Also, to whom would the President's birth certificate be made available? What would he do with it? Dsplay it under a glass seal in the White House lobby? Factcheck.org examined it in 2008 and found it original. Hawaii officials both appointed and elected have viewed it and verified it. Now what? If you examined it, how in the world could one tell if it was authentic?
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Only 38% of Republican primary voters say they're willing to support a candidate for President next year who firmly rejects the birther theory and those folks want Mitt Romney to be their nominee for President next year. With the other 62% of Republicans- 23% of whom say they are only willing to vote for a birther and 39% of whom are not sure- Donald Trump is cleaning up. And as a result Trump's ridden the controversy about Barack Obama's place of birth to the highest level of support we've found for anyone in our national GOP polling so far in 2011.
Trump: LaGuardia Airport is "Third World," says he's "Bigger" than Romney
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With his poll numbers up, the perpetual publicity hound sought to gain further traction Sunday by attacking his hometown - dismissing LaGuardia Airport as "Third World."
"You land your plane at LaGuardia Airport, you go to LaGuardia Airport, it's like a Third World airport," Trump scoffed on CNN's "State of the Union."
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Trump also hammered at his putative competitor Mitt Romney Sunday - boasting that he was richer than Romney.
"I'm much bigger than this man and have a much, much bigger net worth," Trump scoffed. "I mean my net worth is many, many, many times Mitt Romney."
Trump claims that if he decides to run and is forced to fully reveal his much-questioned actual worth, people will be surprised at how strong his finances are.
The establishment tries to cut him down before its too late.
Club for Growth slams Trump as 'tax-hiking liberal'
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He's made the round of talk shows discussing what's wrong with President Obama and U.S. standing in around the globe. The billionaire real estate executive has gone from Republican to Democrat to independent and now back to Republican, proclaiming on Sean Hannity's show that he's "very conservative."
The fiscally conservative group Club for Growth, which has had some success backing GOP candidates on the political right, doesn't think so.
In a news release today, the Club for Growth slams Trump as a "tax-hiking liberal" who backs "single-payer health care" and protectionism. The group's news release goes on to quote passages from Trump's 2000 book, The America We Deserve, and reports on Fox News and CNN highlighting Trump's past statements.
One example from the book: Trump said "we must have universal health care" and eventually move to a "single-payer plan that is affordable, well-administered and provides freedom of choice."
Source: USA Today
And Trump has gotten his first endorsement.
Gary Busey: Trump would be 'absolutely good' president
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He also said he would vote for Donald Trump, even though he fired him [on APPRENTICE], because he "would be an absolutely good" president. "He knows about this country. He knows the situation we're in now. I have great respect for sitting president Barack Obama. I will not dismiss that."
Also, to whom would the President's birth certificate be made available? What would he do with it? Dsplay it under a glass seal in the White House lobby? Factcheck.org examined it in 2008 and found it original. Hawaii officials both appointed and elected have viewed it and verified it. Now what? If you examined it, how in the world could one tell if it was authentic?
The 30% in that particular echo chamber will never believe Obama was born in the U.S., so all this nonsense is useless. These people remind me of all the crazies who keep saying the world is coming to an end. Remember all the Y-2K nonsense? Now they are saying the end is 2012 because of the Mayan calendar. IN 20133 IT WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE.
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"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
A plurality of Republican voters, 47 percent, said they believed Mr. Obama, who was born in Hawaii, was born in another country; 22 percent said they did not know where he was born, and 32 percent said they believed he was born in the United States.
Can the GOP solve its birther problem before it's too late?
Can the GOP solve its birther problem before it's too late?
No.
I think they've actually conceded. Now they're just doing this to break balls. Just three months ago there was a chance I would have voted Republican in 2012. Now, unless Reagan comes back from the dead, there's no possible way; and I think I speak for a lot of moderate voters when I say this. Between Trump and everything else, they've made themselves unelectable until 2016. At the very least.
The establishment should have put a muzzle on Sarah Palin, and Faux News should have fired Glenn Beck, a lot sooner. They'd be in much better shape today.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Can the GOP solve its birther problem before it's too late?
No.
I think they've actually conceded. Now they're just doing this to break balls. Just three months ago there was a chance I would have voted Republican in 2012. Now, unless Reagan comes back from the dead, there's no possible way; and I think I speak for a lot of moderate voters when I say this. Between Trump and everything else, they've made themselves unelectable until 2016. At the very least.
The establishment should have put a muzzle on Sarah Palin, and Faux News should have fired Glenn Beck, a lot sooner. They'd be in much better shape today.
i heard the republicans freezed reagans body, in hopes to use his DNA to make the next great republican.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Election 2012
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Pretty disturbing isn't it? I read a couple times that the Tea Party people were mostly college educated. Really????
Here's another clip from a couple years ago.
TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
Just when you thought Trump was done with foolish statements comes this one:
"Real estate mogul Donald Trump suggested in an interview Monday that President Barack Obama had been a poor student who did not deserve to be admitted to the Ivy League universities he attended.
Trump, who is mulling a bid for the Republican presidential nomination, offered no proof for his claim but said he would continue to press the matter as he has the legitimacy of the president's birth certificate.
"I heard he was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" Trump said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records.""
When will Trump go away?
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"After all, we are not communists"
Christopher Moltisanti: You ever think what a coincidence it is that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease?
Tony Soprano: Yeah well, when you're married, you'll understand the importance of fresh produce.
Did you hear about Robert DeNiro commenting on Trump's behavior asking "How dare he?" Trump replied saying that DeNiro "wasn't the brightest bulb in the box" and basically called him stupid ("he's no Einstein") . I'll try to find the link.
