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Re: Favourite little moments
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A few off the top of my head:
Clemenza drinking from the jug of wine, and the parallel scene in GFII with Pentangeli drinking from the hose.
The lighting on Michael when he interrogated Carlo.
Clemenza's gruff tenderness toward Michael before the Sollozzo assassination ("We were all proud of you...your father, too.").
Michael's glance at his steady hands after lighting Enzo's cigarette outside the hospital.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Sonny dunking the bread in Clemenza's sauce: "Send somebody with him anyway." A very Italian, very "Old World" gesture.
Two deleted scenes. After Sonny breaks the news to Mama about Vito getting shot, they occur almost back to back:
Sonny, again taking a piece of bread and dipping it into a frying pan (in the novel he made himself a "sloppy sandwich of fried peppers").
Then, when Sonny walks into the Don's den, he can't bring himself to sit in Vito's chair. He clearly feels that, in some way, this would portend Vito's death. He was probably just being superstitious, but it's a VERY moving scene.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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How about when Manolo asked Michael if he should trim the bushes in front of his bedroom window? That was just a metaphor for Manolo's affair with Kay. He was actually trimming her hedges.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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You guys have already mentioned quite a few "golden moments" in the Godfather series. But...
* In the first Godfather, some of my favorite scenes are those of Michael hiding out in Sicily - and especially of his courtship and marriage to Apollonia. Michael hadn't yet become very hardened, so it was touching to see that he was still capable of falling in love, and being sweet to his woman.
* In Godfather II, I found nearly all the flashback scenes of Vito's early life - especially as a young husband & father in New York - fascinating. Part of the fascination was simply the "period piece" attention to detail - the sets, props, clothing, the traditions & social mores, etc. And part of it was related to the study of Vito's character - especially the ways in which he was compelled to respond to the pressing challenges in his life.
In a number of ways, I found myself actually liking young Vito quite a bit. He's basically an honest person by nature. He's loyal. He's generous. And he's compassionate to others, seemingly sincere about helping people out, as his circumstances allow. Hardly the stereotypical gangster sociopath - like Al Capone, or Bugsy Siegel, or Willie Moretti.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Carlo telling Connie "Cmon be a murder like your father"
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Ooh, I know! I can't believe I didn't think of this before now:
Two of my favorite little moments are from the first scene of Godfather I; the scene with the dialogue between Vito & Bonasera.
* While he's seated at his desk and talking with Bonasera, Vito is playing with a cat that's lying in his lap. That cat is a complete hoot! So sweet; so playful. I always thought that its trusting innocence was a statement of ironic contrast to the dastardly deeds being discussed at that very moment.
* After Vito agrees to avenge the beating of Bonasera's daughter, and issues orders to Clemenza via Tom, he utters a subtle little sigh of resignation as he leans against the interior of the door to his office: a slight shrug as he utters: "Eh". Such a small gesture - from which could be inferred so much. Fatigue? The constant weight of responsibility? Something else?
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Ooh, I know! I can't believe I didn't think of this before now:
Two of my favorite little moments are from the first scene of Godfather I; the scene with the dialogue between Vito & Bonasera.
* While he's seated at his desk and talking with Bonasera, Vito is playing with a cat that's lying in his lap. That cat is a complete hoot! So sweet; so playful. I always thought that its trusting innocence was a statement of ironic contrast to the dastardly deeds being discussed at that very moment. Very astute observation, Q. Did you hear the cat purring in the background? * After Vito agrees to avenge the beating of Bonasera's daughter, and issues orders to Clemenza via Tom, he utters a subtle little sigh of resignation as he leans against the interior of the door to his office: a slight shrug as he utters: "Eh". Such a small gesture - from which could be inferred so much. Fatigue? The constant weight of responsibility? Something else?~ Q Also note that he rubs or scratches his moustache at the same time as he's telling Tom to "give this job to Clemenza." Could be he was pondering his decision. Also could be Brando had just grown a 'stache for the part, and it was itchy. BTW: Have you noticed that your namesake appears in Havana, in the scene where the Cuban President is meeting with the American business bigshots. He's seated behind Roth.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Ooh, I know! I can't believe I didn't think of this before now:
Two of my favorite little moments are from the first scene of Godfather I; the scene with the dialogue between Vito & Bonasera.
