Yeah, they're going to spin it. But politics = spin.

Those reports won't mean anything anyway. Because while I agree that the economy will be a determining factor in the 2012 election, I think people will judge the economy for themselves by the size of their own bank accounts, not by what's being reported in the papers.

If it drops lower than 8.5 and if Gnewt is the nominee there won't be any moving vans at the White House in January 2013.

I hear Newt has already proclaimed himself the winner.


TIS

Indeed, he did TIS. But then again he also told all three wives "until death do we part".

That was actually funny. I've only been waiting five years .

Did Mrs. Olivant put funny pills in your oatmeal this morning?

No, but I have noticed a funny taste to my oatmeal for years now and I'm developing some numbness in different body parts (fortunately not that one).

That was a good one Oli!!

Speaking of Cain, MSNBC is reporting that he will have a MAJOR announcement tomorrow. Hmmmm I wonder what it could be?


TIS

BTW, MSNBC is reporting/confirming that on 12/27, Donald Trump will moderate the republican debate. And the Republican traveling clown show continues.

He's going to announce that he's the new spokesman for a new baldness treatment for African American men.

It's called Brogaine.

I wonder if this really has something to do with luck. It might be just all set up this way because wall street is aware that they couldn't have a better representative than Obama.

Priceless!

By the way:

December 2nd, 2011 01:12 PM ET 'Women for Cain' launched by campaign

(CNN) - Team Cain officially launched a "Women for Cain" website Friday billed as an "online national fellowship of women dedicated to helping elect Herman Cain as the next President of the United States."

If there is a visible pattern of unemployment going down and the economy generally improving, at worst you only need a half-truth to successfully spin an idea into people's heads.

(Or in other words, if your opponents have to argue with "Yes, But...", you generally tend to win that point when they're working from the defensive and conceding.)

I stopped supporting Herman Cain after he rejected my Pizza in a cup idea.

I saw that. It can't possibly be for real right?


TIS

Cain wll meet with his supporters and donors before he announces his plans. That sounds to me like he wants them to hear the bad news first.

he will announce that pizza hut is better than godfathers

Huntsman says he won't partake in the Trump debate. But he did accept a "Lincoln/Douglas-esque" debate challenge from Newt in NH. (Meanwhile Mittens declined that, but still doing the Trump debate. Really?)

EDIT - I love this headline.

Man up, Mitt! Is Romney backing down from debating Newt?

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/general-factotum/2011/dec/2/man-mitt/

Kathleen Parker:



http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/w...rWMO_story.html

Oh you've got to be fucking with me.

Romney: Newt is a flip-flopper

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69494.html

EDIT - Is Newt the second coming of George Wallace?

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2011/12/mitt-vs-newt-now-its-a-real-race.html

As expected...

Herman Cain suspends presidential campaign

Here,here!

Gee. I'm sooooo shocked to hear this.

If I were Cain, I'd crawl into a hole and stay there for a few years.

I just feel sorry for the guy's wife. Seriously.

Signor V.

I do too SV, especially considering the length of their marriage. I don't care if she suspected knew, or didn't know, HE's he one at fault. It only makes it worse that it's publicized all over the media now.


TIS

He dropped out of the campaign for two reasons:

1) to avoid confronting future claims from women

2) his financing was drying up

3) Brogaine. A LICENSE TO PRINT MONEY!!!

You know something just came up. Last week, allegedly Perry's campaign was running out of money. Say as he's doing now, he does dismal polling at Iowa or NH, he drops out...who benefits? Not Mittens.

Did I hear my ears correctly? Did this GOP debate just seriously propose to defund the G.I. Bill?

I would say we had better start hanging on to our underwear and socks. This country is in sorry ass shape . And it is not going to get better. All of these genius politians have NO idea what they are doing.

Better start praying folks , this sure ain't a funny matter in any respect. And unemployment and more jobs right around Christmas hell ya, some are temps at stores. Look good Obama and Mamma , Shit ! And Congress, the Senate

Like I said , I don't trust any of them. Change all these idiots !

Yeah no kidding.

You would think the economy would be the #1 issue tonight, and these candidates would tell us the voters (primary & general) how each would solve this lousy economy.

But according to this GOP debate, nope! The most pressing issues? Constitutional amendments banning abortion and gay marriage, defunding the G.I. Bill and the EPA, passing judicial term limits, the all-important 10th Amendment, whether $130 billion is worth spending to deport every illegal immigrant in America, and whether being for the separation of church and state is un-patriotic.

Poor Ron Paul, the only guy with any sort of integrity, bravely fighting these authoratative bullies burning the Constitution in its name, calling out especially those stupid morality-driven amendments. He rightly compared them to the ill-fated Prohibition Amendment.

Funny how for a gang of guys bitching about "big" government, Paul seems to be the only one actually trying to rhetorically fight it. Huntsman was right to avoid this asshole echo chamber.

(Economy? What Economy?)