Thing is, I never liked or disliked Trump. He never bothered me. He was the rich guy who owned some Vegas hotels. It wasn't til all this bullshit that I see what a huge ego the guy has and just how much of a jerk he is.
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"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
Yeah I agree and I used to love Trump. Thought he was a funny guy, but after all this nonsense lately I can't help but question his intelligence. He's definitely not the brightest bulb in the box.
"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
I love how Trump would have you believe he was self made, like Fred Trump wasn't one of the biggest New York City real estate developers of the 20th century.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Here's an interesting spin on the debate over Obama's true heritage
Bombshell: Barack Obama conclusively outed as CIA creation
Far from being the mere ‘son of a goat herder’ (as he deceptively paraded during and even before his candidacy), strong evidence has emerged that President Barack Obama is the product of the intelligence community. Investigative reporter and former NSA employee Wayne Madsen has put together an extensive three-part (and growing) series with conclusive proof and documentation that Barack Obama Sr., Stanley Ann Dunham, Lolo Soetoro and President Barack Obama himself all hold deep ties to the CIA and larger intelligence community. And that’s just the beginning.
After his election, President Obama quickly moved to seal off his records via an executive order. Now, after two years of hints and clues, there is substantial information to demonstrate that what Obama has omitted is that his rare rise to power can only be explained by his intelligence roots. However, this is more than the story of one man or his family. There is a long-term strategic plan to recruit promising candidates into intelligence and steer these individuals and their families into positions of influence and power. Consider that it is now declassified former British Prime Minister Tony Blair was recruited into MI5 before becoming a labour leader, or that George H. W. Bush not only became CIA director in 1976 but had a deeper past in the organization. While we may never know many pertinent details about these matters, one thing that is certain is that the American people have never been told the truth about who holds the real power, nor who this president– and likely many others– really is. Thus, we urge everyone to read Wayne Madsen’s deep report and seek the truth for yourself.
PART 1: The Story of Obama: All in The Company (Part I)
Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has discovered CIA files that document the agency’s connections to institutions and individuals figuring prominently in the lives of Barack Obama and his mother, father, grandmother, and stepfather. The first part of his report highlights the connections between Barack Obama, Sr. and the CIA-sponsored operations in Kenya to counter rising Soviet and Chinese influence among student circles and, beyond, to create conditions obstructing the emergence of independent African leaders.
President Obama’s own work in 1983 for Business International Corporation, a CIA front that conducted seminars with the world’s most powerful leaders and used journalists as agents abroad, dovetails with CIA espionage activities conducted by his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham in 1960s post-coup Indonesia on behalf of a number of CIA front operations, including the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and the Ford Foundation. Dunham met and married Lolo Soetoro, Obama’s stepfather, at the East-West Center in 1965. Soetoro was recalled to Indonesia in 1965 to serve as a senior army officer and assist General Suharto and the CIA in the bloody overthrow of President Sukarno.
"I heard he was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" Trump said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records.""
When will Trump go away?
Yes, because the terrible students are always picked to be editor of the Law Review, like President Obama was.
I love how Trump would have you believe he was self made, like Fred Trump wasn't one of the biggest New York City real estate developers of the 20th century.
Yeah I wonder where Donald would be if it hadn't been for his ultra rich father. No wonder Donald tries to stick up for Paris Hilton. Yeah this is a guy who actually had the nerve to say she was sharper than a fox. This is only because they were both born with silver spoons in their mouths and this tells you everything you need to know about Donald Trump.
"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
The White House is handing out long-form copies of the Birth Certificate to the press.
Either they're genuinely trying to squash this nonsense once and for all, stirring the shitpot to Trump's advantage (and GOP's disadvantage), or....hell if I know.
I just heard the President's statement to the press. He didn't name names, but he said that while the nation has so many important things to deal with, unemployment, rising gas prices, the budget, etc., he was discouraged to see that this "silliness" had dominated the recent news cycle. He wanted to do this to quiet the "side shows and carnival barkers". Ouch.
He said that we all had better things to do, and then left the podium without taking any questions. I see that Trump doesn't even have the class to admit he was wrong. Jerk.
I heard part of Obama's comments and I agree with him. It was pointed out that it would have probably been to his advantage politically to NOT release it. It makes the fringe look even more fringier. He never had this long form and they reported he sent someone to Hawaii last night to get it. Do you really really think this will keep the nutjobs quiet??? Read a few of the comments in Yahoo's story and you'll see these kinds of comments, "if I had two years I could make a fake one too", "his mom was a minor when he was born (?)" or simply "fake". All these whackos imho are too afraid to say the real reason why they are making this an issue. The REAL reason why they hate Obama so much and it has nothing to do with politics.
Oh, and the Right leaning media should be ashamed of themselves for feeding into this crap too.
TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
TIS, when people start to pick on crap like his birthplace and his grades, it simply means that they can't find anything of substance to criticize. Let them fling their crap.
TIS, when people start to pick on crap like his birthplace and his grades, it simply means that they can't find anything of substance to criticize. Let them fling their crap.
Oh, and Donald Trump is "acting" like he's some kind of hero for this. He said just the other day that "you wouldn't believe what my people have found." Ok, tell us what they found. His latest rant of course is questioning Obama's smarts and what/how he got into Harvard, etc. Watch, that'll be the next issue for the birthers. Let it go birthers, Obama WON.
TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
So he could have shown this thing months ago and ended it then, but instead let it fester in the media while troops are dying, gas prices are through the roof, and people are out of work.
It wasn't til all this bullshit that I see what a huge ego the guy has and just how much of a jerk he is. 