* While he's seated at his desk and talking with Bonasera, Vito is playing with a cat that's lying in his lap. That cat is a complete hoot! So sweet; so playful. I always thought that its trusting innocence was a statement of ironic contrast to the dastardly deeds being discussed at that very moment. Very astute observation, Q. Did you hear the cat purring in the background? Now that you mention it, I do recall hearing the purring. It's quiet, but audible. Brando must have been wearing a microphone that was situated just close enough to pick it up. (Unless it was dubbed in.) * After Vito agrees to avenge the beating of Bonasera's daughter, and issues orders to Clemenza via Tom, he utters a subtle little sigh of resignation as he leans against the interior of the door to his office: a slight shrug as he utters: "Eh". Such a small gesture - from which could be inferred so much. Fatigue? The constant weight of responsibility? Something else?~ Q Also note that he rubs or scratches his moustache at the same time as he's telling Tom to "give this job to Clemenza." Could be he was pondering his decision. Also could be Brando had just grown a 'stache for the part, and it was itchy. BTW: Have you noticed that your namesake appears in Havana, in the scene where the Cuban President is meeting with the American business bigshots. He's seated behind Roth. Yep, I have noticed that. He isn't on screen more than a moment or so. But I'd recognize that mug anywhere! Yet another example of the subtlety of FFC's craft, with narrative that doesn't hit you over the head with the obvious, but instead makes you work for it - not unlike the way events often play out in real life. (Pet peeve: I detest movies with so little respect for my intelligence that they insist upon spelling everything out in detail. Note to director: Don't tell me. Show me. ) As for the bigshots' scene in Havana, only if one happened to pay close attention and actually recall having seen his face, would the significance of Questadt's presence at that meeting start to become apparent by the time he was formally introduced into the film at the first Senate committee hearing scene. It isn't until several minutes later in the film, when Fredo utters: "The Senate lawyer, Questadt. He belongs to Roth", that the full significance of Questadt's role in the narrative is finally made explicit. ~ Q
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Q: Years ago a sharp-eyed member posted a screen grab of Questadt sitting behind Roth in Havana. A lot of people on this board hadn't noticed it before. It raised an immediate question: If Michael had seen Questadt sitting behind Roth in Havana, he'd have known, as soon as Questadt turned up as the lawyer questioning him at the Senate hearing, that he'd fallen into a trap set by Roth--and he would have comported himself differently. Some people here speculated that Michael's diabetes, which manifested itself in III, had already begun to affect his vision in II. Another member resolved it: He found an earlier script treatment in which Michael was to meet with Questadt in Havana. FFC dropped that idea from the final cut--wise decision, since Michael finding out (from Fredo, no less) that Questadt belonged to Roth-- after he perjured himself--made for far better drama. That left another question: Why did FFC leave that snippet of Questadt in the final cut? My guess is that FFC had already shot the Presidential meeting scene and may have shot the Michael/Questadt scene later (if it was shot). After he made the decision to drop the Michael/Questadt meeting, he was unable to cut out that snippet of Questadt in the Presidential meeting--probably because, in that pre-digital era, he couldn't have done so without disrupting the visual and audio content of the scene. All of the Havana scenes were shot on location in the Dominican Republic, and it would have been prohibitively expensive--maybe impossible--to redo that scene just to cut out two seconds of Questadt. So, I'm guessing, FFC left the snippet of Questadt in, hoping no one would notice. Of course, that was before this Board existed.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Another little golden moment that just came to mind:
When Michael and Fredo are having their intimate little tete a tete at the café in Havana, Fredo says: "Sometimes I think I shoulda married a woman like you did -- like Kay. Kids -- have a family. For once in my life -- be more like..."
...and we're anticipating that he'll say, "...you." Instead he says "...Pop." Then he sort of reaches for Michael's hand, but withdraws his own. And he says, somewhat angrily, "Why didn't we spend time like this before.?
I guess there's a limit to brotherly love and intimacy when your brother set you up to be machine-gunned at your home. It's a very telling scene. We get a good look into Fredo's deeply conflicted feelings toward Michael: Resentment and anger, coupled with genuine admiration and affection, plus real fear of Michael's retribution - should Fredo's treachery ever be found out. The tension that's there presents a foreshadowing of dire events yet to come...
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Genco Abbandando, dying in his hospital bed. Although obviously delirious with pain and medication, his absolute devotion to and belief in his Godfather shines through. A brilliant mixture of dark humor ("so it's been arranged then?") and touching sentiment when Vito remains alone by the side of his old friend to "face Death" with him, granting Genco the Corleone Family equivalent of peaceful Last Rites. Epic scene.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Then he sort of reaches for Michael's hand, but withdraws his own. And he says, somewhat angrily, "Why didn't we spend time like this before.? I always liked the way Fredo withdraws from Michael in that moment. Michael's finally being somewhat nice to him and Fredo doesn't think he's worthy to accept it at this point considering what's happened. If only they'd made the effort to communicate earlier.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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There are so many great subtle moments to comment on in the Trilogy that I love. A lot are already mentioned.
Here are a couple of my favorites.
