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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #597499
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Ron Paul supporter files complaint against Donald Trump

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Supporters of the Texas congressman, who is contemplating a 2012 White House bid, have tussled with the real estate mogul/presidential hopeful before, notably over whether Paul could get elected president.

The complaint by Shawn Michael Thompson stems from the recent visit by Trump Executive Vice President Michael Cohen, who flew on Trump's jet to Des Moines. Thompson alleges in his complaint that the plane trip violates campaign-finance law because Trump hasn't filed the necessary paperwork to show that he is officially testing the waters for the presidency.



http://content.usatoday.com/communities/...l-election--1/1

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #597794
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Pawlenty's "Southern" drawl takes Minnesotans by surprise

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On a trip to Iowa last week, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty attracted attention not for his policy positions, but for the way he was speaking. Many people thought they heard him using a southern accent.

Back in Pawlenty's home state of Minnesota, an MPR News listener said when he heard a report on the Pawlenty speech on the radio, he couldn't believe who it was.

"I didn't understand where the accent came from," said Mike Supina, a St. Paul architect. "He sounded like he was from Arkansas."



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Pawlenty, who lives in Eagan, is from the south — South St. Paul, that is. MPR News asked a few people at Pro Pharmacy in downtown South St. Paul to listen to part of Pawlenty's Iowa speech.

All but one had no idea it was their city's native son speaking.

"He didn't even talk like that when he was governor," Lois Simon said, adding that he sounded like George Bush.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/03/16/pawlenty-southern-drawl/


You know I would expect this from Romney. I hope he doesn't get any ideas.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #597821
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Well I think that anyone who speaks with a southern drawl should be precluded from the Presidency whistle.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Well I think that anyone who speaks with a southern drawl should be precluded from the Presidency whistle.


lol lol I couldn't have said it better myself.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #597941
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No folks, this isn't a gag.

Poll: Charlie Sheen beats Palin

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Asked whether they would vote for Sarah Palin or Charlie Sheen in the 2012 Presidential election, Independents choose Sheen by 41 percent to 36 percent.

Source: PPP


Wow.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #597945
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
No folks, this isn't a gag.

Poll: Charlie Sheen beats Palin

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Asked whether they would vote for Sarah Palin or Charlie Sheen in the 2012 Presidential election, Independents choose Sheen by 41 percent to 36 percent.

Source: PPP



Wow.


I second that Wow.


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No folks, this isn't a gag.

Poll: Charlie Sheen beats Palin

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Asked whether they would vote for Sarah Palin or Charlie Sheen in the 2012 Presidential election, Independents choose Sheen by 41 percent to 36 percent.

Source: PPP



Wow.


I second that Wow.


i probably should get a plane ticket to Switzerland pretty soon since i have no faith at all with the voters any more

Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #597996
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
...I think that anyone who speaks with a southern drawl should be precluded from the Presidency...



Well gee, since 3 of the past 6 Presidents had one (Carter, Clinton, and Bush 43)...I would guess the majority of American voters don't share that POV.


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I'm waiting to see the Left's reaction to Obama's decision about Libya.


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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
...I think that anyone who speaks with a southern drawl should be precluded from the Presidency...



Well gee, since 3 of the past 6 Presidents had one (Carter, Clinton, and Bush 43)...I would guess the majority of American voters don't share that POV.


I agree. (Please! Someone! Stop me before I agree again!). What's a southern accent have to do with the Presidential qualifications. I can visualize that amendment debate in Congress and state legislatures. Hell, while we're at it, how about liking possum stew and grits, hogback and chitterlings?

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Originally Posted By: olivant
...I agree. (Please! Someone! Stop me before I agree again!)...


It's too late. You have stepped over to the dark side one time too many.

Nobeody can help...you belong to me now.

BWHA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!


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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Originally Posted By: olivant
...I agree. (Please! Someone! Stop me before I agree again!)...


It's too late. You have stepped over to the dark side one time too many.

Nobeody can help...you belong to me now.

