul has also suggested the U.S. was at fault for the 9/11 attacks and that if America should withdraw its forces from the Middle East, terrorist groups such as Al Qaida would leave it alone.

Commentary Magazine compared Paul's views on Israel in particular and foreign policy in general to those of the "America First" isolationists during the 1930s and 1940s who admired Nazi Germany and were deaf to the fate of American Jews. Paul is like those who restrained America's reaction to the Nazi Holocaust, in its view.


Quite frankly, whether one thinks of Mr. Paul's foreign policy views (which range from principled anti-imperialism to naive reactionarism to independent critical thinking) they do not equate the systematic despot-driven extermination and genocidal murder of millions of minorities and dissidents.

Banning someone from your political party's public debate because his views "offend" you? All those assclowns "offend" me, but I wouldn't ban them. Jesus I don't remember any Democratic primary debates pulling such a stunt (even with Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson) to my knowledge.

Regardless if they had or not, this is stupid. No, this is retarded. The GOP applauds itself for standing up for the Constitution, by wiping their ass with it.

(Conspiracy Talk Time: Are people behind the scenes trying to squash the supposed potent (if minority) Paul support in Iowa that could theaten Newt or Mittens? Or is this just blunt ideological orthodoxy policing?)

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #622987
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It's blunt ideological policing. Paul would not likely be the nominee anyway-too old and too rigid in his thinking. But he does seemingly take ideas seriously. This shunning is not really aimed at Paul-he's used to it by now. It's aimed at the next person that comes up talking like Paul does.


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As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #622993
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GOP's anti-Newt chorus holds its tongue

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But now Coburn – who declared a year ago that Gingrich is “the last person I’d vote for for president” and lacks the character to lead the nation — offers a brisk no comment when approached.

Former Rep. Bill Paxon, who sought to overthrow Gingrich, says he’d rather not revisit the past. Even Armey, the former majority leader under Gingrich turned fierce rival, has an aide say they’re “keeping quiet on Newt, for now.”



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69750.html

Mitt's Media Blowback

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“I get the calculation they’re making,” Todd said. “Do they want to go through the constant, ‘Well, you said this, but then you said this’? Maybe they don’t want to do that. My guess is at some point they’re going to wish they did, but they are making the decision not to.”

That point may be now. One month out from the Iowa caucuses, with Gingrich breaking through in the polls, the media beast is growing increasingly restless and no longer feels the need to take Romney’s dismissiveness in stride.

“I think the zeitgeist moment that you’re seeing this week is Romney’s strategy beginning to backfire on him,” Klein said.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69754_Page3.html#ixzz1ff0XEFVB

AP: Newt betting on South Carolina

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For three decades, the Republican who won South Carolina's presidential primary has also won the GOP nomination.

That record helps explain why Newt Gingrich, a self-described lover of history, is working more aggressively than any of his competitors to organize activists and volunteers ahead of the Jan. 21 primary, essentially pinning his candidacy on a state filled with Christian conservatives.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/arti...ea3ca396ff5393e

and Newt's first Ad in Iowa. (Mitt, I dare ya to attack me!)


Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #623006
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
It's official: Cain will endorse Newt tomorrow.

Okay, now I'll vote for him tongue rolleyes.


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"What kind of music do you listen to?"
"I like music of any kind."

If he was running for Most Awkard Guy at the high school prom, he would actually win this pretty easily.


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Donald Trump has announced he'll give his endorsement "shortly" after the GOP debate he's moderating, which only Newt and Santorum have agreed to appear. Trump and Newt also have announced plans for an APPRENTICE program for poor kids.

and much to National Review's utter horror, The Donald is beating the Birther drums again.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284917/trump-questions-obamas-birth-certificate-katrina-trinko

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DNC, in regards to your latest ad...you've done better.


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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Donald Trump has announced he'll give his endorsement "shortly" after the GOP debate he's moderating, which only Newt and Santorum have agreed to appear. Trump and Newt also have announced plans for an APPRENTICE program for poor kids.

and much to National Review's utter horror, The Donald is beating the Birther drums again.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284917/trump-questions-obamas-birth-certificate-katrina-trinko
clap I am so excited I will be holding my can of hairspray ah shit I don't have any hair. I will send it to Donnie

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Dan Quayle will endorse Romney tomorrow.

(This Potatoe will stop the Newtmentum!)

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Flip Flop Alert!

Romney now backs Obama's Payroll Tax Cut

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Mitt Romney endorses the Democratic proposal to extend the payroll tax cut he earlier derided as "like temporary little Band-Aids."