In II, when young Vito is back in Italy. He and Tommisino go to Don Ciccio's to "get his blessing on their Olive Oil Business". Right after Vito whisper's "Antonio Andolini" and rips Don Ciccio's stomach open with the knife, He's walking away and it looks like he "tweaks" his cheek a little. Like a final F you!
When Sonny comes out of Lucy's apartment (I guess that's what it was) and says to one of his bodyguards who was reading a book. "Hey, save it for the liberry"
When Michael, Calo and Fabrizio are talking to Apollonia's father about a girl they seen that day. Fabrizio is describing her and Calo is sort of agreeing yet not in a non-impressed way.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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There are so many great subtle moments to comment on in the Trilogy that I love. A lot are already mentioned.
Here are a couple of my favorites.
In II, when young Vito is back in Italy. He and Tommisino go to Don Ciccio's to "get his blessing on their Olive Oil Business". Right after Vito whisper's "Antonio Andolini" and rips Don Ciccio's stomach open with the knife, He's walking away and it looks like he "tweaks" his cheek a little. Like a final F you!
When Sonny comes out of Lucy's apartment (I guess that's what it was) and says to one of his bodyguards who was reading a book. "Hey, save it for the liberry"
When Michael, Calo and Fabrizio are talking to Apollonia's father about a girl they seen that day. Fabrizio is describing her and Calo is sort of agreeing yet not in a non-impressed way. Good catch on the tweak. I thought he was just wiping off the blood but, watching it again, there does seem to be an extra tweak as well. I've always wondered whether Don Ciccio, in his final seconds, was able to put together who it was who killed him, and realize that his prediction of "when he grows he'll grow strong" was dead on accurate. I always thought the funny thing about Calo in the scene you mention is that he is saying the exact same words as Fabrizio. Mrs. Woltz and I have an inside joke from that - whenever we hear someone repeat what someone's else just said we whisper "Piu Greca d'Italiana" or "a bocca"
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Re: Favourite little moments
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I love when the Corleone family is able to get Sen. Geary in their pocket. Fredo's brothel, dead hooker on the bed, and Tom Hagen is there to save the day. Just out of Sen. Geary's view is Al Neri cleaning up, and Hagen gives Neri that "come on, WTF" look. One little thing I love in that scene is the change in Geary's expression when Tom says, "It will be like she never existed." You can see Geary suddenly realizes that there may be a way out of his predicament.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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One of my favorites is still the scene in Part II where Young Vito is driving the truck, and all of a sudden Fannucci jumps onto it and goes "Ayyyyy!" before asking for his cut of the money.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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When Sonny storms out of Connie's wedding to rough up the guy taking pictures of license plates, he has Paulie Gatto in tow, well behind him. After he spits on the FBI guy's credentials and says, "Goddam FBI don't respect nothin'," he and Paulie turn away. When Paulie is well distanced from the FBI guy, he makes a "cornudo"--the two fingered "horns" that are the classical Italian sign of the cuckold--but does it so surreptitiously that you barely notice it. A perfect sign of what a weasel he was, and a hint of treason to come.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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When Sonny storms out of Connie's wedding to rough up the guy taking pictures of license plates, he has Paulie Gatto in tow, well behind him. After he spits on the FBI guy's credentials and says, "Goddam FBI don't respect nothin'," he and Paulie turn away. When Paulie is well distanced from the FBI guy, he makes a "cornudo"--the two fingered "horns" that are the classical Italian sign of the cuckold--but does it so surreptitiously that you barely notice it. A perfect sign of what a weasel he was, and a hint of treason to come. TB, I didn't see what you saw in that scene. In fact, Paulie is not well behind Sonny; he's right on his heels until Sonny is directed by an agent to another agent sitting in the car. Once Sonny leaves that agent and walks back toward the gate, Paulie is right there and actually covers Sonny's retreat back to the gate. Several times Paulie moves his hand toward the gun he has under his coat. On the other hand, Clemenza never leaves the vicinity of the gate.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Another choice one: when Bonasera finally says to Vito: "Be my friend?" Vito kind of shrugs, as if to say, "maybe, maybe not." Then Bonasera says, "...godfather," and kisses Vito's hand. Vito then says, "Good," and puts his arm over Bonasera. Perfect end to a perfect scene.
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Another choice one: when Bonasera finally says to Vito: "Be my friend?" Vito kind of shrugs, as if to say, "maybe, maybe not." Then Bonasera says, "...godfather," and kisses Vito's hand. Vito then says, "Good," and puts his arm over Bonasera. Perfect end to a perfect scene. TB, that is one of the best scenes. They are like two schoolyard kids making up after a fight.
