George Will takes a big steaming shit on Mittens.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/m...ry.html?hpid=z1

Key quote:



BANG!

Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) - Ron Paul has won two separate tallies for the National Federation of Republican Assemblies Presidential Straw Poll.

Paul won both the Iowa-voters-only count at the Saturday convention in Des Moines as well as a tally of non-Iowans who participated.

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Speaking of Cain, two women allege inappropriate behavior on Cain's part. The women claim they were paid off with the agreement not to talk about it. So then, they talk about it.

TIS

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html#.Tq3vFr2-aBE.twitter

I don't like Cain one bit but I guess when stuff like this pops up it shows that he is actually being taken seriously as a competitor. SH to me is the obvious classic situation when someone continually pesters someone for something or when someone makes sex or sexualized behavior a requirement of the job or when one is told "NO" but keeps on going and going and going-ie putting up "adult" material at work or using crude language, etc..

The "inappropriate comment" or "feeling uncomfortable" instances of SH kinda bothered me just because it always depends on who's saying it. If someone likes what another person is saying, game on, if not it's SH.

It seems to be a bit unfair for Politico to put information out there like this about Cain and then not print the women's names.

For some reason, this might hurt him with his general voting population image, but with the party base? I doubt it, I mean those pundits just love to rally around "victims" of liberal media persecution.

Just ask Ms. Coulter:

So is Coulter.

You know what? I have a feeling this story won't end up doing much as far as Cain's campaign goes. Unless of course, it gets worse in some way with more concrete proof. Not that I necessarily think he'll win.

I just think this is a whole new environment politically and people are just acting strange and unpredictable. Call me daft but I still think there could be a slim chance for a Perry comeback. I know, I know...just saying, it's a very strange time we live in politcally.


TIS

Well as Herman Cain would say "If you're falsely accused of sexually harassing someone don't cry about it because it's your own damn fault!".
Oh wait, that only applies to jobless or poor people. My mistake.

Was Rick Perry drunk?

It is a liberal plot, obviously. The democrats, sensing that Cain was destined to be the candidate is 2012, hired these two women to falsely accuse Mr. Cain of harassment so they would have something to smear him with 15 - 20 years later. And how could Mr. Cain, being so very busy being in charge of the Restaurant Association, be expected to remember details like payouts for case dismissals. There must have been hundreds of these settlements, right? How could he keep track of them, even if it did involve him directly? People running for President are accused of sexual harassment every day, aren't they? They can't be expected to remember petty details like "what happened to that potential lawsuit?" It must have just disappeared.

We are supposed to believe he knew nothing about payouts?

I believe Ann Coulter already accused the liberals. Thing is, why would the Dems smear him. He'd be a dream candidate to run against Obama (well, maybe Perry would be also)

I heard yesterday that there is also a potential campaign funding scandal that could be quite serious BUT of course a sex scandal is more appealing to the media/public.


TIS

They also omit what it is he allegedly did.

I guess this topic would fall into this category. Has anyone been following (and understand) this redistricting that the Republicans in various states are doing?

Last election I received in the mail a DVD on "Gerrymandering" which I really knew little about, but it explained to a degree how districts are determined. (kind of confusing)

Thing is, to my understanding, most of this occurs in mostly poor/Dem districts. A 92 yr old woman in TN was denied to vote after voting for years and years. She had supplied her birth certificate and other docs but she didn't have her marriage license (or some other doc) and they refused her. Is this legal???

TIS

TIS, to my knowledge states have statutes that provide recourse for potential voters who do not show up on voter registration lists. However, those statutes are not always remedial.

I'll bet that she was registered in a district that was redistricted. That wouldn't have anything to do with identification.

Gerrymandering goes back to the early 1800s. It's constitutional and Democrats and Republicans do it all the time.

That's a good point. This whole field is a joke. But at the end of the day, it will be Romney. It has to be. The other nuts poll up; the other nuts poll down. Romney stays right where he is. And come next summer, it should be enough to get the nomination in what is quite possibly the weakest political field ever assembled, Republican OR Democrat.

It's not often that someone from Throggs Neck out of character states something accurate or intuitive, but you did PB.

Spread that wealth of thought throughout the borough.

Spoken like a true Texan, by way of Bumblefuck, Pennsylvania .

I'd comment but I am off to a Rotary Club meeting.

Thank your lucky stars that so many of we PA guys accepted Peace Corps assignments to Throggs Neck.

Wouldn't it be interesting to have a viable 3rd party candidate running this year - sort of like Perot in the 90s.

Have anyone in mind? I hear Joe Lieberman is available

FYI, here's the story on the 96 year old (not 92) that had problems getting a photo ID to vote. Evidently, she needed to have documentation with her maiden name although it was typed on the birth certificate. All these years later?

She had a rent receipt, a copy of her lease, her voter registration card and her birth certificate and typewritten on the birth certificate was her maiden name, Dorothy Alexander.


TIS


http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/oct/05/marriage-certificate-required-bureaucrat-tells/

^^^^ Sounds like what we go through for a driver's license renewal in NJ. You know...to drive my 2.3 cars all around town.

Back to the election, I hear it's a strong possibility that Ron Paul runs third party.

If I had to name someone I would say Bloomberg. Too liberal for the right, too conservative for the left, has business experience.

It seems one of Cain's accusers wants to tell her side but is bound by an agreement not to talk about it. It does seem fair that if Cain tells his side, she should tell hers. Anyway, a lawyer is going to look at the agreement. And...the beat goes on. I'll bet she'll talk in the end.


TIS



http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigat...er_postpolitics

She'll talk for the right price.

~I mean a settlement in free pizza isn't as awesome as its cracked up to be.

It's been shit on, but I think it's the right idea in trying to deal with a core campaign problem (you know, like opening your mouth in a debate.)

Per the last statements he made which I saw all he "remembers" doing is telling one woman she was about the same height as his wife and offering a ride to another woman to a business meeting.

Ahem.
I've known my share of crazy coworkers. I am no feminist but it's hard to believe that even a loony like Gloria Allred would take those comments or actions and run to HR. There must be more. Of course we won't hear it from Mr. Cain.

He ought to just stop answering questions about it because it's not a good topic for him. Per Politico Cain had at least 10 days foreknowledge of the story. That should have been time enough to come up with better responses and lose the deer in the headlights look.He's blaming the "liberal media" but (a) Politico is not liberal and (b) I think this leak came from the Republican side.

You're right Lilo. I've had to handle any number of such complaints from women. Many of them were incidental, but there almost always turned out to be more to it than what the guy said there was.

What Cain is saying is that two women lied, but there was enough substance to warrant his company reaching a settlement with them. Now, companies don't just hand out settlements to every woman who complains.