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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #601178
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I think its funny how Frank wants to take America "back," and could possibly give it to a Mormon President. You know a member of maybe one of the more discriminated against religious groups in the history of America? People driven out of New York and Midwest and into Utah because of violence? A group that really isn't respected or liked at all by the GOP's Evangelical social-conservative base unless they need the money or votes?

The '12 spring primary smear trash about Magic Underwear, polygamy, FOOTLOOSE, cult welfare, "converting" dead people into the LDS, etc...it's going to get nasty. Where will Frank be then?

Probably blame Romney for not revealing himself enough or his church attendance records or give a full account of that time he went to Las Vegas to take a piss.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #601179
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Nice job Lilo, but I fear nothing will change for a hopefully small minority of people. I think many know the truth but sadly can't accept it.

On another note, Orly Taitz was just on Lawrence O'Donnell's show. OMG! lol O'Donnell wanted her to specifically address the birth certificate that the President released today AND he asked if she'd apologize. That woman is nuts. She kept talking, not answering him but holding up some "selective service" document saying he's committed social security fraud or such???? She SAYS that there's a court date (2 I think) coming up. O'Donnell kept yelling at her to answer the question if the BC was enough for her and she went on a rant about this SS document. He ended up kicking her off and told her to go play with Donald Trump. lol

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I finally saw that interview TIS. She is nuts. Some of her has spread to the Board.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: olivant] #601181
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Oli,

Both her and O'Donnell were talking at the same time. Could you get exactly which document she had? What was she disputing? Was it his Social Security number???? She's been bitching about the birth certificate all this time and refused to even comment now that it's been debunked (again). Is this the new thing now? I think the college grades are coming into play as well by this nutjobs. confused

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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
But while we're at, I'll play devil's advocate in this whole birther debate and suggest now that Obama has shown his birth certificate, he should do the same with regards to his passport and travel information.

We know he was in Pakistan in his formative years so what was he doing there? Where did he go to school? Was he under the Islamic Jihadist tutelage like his buddy Reverend Wright? Given his actions and the people he's associated with (anti-American preachers and former terrorist turned academics like Bill Ayers) I think we have a right to know where this guy's been, b/c he's been all over the Islamic world.

So while you're purposely raising fuel prices to benefit your Islamic counterparts and destroying the value of the dollar, why don't you release that passport and tell us exactly what you were doing all over the Middle EAst and North Africa.


Which one of the Fox News folks told you he was in Pakistan during his young years? Could you possibly mean Indonesia?
At least we know there is at least one right winger that is a non-intellectual, although apparently is an elitist. Reverend Wright is a Islamist Jihadist? Is this from the Donald Trump school of ridiculous statements that are meant to be attention grabbers?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #601205
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Apparently Trump's helicopter landed in some New England town yesterday where he shook hands and pretended to be the next President. He said he was gonna have to examine the birth certificate to determine it's authenticity. "Is it's real? Is it proper?" is what he said.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/reality_intrudes_on_donald_show_vFtp5goa5ZAQFfe4McOBnJ


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #601206
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'Face the Nation' Host: Trump's a Racist!

4/27/2011 8:30 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

The host of "Face the Nation" -- flush with anger -- called Donald Trump a racist.

Bob Schieffer appeared Wednesday night on "The CBS Evening News" and reacted to Trump's latest salvo against President Barack Obama, in which Trump suggested the Prez might not have had the grades to get into Harvard Law School.

Schieffer said, "That's just code for saying he got into law school because he's black. This is an ugly strain of racism that's running through this whole thing."

Earlier in the day, Trump said, "I have friends who have smart sons with great marks, great boards, great everything and they can't get into Harvard. We don't know a thing about this guy. There are a lot of questions that are unanswered about our President."

http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/27/bob-schaff...-school-grades/

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Re: Election 2012 [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #601207
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Trump is a racist blowhard who is taping into the worst instincts of this country. He is also a total phony. He's not worth 10% of what he claims he is worth, he's prospered by using bankruptcy courts and he is no more serious about running for president than I am.


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Originally Posted By: Don Marco
Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
But while we're at, I'll play devil's advocate in this whole birther debate and suggest now that Obama has shown his birth certificate, he should do the same with regards to his passport and travel information.