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Yes, when Sonny dips some bread in the SAUCE has been posted before. But, it is a nice touch. how many times did I do that when my mother was making the SAUCE! Please. This is coming from someone who actually addresses people as y'all. But whatever you say, Tex . In the novel and in a deleted scene, he does the same with his mother's peppers. Yes, after Vito was shot. They should have left that in. I remember in the novel it said that he made himself a "sloppy sandwich of fried peppers," or something like that. I don't have the book handy, though.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Most of my favourite moments seem to be involving Tom. One that I like very much is of course from Part I, and that I don't ever see mentioned is when they are awaiting the call about which place Michael is going to meet Sollozzo at. They are discussing the 'meeting' and Tom stands behind Mike and he starts patting his back. Very feel-good like moment. Followed by, or may have been before(?).. Tom getting a little worried about the situation and he shouts at little at Santino - "Sollozzo might not even be in the car Sonny!", in a very big brother kind of way. Don't remember if those were mentioned but this huge favourite was. The scene between good ole' Pete and Mike talking about when he was fighting for their country in the war and he makes it clear that they were all proud of him.
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- In the meeting after the killing of Santino. Tattaglia was saying that what guarantees he had that Don Corleone is not gonna try any act of vengeance. Barzini starts talking a Don Corleone rise his hands like "hey I got this" and Barzini stops talking. - Don Vito's reaction when Tom tells him Luca Brasi wanted to see him at the wedding. Sorry for my english
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When Bonasera asks "How much shall I pay you?" Tom's movements afterwards, as if he's thinking "Jeez... Really?"
In II, Tom's hand gestures when he says to Geary about the dead whore: "It will be like she never existed."
The slicing of the Cuba cake; the symbolism is obvious but I love it.
In the last scene with Frankie and Hagen: Frankie's "See ya, Tom." That line feels SO real I'm sure it was improvised by Gazzo. I'm glad the editor left that moment in.
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When Luca walks down the long hallway to the bar to meet with tataglia and solozzo.
the look on vitos face when clemenza tosses the guns into vitos apartment in the flashback scenes.
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In the scene where Michael is hosting Geary and others in the Havana nightclub, Fredo asks if the guests want more drinks. Geary says, leeringly, "I'll try one of those red-headed Yolandas" [the showgirl we saw earlier]. If you run that scene very slowly, the camera pans onto Michael's face, and he's rolling his eyes as if to say, "Geez, doesn't this guy ever keep his dick in his pants?"
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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In the scene where Michael is hosting Geary and others in the Havana nightclub, Fredo asks if the guests want more drinks. Geary says, leeringly, "I'll try one of those red-headed Yolandas" [the showgirl we saw earlier]. If you run that scene very slowly, the camera pans onto Michael's face, and he's rolling his eyes as if to say, "Geez, doesn't this guy ever keep his dick in his pants?" I'll watch for that next time TB. But what struck me about that scene was how quickly Fredo learned about the local alcohol culture since, apparently, he had never been to Havana.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Having taken another close look at the meeting scene with Senator Geary in Michael's office, in Godfather II, there are actually several subtle, nuanced gestures and expressions there that deserve special mention (most of which I don't think have come up yet):
* As the meeting is getting started, Michael and Senator Geary stand up as a gesture of courtesy while Tom enters the room. Michael remains standing until Geary begins to sit back down, at one point hesitating while he waits for Geary to take his seat. Michael may be a gangster, but he's a cultured gangster.
* As Geary begins his spiel, i.e. "Now my sources tell me that you plan to make a move against the Tropigala...", there's a very telling exchange of glances between Michael and Tom. Michael seems to be silently asking Tom, 'How does he know about this?', while Tom's sheepish look responds, 'Beats me. I'm as surprised as you are.'
* There are a couple of instances in which Tom watches Geary with suspicion as Geary speaks: the first while Geary is dictating the terms of his intended extortion; the second as Geary utters his ethnic slur about "oily hair and silk suits".
* The cold, stony "game face" that Michael presents to Geary as he's being shaken down and insulted; never betraying a bit about what he might be feeling at the moment.
* As Geary stands up, uttering: "OK, some people have to play little games. You play yours", he takes the little cast iron replica of a cannon that's sitting on Michael's desk, and points it straight at Michael. Michael notices, but does not show any reaction.
* While Geary becomes more belligerent and mean-spirited as he delivers his ultimatum, Michael's demeanor begins to shift. He begins to rock slightly in his chair, almost as if he's bobbing his head. By the time he replies, "Senator, you can have my answer now if you like. My offer is this: Nothing...", the chair is practically vibrating with Michael's cocky, arrogant energy. There is an expression of cold, controlled rage on his face as he dictates his own terms to the senator, his piercing black eyes unblinking. This is a cobra preparing to strike its prey.