BWHA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #598048
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PPP: Ohio '12

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2012 President

50% Obama (D), 38% Gingrich (R)
48% Obama (D), 41% Huckabee (R)
52% Obama (D), 36% Palin (R)
46% Obama (D), 40% Romney (R)

Obama Job Approval

47% Approve, 46% Disapprove

Favorable / Unfavorable

Newt Gingrich: 24 / 56
Mike Huckabee: 36 / 42
Sarah Palin: 31 / 59
Mitt Romney: 33 / 43


Fun Fact: GOP has never won the White House without Ohio.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #598066
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...Fun Fact: GOP has never won the White House without Ohio.


Your 'Fun Fact' reminded me of an unintentionally hilarious moment during Election Night 2004, during which incumbent Bush already had a decent lead over Sen. John Kerry.

Dan Rather was desperately reciting to Bob Schieffer the electorial mathematics of how Kerry might come back even if Bush took Ohio. After listening patiently, Schieffer simply replied: "Kerry can't win without Ohio."

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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
...I think that anyone who speaks with a southern drawl should be precluded from the Presidency...

Well gee, since 3 of the past 6 Presidents had one (Carter, Clinton, and Bush 43)...I would guess the majority of American voters don't share that POV.

I agree. (Please! Someone! Stop me before I agree again!). What's a southern accent have to do with the Presidential qualifications. I can visualize that amendment debate in Congress and state legislatures. Hell, while we're at it, how about liking possum stew and grits, hogback and chitterlings?

Christ Almighty, I was joking lol. Although the drawl didn't work out very well for Carter or Bush, did it? tongue


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: pizzaboy] #598091
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... Although the drawl didn't work out very well for Carter or Bush, did it?...


Not too sure about that.

Carter - One Term
Clinton & Bush - Two Terms.


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Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #598503
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Carter, Dubya, and Clinton.

So two mediocre uninspiring (at best) guys and Clinton, who as the most liked ex-President alive is probably more popular (by rose-tinted glasses) now than when he left office, when he exited with the highest Gallup-polled approval rating for an outgoing President.

But even taking a step back into reality, what was Clinton's accomplishments? Name one that didn't involve the economy whether balancing the budget or NAFTA or the Wall Street upswing? OK the NATO intervention in the Balkans, but what else?

Clinton, whether an insult or a honest analysis, is the Democratic Calvin Coolidge. Now that's an obscure political science reference for y'all.

Re: Election 2012 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #598504
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Now the Tea Party's champion has thrown their hat into the '12 ring.

Michelle Bachmann to run for President

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Minnesota Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann plans to file papers for a potential US presidential bid in June, and possibly even earlier.

A source close to Bachmann told CNN that she may the file papers to form a presidential exploratory committee even earlier than June so she can take part in early Republican presidential debates.

“She’s been telling everyone early June,” the source said. “But nothing is static.”
Three GOP presidential primary debates are planned before and during early June: The first one on May 2 at the Ronald Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California and another on May 5 in South Carolina. CNN plans a GOP presidential primary debate in New Hampshire in early June.

CNN also reports that a complete team for Iowa, a crucial state to win in the primaries, will be completed by the end of the weekend. Iowa Republican state Sen. Kent Sorenson, a favorite among Tea Party members, will head the team.



So Palin but without the tabloid, target sights baggage? Awesome. For those who don't know about Bachmann, here is a reminder.


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To paraphrase a fatal Kerry saying: I was for the war before I was against it.

Newt Attacks Obama For Bombing Libya Weeks After Demanding Obama Bomb Libya

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/...-bomb-libya.php

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Bachmann is so very very out there that if she won the nomination it would be tantamount to giving the election away. And there's a good chance there might be another SC opening after 2012. You never know. So I think to the extent that they exist the Republican powers that be will ensure that Bachmann does not win.


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I'm still trying to understand her statements about the Founding Fathers eliminating slavery and her praise for residents of New Hampshire since it was the location of the battle of Lexington and Concord.

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The GOP is not going to nominate any of the clowns or duds whose names we see bandied about every day unless they think
Obama is unbeatable If they think they have a chance to take the White House after the primaries, you'll see a deadlocked convention and a "reluctant" Jeb Bush accepting the noomination on the second ballot.