We know he was in Pakistan in his formative years so what was he doing there? Where did he go to school? Was he under the Islamic Jihadist tutelage like his buddy Reverend Wright? Given his actions and the people he's associated with (anti-American preachers and former terrorist turned academics like Bill Ayers) I think we have a right to know where this guy's been, b/c he's been all over the Islamic world.

So while you're purposely raising fuel prices to benefit your Islamic counterparts and destroying the value of the dollar, why don't you release that passport and tell us exactly what you were doing all over the Middle EAst and North Africa.


Which one of the Fox News folks told you he was in Pakistan during his young years? Could you possibly mean Indonesia?
At least we know there is at least one right winger that is a non-intellectual, although apparently is an elitist. Reverend Wright is a Islamist Jihadist? Is this from the Donald Trump school of ridiculous statements that are meant to be attention grabbers?


He traveled to Pakistan and lots of places as a young man during and after college. This crap is like the nonsense about how Clinton went to Moscow when he was young and was a closet commie. Apparently the wingnuts prefer our leaders to be complete hicks who do not travel, who do not understand the world....like Palin.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #601209
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I hope he does run. I could use the laugh.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #601210
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Oli,

Both her and O'Donnell were talking at the same time. Could you get exactly which document she had? What was she disputing? Was it his Social Security number???? She's been bitching about the birth certificate all this time and refused to even comment now that it's been debunked (again). Is this the new thing now? I think the college grades are coming into play as well by this nutjobs. confused

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I'm not sure. However, I think she referred to his selective service form and his social security number.


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Yeah, that was kind of my Michael Richards moment earlier. Sorry if I offended. But it's interesting that folks feel the need to defend scum like Reverend Wright, and that no one's had a rebuttal for the fact that Obama announced his intent to run for President in the home of Bill Ayers, same guy who was leader of a communist revolutionary group that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings during the 1960s and 1970s. Political differences aside, because I'm not very political anyway, but these aren't exactly the types of people I want running the country or associating with the leader of this country.

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I don't think Obama ever tried to defend that moron Reverend Wright. That guy is nothing like Obama. Or that Bill Ayers. Along the way you meet a lot of people and just because you've met them or listened to them speak, it doesn't mean you agree with them. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Obama's an atheist.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Frank_Nitti] #601221
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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
Yeah, that was kind of my Michael Richards moment earlier. Sorry if I offended. But it's interesting that folks feel the need to defend scum like Reverend Wright, and that no one's had a rebuttal for the fact that Obama announced his intent to run for President in the home of Bill Ayers, same guy who was leader of a communist revolutionary group that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings during the 1960s and 1970s. Political differences aside, because I'm not very political anyway, but these aren't exactly the types of people I want running the country or associating with the leader of this country.


I had no idea that Bill Ayers lived in the town square of Springfiled Illinois, where Obama actually announced he was running for President.

"Sen. Barack Obama stood before a cheering crowd in his home state Saturday and announced he will seek the 2008 Democratic nomination for president.

Invoking the memory of fellow Illinoisan and the 16th president of the United States, Abraham Lincoln, the first-term senator addressed thousands packed into the Springfield, Illinois, town square on a chilly day in America's heartland." - CNN February 10, 2007


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: Frank_Nitti] #601222
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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
Yeah, that was kind of my Michael Richards moment earlier. Sorry if I offended. But it's interesting that folks feel the need to defend scum like Reverend Wright, and that no one's had a rebuttal for the fact that Obama announced his intent to run for President in the home of Bill Ayers, same guy who was leader of a communist revolutionary group that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings during the 1960s and 1970s. Political differences aside, because I'm not very political anyway, but these aren't exactly the types of people I want running the country or associating with the leader of this country.



Obama denounced what Wright said, and he barely knows Bill Ayers. Nitti, your sources of information (probably Faux News) are very shaky. Also I am sure you have the same feelings about Bush hanging out with war criminals like Cheney and Rummy.


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Nitti, your sources of information (probably Faux News) are very shaky.


I concur. Some of your previous posts about economics seem to be based largely on analyses provided by the Heritage Foundation. You might want to broaden your array of both political and economic sources.


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Well I don't know what the Heritage Foundation is but I'm familiar with the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority and Chartered Financial Analyst associations.

And I guess it was Bill Ayers who was at the home of Obama? Either way he's associated with these people and if you are too that's your right, but expect some slight disagreement.