* As Geary walks out the door, there is one more telling exchange of glances between Michael and Tom. Michael's expression is one of disgust; Tom's is one of contrition and embarrassment.
Not only are these some of my favorite scenes of Godfather II, the entire scene is one of my favorite scenes.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Having taken another close look at the meeting scene with Senator Geary in Michael's office, in Godfather II, there are actually several subtle, nuanced gestures and expressions there that deserve special mention (most of which I don't think have come up yet):
* As the meeting is getting started, Michael and Senator Geary stand up as a gesture of courtesy while Tom enters the room. Michael remains standing until Geary begins to sit back down, at one point hesitating while he waits for Geary to take his seat. Michael may be a gangster, but he's a cultured gangster.
* As Geary begins his spiel, i.e. "Now my sources tell me that you plan to make a move against the Tropigala...", there's a very telling exchange of glances between Michael and Tom. Michael seems to be silently asking Tom, 'How does he know about this?', while Tom's sheepish look responds, 'Beats me. I'm as surprised as you are.'
* There are a couple of instances in which Tom watches Geary with suspicion as Geary speaks: the first while Geary is dictating the terms of his intended extortion; the second as Geary utters his ethnic slur about "oily hair and silk suits".
* The cold, stony "game face" that Michael presents to Geary as he's being shaken down and insulted; never betraying a bit about what he might be feeling at the moment.
* As Geary stands up, uttering: "OK, some people have to play little games. You play yours", he takes the little cast iron replica of a cannon that's sitting on Michael's desk, and points it straight at Michael. Michael notices, but does not show any reaction.
* While Geary becomes more belligerent and mean-spirited as he delivers his ultimatum, Michael's demeanor begins to shift. He begins to rock slightly in his chair, almost as if he's bobbing his head. By the time he replies, "Senator, you can have my answer now if you like. My offer is this: Nothing...", the chair is practically vibrating with Michael's cocky, arrogant energy. There is an expression of cold, controlled rage on his face as he dictates his own terms to the senator, his piercing black eyes unblinking. This is a cobra preparing to strike its prey.
* As Geary walks out the door, there is one more telling exchange of glances between Michael and Tom. Michael's expression is one of disgust; Tom's is one of contrition and embarrassment.
Not only are these some of my favorite scenes of Godfather II, the entire scene is one of my favorite scenes.
~ Q What I also like about that scene is as Geary exits the room, he's a bit surprised the wives had been sitting out there the entire time.
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Look the FBI guys promised me a deal. So I made up a lot of stuff about MICHAEL Corleone 'cause that's what they wanted -- but it was all lies -- uh -- everything. And I kept saying -- MICHAEL Corleone did this and MICHAEL Corleone did that -- .uh -- so I said yea sure, why not- Frankie Five Angels
lol i find this hilarous, he was about to sell out for his own life. He saw his brother and was reminded of Omerta. He knew he couldnt break the oath or his family in Sicily would be killed
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The look on Capt. McCluskey face the moment Sollozzo is shot, McCluskey knows what is coming next.. Michael shoots him in the neck, and McCluskey has this look on his face that seems to say "I'm going to die with this fucking piece of veal caught in my throat, and it's not even the best in the city!"
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Michael popping pills on the train in !!... the first sign that the stress is getting to him and that his body is starting to break down. Or his nerve. I bet the pills were Miltown, the universal tranquilizer of the Fifties. Another little moment: During the New Year's Eve party at the Capri in Havana, Geary gets a lascivious grin on his puss and says, "I'll try one of those red-headed Yolandas." If you run the DVD on slo-mo, you can see Michael rolling his eyes as if to say, "There he goes again--thinking with his dick. Didn't he learn anything from that brothel murder?"
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Michael popping pills on the train in !!... the first sign that the stress is getting to him and that his body is starting to break down. Or his nerve. I bet the pills were Miltown, the universal tranquilizer of the Fifties. Another little moment: During the New Year's Eve party at the Capri in Havana, Geary gets a lascivious grin on his puss and says, "I'll try one of those red-headed Yolandas." If you run the DVD on slo-mo, you can see Michael rolling his eyes as if to say, "There he goes again--thinking with his dick. Didn't he learn anything from that brothel murder?" Michael has a similar expression in the Moe Green meeting when Moe says the chef will cook for him special and the dancers will kick his teeth in.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
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Speaking of looks, I love the exasperated look that Clemenza gives Tessio (along with the table taps and hand wave) when Vito tries to convince them not to pay Fanucci the $200.