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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Bachmann is so very very out there that if she won the nomination it would be tantamount to giving the election away. And there's a good chance there might be another SC opening after 2012. You never know. So I think to the extent that they exist the Republican powers that be will ensure that Bachmann does not win.


I would laugh with you, since someone else said the same about Palin'12. Then I read that new Gallup poll (to be posted later) and...I can't just dimiss either figures.

As much as we want to dismiss Bachmann as a hack, she effectively is Palin without the tabloid baggage and the Tucson "blood libel" major PR screwups. (aside from the embarrasing "Tea Party Response," which even then gave her some national exposure.)

Problem with the Tea Party is, its too small to take over the RNC and implement party policy yet its too big to to be ignored. Thus the last 2 years we've had a inner-party civil war between the Teabaggers and the establishment. A good example of this recently and telling was GOP firing Michael Steele as RNC chairman in their party election, despite Steele being head of the organization during the massive House landslide victory and gained several Senate seats. He became a casualty because he wasn't acceptable enough tot he Teabagger delegates.

'12 looks like such a fluid unpredictable field. What else can explain Newt Gingrich in the double digits? That's bullshit. Not saying Bachmann/Palin will be the nominee, but the fact they still contend still leaves open that possiblity.


Originally Posted By: dontomasso
The GOP is not going to nominate any of the clowns or duds whose names we see bandied about every day unless they think
Obama is unbeatable If they think they have a chance to take the White House after the primaries, you'll see a deadlocked convention and a "reluctant" Jeb Bush accepting the noomination on the second ballot.


I could see the Establishment and Tea Party much earlier in the primaries settle upon a compromise candidate. The one problem with your scenario is it makes sense for the Democrats and their convention formula of proportional delegates, while the GOP's primary format of winner-takes-all makes such a deadlock less likely. Which was sorta the point of that decision in the first place: Weed out the competition quickly and find their candidate.

But jesus all these candidates suck. I know the Pawlenty camp think he's that "compromise" candidate, but ever seen Timmy?


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Did anyone see Gingrich last night on Greta? His face looked bruised or otherwise injured or blotched.


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Gingrich is truly a disgusting human being. Did he ever pay back the money Bob Dole loaned him to bail him out of some kind of fine in the '90's?

I especially liked Gingrich railing against Obama two weeks ago for not going into Libya, and now railing against him for going into Libya.

Hey how about a Barbor-Gingrich ticket? They could call themselves the "GOP Heavyweights."


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Gallup: '12 GOP Field

Huckabee 19%
Romney 15%
Palin 12%
Gingrich 10%

If Huckabee doesn't run

Romney 19%
Palin 17%
Gingrich 13%
Paul 8%

If Palin doesn't run

Huckabee 23%
Romney 16%
Gingrich 12%

If Palin/Huckabee both don't run

Romney 22%
Gingrich 16%
Paul 9%
Bachmann 7%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/146792/Huckabee-Slight-Edge-Palin-Down-GOP-Preferences.aspx

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Gallup: '12 GOP Field

Huckabee 19%
Romney 15%
Palin 12%
Gingrich 10%

If Huckabee doesn't run

Romney 19%
Palin 17%
Gingrich 13%
Paul 8%

If Palin doesn't run

Huckabee 23%
Romney 16%
Gingrich 12%

If Palin/Huckabee both don't run

Romney 22%
Gingrich 16%
Paul 9%
Bachmann 7%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/146792/Huckabee-Slight-Edge-Palin-Down-GOP-Preferences.aspx


lets hope for the best that the third option happens

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I still have a hunch that the GOP's golden boy, Christie will run even though he says not. Btw, isn't there a date by which you must "announce" that you are gonna run? I wanna say June????? Or is it open? confused


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If Christie wants to run...I would wait till summer at the earliest. Let these also-rans beat up on Huckabee/Romney/Palin and then he can ride in excitement as the savior.

Or Anne Coulter's savior at least. Until he gets torn down to their level.

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Oh, and let's not forget Donald Trump. Talk about a mish mosh of people. lol



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