We ARE at War right now, right? With Islamic extremists among others. Right, wrong, or indifferent we have to take war time precautions, IMO. Thus perhaps this whole birther or whatever you wish to call it business is somewhat justified on those grounds.

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Most of these presidents knew people who could be considered negative characters. I will bet you a million bucks Reagan had at least two crooked friends in Hollywood, and by the way, wasn't he friendly with Sinatra? Sinatra, the biggest mob groupie since Virginia Hill.


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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti

And I guess it was Bill Ayers who was at the home of Obama? Either way he's associated with these people and if you are too that's your right, but expect some slight disagreement.


Have you ever talked to someone who might be considered a crook or a shady individual? Maybe found out later this guy was no good? Well, I have.

Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti

We ARE at War right now, right? With Islamic extremists among others. Right, wrong, or indifferent we have to take war time precautions, IMO. Thus perhaps this whole birther or whatever you wish to call it business is somewhat justified on those grounds.


What? What does the war against Islamic extremists have to do with that birther nonsense? You wanna make sure he's not one of the Islamic extremists?


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #601241
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To lighten the mood a bit, here's a segment by Steven Colbert who is insisting that Obama release his elementary school records. lol

(it's funny yet it's not because this could end up as ridiculous as this sounds, being an issue with the nutjobs and the rightwing media. rolleyes


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lol Yeah have him release his elementary records!!! I also want to see his dental records. It would be unacceptable to have a president with bad teeth!


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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
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And I guess it was Bill Ayers who was at the home of Obama? Either way he's associated with these people and if you are too that's your right, but expect some slight disagreement.

We ARE at War right now, right? With Islamic extremists among others. Right, wrong, or indifferent we have to take war time precautions, IMO. Thus perhaps this whole birther or whatever you wish to call it business is somewhat justified on those grounds.


The announcement was made in Springfield, IL at the town square. It was not at Ayer's house, or Obama's house. Your sources are questionable, at best.


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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
To lighten the mood a bit, here's a segment by Steven Colbert who is insisting that Obama release his elementary school records. lol


TIS


I don't know why they just don't interview the other babies who were in the maternity ward nursery with the President when they were born. Surely, they would remember him.





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Originally Posted By: Don Marco
Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
Well
And I guess it was Bill Ayers who was at the home of Obama? Either way he's associated with these people and if you are too that's your right, but expect some slight disagreement.

We ARE at War right now, right? With Islamic extremists among others. Right, wrong, or indifferent we have to take war time precautions, IMO. Thus perhaps this whole birther or whatever you wish to call it business is somewhat justified on those grounds.


The announcement was made in Springfield, IL at the town square. It was not at Ayer's house, or Obama's house. Your sources are questionable, at best.


I remember that announcement very well (as I'm sure many here do) and Don Marco is correct. Frank, I don't know where you got the info but it's not correct. confused


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Originally Posted By: olivant
[quote=The Italian Stallionette]To lighten the mood a bit, here's a segment by Steven Colbert who is insisting that Obama release his elementary school records. lol


TIS


I don't know why they just don't interview the other babies who were in the maternity ward nursery with the President when they were born. Surely, they would remember him.




Oli,

They could have film (8mm likely) tongue of Obama's mother delivering her baby in front of a popular Hawaiian site and that still would not be good enough for the whackos. lol If I were advising Obama, I'd say release NOTHING more because NOTHING will be enough for these people. rolleyes

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Okay, let's settle this. The President started his political career by running for the Illinois State Senate. Bill Ayer's hosted a fund raising event for the President during that campaign.


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Originally Posted By: olivant
Okay, let's settle this. The President started his political career by running for the Illinois State Senate. Bill Ayer's hosted a fund raising event for the President during that campaign.


Oli,

Settle this???? Surely you jest? wink Ah, if only it were that simple hu? Mind if I'm a tad skeptical? lol


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Well, settle the facts regarding the launching of his presidential campaign.


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After reading some remarks on various sites of those who STILL refuse to believe this birth certificate is on the level, I had to laugh at this remark.

"The AFTERbirthers are STILLbirthers". lol


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #601392
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Re: Election 2012 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #601394
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
After reading some remarks on various sites of those who STILL refuse to believe this birth certificate is on the level, I had to laugh at this remark.

"The AFTERbirthers are STILLbirthers". lol


TIS


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