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In that wonderfully acted scene when Michael and Fredo have their drink in Havana: Fredo is on the verge of intimacy. He says, "Sometimes I wish I would have married a woman like Kay...be more like..." We're waiting for Fredo to say, "...like you." Instead, he says, "...like Pop." He's holding Michael's wrist, but then he jerks it away and says, angrily, "Why didn't we spend time like this before?" Cazale's triumph.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Three more, after watching the wedding scene (for about the 2000th time):
--Sonny has Paulie in tow when he confronts the FBI guys outside the compound. After Sonny spits on the FBI guy's credentials and turns, Paulie surreptitiously give the FBI guy the cornudo--the "horns" two-finger gesture of contempt.
--Sonny's wife, Sandra, is showing, with her hands, how big Sonny's dick is. She has an almost prideful look on her face. But, just behind her, Sonny is gesturing to Lucy Mancini to follow him for their "assignation." Sandra spots them, and suddenly looks crestfallen--"there he goes again"--as if acknowledging that Sonny's massive organ is not her exclusive property.
--Kay's all excited that Michael knows Johnny Fontaine, and seems eager to know how his father helped Johnny in his career. But, as Michael describes how "Luca Brazi held a gun to the bandleader's head and assured and my father assured him that either his brains or his signature would rest on the contract," her expression slowly shifts from eagerness, to bafflement, to shock.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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- I like when in g2, when Connie orders Neri to get a drink for Merle" AL, WOULD YOU GET HIM A DRINK, PLEASE" Neri has this look on his face that's a combination of ' what am I, a bartender?' and ' You're lucky your the boss's sister.' - in a deleted scene, Neri is talking to Klingman and Klingman says"who do you think you're talking to?' Neri has this look on his face as if to say 'You don't know who you're talking to.' - A little after that when Klingman runs into the ballroom to get away from Neri, he makes the mistake of throwing a chair at Neri, Neri picks it up and in one of the few shows of emotion for him, picks it up and is getting ready to take Klingmans head off has a VERY ticked off look on his face.
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Probably mentioned before, but here goes:
GFI: Michael hugging his brothers good bye before the Sollozo assassination.
GFII: Michael giving Fredo The Kiss while in Cuba at the New Year's Eve party.
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As soon as Neri smacked Klingman in the head, you can see them look away, as if to say " we didn't see anything " and when Klingman and Neri start walking they take a couple of steps back and don't want to even appear to get involved. That sends a message that they knew who Neri was and the only one who didn't have a clue was Klingman.
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My sentimental pick is in III,when Michael flashes back to the dance scene with Appolonia,just before his death. Although the scene lasts only a few seconds,the expression on his face speaks volumes. We see a happy Mike,a man who still has a chance to take a better path than the one he ultimately chose. We see the sparkle,the impish grin that must have swept Kay off her feet the first time she met Michael. The phrase that comes to my mind every time I watch that scene is "What might have been?" That final scene in the third film rescues many of the film's flaws. Michael remembering his women before he dies; underscoring the life he could have lead, and the utter futility of his quest to keep his family safe, from the moment he put a bullet in Sollozza's head until Mary's murder. Here is Michael Corleone, a man gifted with great intellect, willpower, and a capacity for nearly endless ruthlessness, whose every action from the moment he put a bullet in Virgil Sollozzo's head had been to keep his family safe, to guarantee its fortunes and survival. And now, at the end of his life, he revisits his failures; the first wife that was murdered by a bomb meant for him, a second wife who grew to hate and fear him and killed his unborn child to escape him, and a daughter who adored and worshiped him, sharing Apollonia's fate in dying in his place. I just watched the trilogy last weekend, and something stirred me about that final scene in III. It now strikes me that Don Ciccio's death presages Michael's in some way; both men are ultimately killed for their failures; Ciccio for not catching Young Vito, and Michael for not keep safe that which his father had built from the moment he fled from Don Ciccio. A closing of the circle, if you will.
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Another marvel:
Immediately after the Tahoe shooting, when Kay is holding Mary close, Michael's face shows embarrassment, humiliation, frustration--he can't look Kay in the eye after that shooting. Kay, meanwhile, is beaming anger at Michael--"if looks could kill." I bet that was when she decided to have an abortion.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Sonny goes to his father's office and can't seem to bring himself to sit in his father's chair behind the desk.
He then pulls up another chair to the edge of the desk and begins making the necessary phone calls after retrieving an address book from the safe.
Such a little thing that spoke so loudly; He couldn't sit in his father's chair. Also, who among us has never scooped something tasty out of a pan on the stove with a piece of bread?!? A couple of my favorite little moments.