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PPP- Iowa

Gingrich 27%
Paul 18%
Romney 16%
Bachmann 13%
Perry 9%
Santorum 6%
Huntsman 4%
Johnson 1%


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The biggest revelation though is electability. 33% of respondents said Gingrich was most electable versus 23% for Romney.


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Gingrich's rise to the top is being fueled by strong support from seniors and the Tea Party. With voters over 65 he's at 37% leading Romney's 18% and Paul's 11% by 19 and 26 points respectively. With Tea Party voters Gingrich is at 35% with Bachmann actually coming in at second with 23%, Paul in third at 14%, and Romney all the way back at just 4%.


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Paul's benefiting from the lack of action on the Democratic side this year. 20% of likely caucus goers are either Democrats or independents and with them he's leading the way
with 28% to 18% for Gingrich and 13% for Romney and Bachmann. He's also very strong with younger voters, getting 23% with those under 45 to 21% for Gingrich, 16% for Bachmann, and 15% for Romney.


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When PPP polled Iowa for the first time this year in January 57% of voters had a favorable opinion of Romney to 26% with an unfavorable one. Now he's at only 49/45, representing a 27 point decline in his net favorability over the course of the year.

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I'm thinking of a word that starts with "P" and rhymes with Wussy.

Romney Runs From Another Reporter At Fox News Forum

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New York Times reporter Jim Rutenberg has relayed another embarrassing incident for Romney. Fox News allowed Rutenberg to sit backstage as Romney and several other candidates waited to participate in a forum hosted by the network's Mike Huckabee on his Saturday show. Rutenberg writes that, while Newt Gingrich chatted happily with him, Romney and his aides treated him as if he was a leper, and reacted in comically over-the-top fashion.


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Spotting the reporter, Mr. Romney’s aides sprang into action, asking where he worked and what he was doing there, and then insisting that he not physically approach Mr. Romney before or after he was questioned on television by the attorneys general and Mr. Huckabee.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/mitt-romney-media-nyt_n_1129097.html

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"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
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Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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check Blood Pressure, Pulse, and Respirations.

Just sayen ! This shit changes from day to day and what can a person do about it. But maybe have a good MI, this country right now has heart attacks walking around by the millions with no health insurance , no employement, protester's up the ass that don't know why they are out thar. And what fricken good are they doing .

Give me a MFen break.

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Oh, Donald, STFU! You are a giant blowhard with an ego the size of Montana. Nobody cares what you think. This alleged debate that you are going to monitor is going to be mighty one-sided, since so far only Newt is showing up!


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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Oh, Donald, STFU! You are a giant blowhard with an ego the size of Montana. Nobody cares what you think. This alleged debate that you are going to monitor is going to be mighty one-sided, since so far only Newt is showing up!

It's true, Trump has become a carnival barker, and the rest of the GOP has become a traveling sideshow. They don't have a single candidate that appeals to the Independent voter. And winning back the Independents (like myself and Ronnie) was their only chance.


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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Oh, Donald, STFU! You are a giant blowhard with an ego the size of Montana. Nobody cares what you think. This alleged debate that you are going to monitor is going to be mighty one-sided, since so far only Newt is showing up!

It's true, Trump has become a carnival barker, and the rest of the GOP has become a traveling sideshow. They don't have a single candidate that appeals to the Independent voter. And winning back the Independents (like myself and Ronnie) was their only chance.
AMEN !

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Mittens, after bravely consulting the party, has passed on Trump's debate. Trump surprisingly swipes back:

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“It would seem logical to me that if I was substantially behind in the polls, especially in Iowa, South Carolina, and Florida, I would be participating in the debate. But, I can also understand why Governor Romney decided not to do it.”


Mittens weakly claims he passed because of "schedule" problems. Meanwhile he's planning to appear on FNC much much more now.

Anyway the Party is now panicking and they've sent off their best hitman to take care ofNewt: Karl Rove.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/mitt-romney-has-won-the-karl-rove-primary.php?ref=fpa

NYT/CBS and ABC polls have Newt with a 10+ lead in Iowa, the same as the last few other polls.

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Among Tea Party supporters, the perception of Gingrich as the candidate best-equipped to defeat Mr. Obama is even more pronounced - 45 percent view him as having the best chances to beat Mr. Obama, compared with 19 percent for Romney.


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Gingrich, meanwhile, walks away with views that he’s got the best experience to be president: 43 percent say so, followed by a vastly lower 16 percent for Romney, 13 percent for Paul. And 29 percent pick Gingrich as having the best chance to defeat Obama. Twenty-four percent give Romney the best shot; Paul lags badly here, with just 8 percent.

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Nate Silver:

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Of the 11 competitive caucuses since 1980, the candidate leading in the polls a month in advance won them 8 times.

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