Agreed Mark. Definitely one of my favorite little moments. While there is no actual dialogue in that scene, it still speaks volumes! DC - glad to see you back! I noticed last night that after the Corleone's hit Bruno Tattaglia and Santino is feeling more confident, he is sitting in Vito's chair. I think that when Vito's fate was uncertain, there was a bit of a "Post 9-11" feeling at The Corleone Mall? However, after Santino began his offensive, he gained the necessary fortitude and thought himself "worthy" to be behind the desk. If anything, to show everybody he was firmly in charge and taking care of things.
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One favorite moment is when Michael gets Carlo to admit that Don Barzini used him to set up Sonny. If Carlo had stuck by his guns and not admitted to it he may have survived the encounter.and made it back home. He needed Carlo to admit to it before he could kill him.
Don Corleone, I'm gonna leave you now, because I know you are busy.
Sonny: Mickey Mantle? That's what you're upset about? Mantle makes $100,000 a year. How much does your father make? If your dad ever can't pay the rent and needs money, go ask Mickey Mantle. See what happens. Mickey Mantle don't care about you. Why care about him?
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Lots of my fave parts have been mentioned but here are a few of mine
-The look of despair and resignation on the face of Tessio when he's been rumbled, in that split second, he knows his life is over - top, top acting. RIP Abe. Plus, the sad expression on Tom's face in the same scene, things have changed and will never be the same again, and when he tells Tessio that Mike understands it was only business, it's genuine. - The left-handed response of Michael to McCluskey's handshake, and the expression of nonchalance that neither McCluskey or Sollozzo could see. - The way Bruno's cigarette hangs from his mouth effortlessly while he co-participates in the murder of Luca - The way Sonny tells Carlo to never touch his sister again through exhaustion. - The Don's complete indifference to Fredo when he enters his bedroom alone. - Tom's voice breaking with emotion when he tells the Don that Sonny is dead - The very blatant smug expressions of Tattaglia and Barzini to each other in the meeting - Carlo's little grin to himself when he gets in the car, thinking he has got away with it then... 'Hello Carlo'
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Watching the GF and II this weekend, I re-noticed somethings about Tom when he met with Woltz and then again in II.
When he meets with Woltz during dinner, Woltz engages in his hugely emotional tirade. Yet, Tom in the face of this verbal assault remains impassive and continues to devour his meal. Of course, Tom's passivity is understandable since, as the novel explains, the Don had never broken a promise and would not break his promise to his godson about obtaining for him the coveted role in Woltz's upcoming film. Duval played that scene perfectly. It is similar to the scene when Michael meets with Carlo near the end of the film. Michael is like the shark circling his prey; the shark fears nothing and there is no escape for his prey. In the same vein, Tom knows that Woltz's words cannot prevail against the Don's words and, even more so, the Don's will.
In II, there is the scene where Michael meets with Ola and excludes Tom from that meeting. The camera shows Tom's exit from the meeting as Tom feigns a smile and pleasing words about his being right outside if needed by Michael. The camera stays with Tom as he enters the enclosed vestibule where he clears out the kids who were seated there. Tom lingers for a few seconds as his demeanor portrays his absolute disappointment and even sadness at being excluded. Duvall played that scene masterfully.
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I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but...
...in the scene in Havana where Batista is meeting with the gringo businessmen and passing around the solid gold telefono, look carefully and you'll see the Senate lawyer, Questadt, sitting behind Roth. What was he doing there? If Michael had spotted him, he never would have fallen into that perjury trap at the Senate hearing later on. An alert poster many years ago found an earlier script treatment (there are many of them) in which Michael was to meet with Questadt in Cuba. Obviously it never made the final cut. So, why did FFC leave Questadt in that scene? Maybe he missed it.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Those little gestures are wonderful. Like Vito moving his right index finger from right to left to tell Tom to get Bonasera a drink. Or the little shrug he gives after Bonasera finally says, "Be my friend...Godfather."
One of my faves is the Havana nightclub with Michael, Fredo, Geary, Ola and the businessmen. Geary, ogling the gal in the floor show, says, "I'll try one of those red-headed Yolandas." The camera shifts to Michael's face. If you go through that moment frame by frame, you'll see Michael rolling his eyes as if to say, "There he goes again--thinking with his dick."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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So much great little moments mentionned already.
Here are some others I love. I don't think I've seen them yet.
- During the Johnny Fontane/Godfather meeting, when Vito says something like : " I want you to rest and in a few weeks ...", before he finishes his sentence, you see Sonny in the background startle. He is off focus but you then see him gesture to an off-camera Tom that it is in the bag for the singer-would-be-actor.
- Near the end of G1, Carlo enters the car and is greeted by Clemenza. Then, and it is beautiful : you ear a crow-Tom Hagen loosen his tie-immediately after, Clemenza garrots Carlo.
The tie loosening is an anodine move Tom does several time throughout the movie. Yet, it really comes across as the signal for Peter. It is the vengence as planned by the father : lead by Michael, but with Sonny's godfather and closest brother taking part in it. Tom never attends the murders usually.
And if it is not ! It doesn't matter! The editing of the crow-the tie-the garrot is still awesome !
- The way Sonny stutters his apology to Tom after he criticized him for not being Sicilian. "Pop had Genco, look what I've got !"
We don't see Tom's reaction, but Sonny's face says it all. Besides, Hagen's silence is eloquent.
Much has been said about Hagen's competence as a wartime consigliere. But it is not what this is about in this scene. Sonny might instinctively be on to something, but he was more likely lashing out, being impulsive. Sonny is all about family, above all else. As soon as the words are out, he realises he is telling his adoptive brother : "You are not one of us." The way he immediately deflates is a nice touch and very in-character. He also hastily adds :" Mom prepared a lunch for us". Includes him back in the family.
- In G2, people have noted how Tom puts on a brave face when Michael says he won't take part in the Ola meeting, but then looks hurt when he lingers a few seconds in the hall. I've noticed for the first time that the scene of him politely asking the three young adults to leave the hall, mirrors the scene in G1 where he kindly prevents three small kids from running into Vito's office as he meets Luca Brazzi during the wedding.
It seems to me that it is a few seconds after talking to the kids, that the hurt fully registers and he takes the mesure of his fall since 1945. During the wedding, he was involved in everything, his father's closest assistant. This time is over.
I wonder if they are supposed to be the same three kids 14 years later.
- When Michael comes back to the mall, after the hospital incident, one of the new button man, standing far away on the stairs (?) nods to the young Corleone out of respect. Michael just stood up to a corrupted policeman and paid the price. QUESTION : The actor is too far away for me to tell, but is it supposed to be Al Neri ?
I know in the book he comes on board later, but in the movie ? Why not ? That would be cool. What do you think ? Can anyone confirm ?
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Yet, it really comes across as the signal for Peter. This was a very nice analysis. It looks to me, though, that the geography is a problem. I think that Carlo and then Michael-Tom are approaching almost from behind the car. I think Tom would have to signal the guy who put Carlo in the car, who would then relay the signal to Clemenza. That would be pretty clumsy.
"All of these men were good listeners; patient men."
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Yet, it really comes across as the signal for Peter. This was a very nice analysis. It looks to me, though, that the geography is a problem. I think that Carlo and then Michael-Tom are approaching almost from behind the car. I think Tom would have to signal the guy who put Carlo in the car, who would then relay the signal to Clemenza. That would be pretty clumsy. Yeah, probably! 😄 It still makes for an interesting sequence. Crow-loosened tie-garrot. I love it. I love the idea that Tom might have indulged in vengence just this once. But it might not be to that degree.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Indeed ! Still. The ambiguity is what make people discuss the films all these years later !
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Gestures matter. For example, Vito is always courteous and even kindly to Tom, and Tom never acts subserviently to him. But, Tom is still his subordinate. In the opening scene, as the camera starts to pan away from Bonasera's face, and Bonasera breaks down, Vito makes a snappy, ordering gesture to Tom to get Bonasera a drink. Later, at the Commission meeting, as Vito starts talking, he gestures to Tom to move his chair for him. Both beautiful touches.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Couple others:
* Tom's face when Geary is speaking his opinion to Michael about Italians and their silk suits, etc.
* Tom speaking to Vincenzo in Italian
* Kay's outfits throughout the first two movies. She had some nice jackets (fun fact, in Portland, Oregon where I live one of her dresses is on display at a video rental store in town called Movie Madness) Oh, yeah. Definitely, Tom's face during Geary's xenophobic attack. Silent but so eloquent. Also, the silent (again!) exchange between the two brothers, once Geary exits and they are left alone. A complete conversation takes place, only with their eyes. Al Pacino deserves his nomination in G2, but I wish Robert Duvall had been nominated again.
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Re: Favourite little moments
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Speaking of Tom's face: --The utter distaste he shows when Moe Greene blows into the hotel room with his "greetings." --The patented Robert Duvall grin when Tom is listening to Sonny banging Lucy. A bit different from the book: Out in the garden, Hagen searched anxiously for Sonny Corleone. He told the waiting Bonasera to be patient and went over to Michael Corleone and his girl friend. “Did you see Sonny around?†he asked. Michael shook his head. Damn, Hagen thought, if Sonny was screwing the maid of honor all this time there was going to be a mess of trouble. His wife, the young girl’s family; it could be a disaster. Anxiously he hurried to the entrance through which he had seen Sonny disappear almost a half hour ago.
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