I will post more when I get home tonight, I only have a minute before I go to work here, but two quick things.

You guys say you don't like the draft time, but haven't said if you can make it or not. If you can't make it, SAY SO PLEASE. I don't want to be the only one that can make the draft. For years the draft time has been an inconvenience for me but I still made it.

Also, the new point system for pitchers doesn't lessen the importance of elite pitchers. It evens the gap. It makes the other stats of a pitcher more important, while taking away so many points for a win for not so good pitchers who happen to be on a team like the Yankees with too good of an offense to win for them, even if they give up 5 runs.

The rules weren't changed mid season so I don't understand the uproar here. It's been discussed heavily, why get so upset?

After you and I both expressed our opinion about the time/day change, and it was changed anyway without a single person coming forward to say they suggested it, or that they even like it, I said to myself "I'm done wasting my breath with my opinions and concerns".

If it was "discussed heavily", I missed it. I remember it being brought up briefly last season, but I don't remember it being suggested it be changed so drastically. As for the draft, I can make it, but I will be getting little sleep now because I have to be in Jersey at 5AM Monday morning.

Re: Draft time... I asked you guys to work with me to come up with a solution that helps out one of our members who misses draft after draft during the weekdays. I asked for your availability during the weekends. The only comments I got back was "I don't like it." Fine, but I thought in the 48 hours during the weekend, we might find a time that works. I put up the suggested Sunday night time and asked if a better time works. Not one comment on another suggested time that might work until JL's above re: one hour earlier. Not one.

Re: Pitcher scoring... I posted the change on March 11th and not until JG's comment early this morning (March 14th), I had no idea people had issues with it. Once JG makes his comment, the claws come out.

I don't consider myself a dictator, guys. You may not think so, but I always ask for your opinions. If you don't speak up, I have to assume you're ok with it. I can't read minds. It is before the season, and if you all feel less drastic change in pitching should be made, I'm FINE with it. If people are OK with moving the draft one hour earlier (I am), I'm FINE with it.

I don't get why people are getting so worked up about things that can still be changed. I also don't get other people's insinuations that I'm incalcitrant when the changes causing these issues were based on other people's suggestions.

Well, Umm, it might have had something to do with JG baiting me last night to take my claws out.

Since you said you were sick and wanted to chop your head off, I'll ignore your chopping everyone else's head off here.

I don't have a problem with having the draft an hour or two earlier on Sunday evening.

And I don't have a problem with compromising on the decreasing the win/loss stats -- somewhere in the middle rather than so drastically. It'll be better than it was without obliterating the stats altogether.

And finally, I agree that saying nothing helps no one.

Motions on the floor then. Please speak up.

- Move the draft one our earlier. 7 PM CT / 8 PM ET.
- Change pitching stats to 4 pts win / -2 for a loss (3 points off on each side from before).

Super-majority (more than 75%) is needed to pass the motion. A non-vote means no change (i.e., keep the draft time, keep 3/0 for W/L).

How's that for democracy?

"Ignore it"? Not only did you encourage it, you offered me BB immunity to do it.

...is there such a thing as "Sudafed Rage"?

8 PM is better than 9 PM for me, and 4/-2 is better than 3/0.

sometimes I get the feeling that people don't listen to what I say or don't read what I write, but come on here...



yes that's how I feel. I still support the 3/0 W/L set up.

if a starting pitcher is "dominant", that would be because he throws deep into games without allowing too many hits and earned runs, while walking few batter and striking out a lot. now what does he has to lose by not scoring more points for wins that all the other undeserving underachievers won't score too?

Congratulations. You'll get your rule change. There never was a chance of it being changed back or modified anyway because we never hear a peep out of 1/2 the owners in the league and they automatically count for your change for some reason.

other than throwing one sarcastic comment after another, why don't you put some reasoning behind your rambling? I did it regarding my change but all I heard from you is it is dumb.

the way I see, "Wins" are meaningless and "Losses" are double-penalty. maybe if you enlightened me...

Don't tell me what to do.

I don't know about you guys, but the way we're starting out this year, this league is going to be really competitive.

What? No vote on being able to see what JL really wrote?!

BTW, what I meant by super-majority was the six guys who are active on this board - JG, JL, TM, BL, TM, YO, and myself (and BAM and LN, if they end up playing.)

it must've been so nice JG got jealous

I don't know what's happening here. I still believe the scoring change is a visionary move that makes us the coolest league in the world.

The changes above are fine with me. Draft time an hour earlier, and the 4/-2 pt. change. It's subtle enough to keep us debating it all year before next years draft

Scoring change has already been decided. DB only needed 1 vote to defeat the "super majority" for it stay 3/0. Even if the other 5 active board members want it changed, 2/7 is 28% of the vote. There was never a chance it was getting changed.

Hold on there... We've yet to hear from Yogi, but by my math, 5 of 6 are ok with 4/-2 so far, which is greater than 75%

You're voting against your original change? If so, I stand corrected. There is still a chance then.

yes but when someone wants to start a beef, a beef shall be started.

I am in again folks, don't start worrying eh?

Just to say that the points causing concern with some of the guys are not a problem to me but i always auto draft anyways and have no real visions of winning so there you go.....

I am planning on second this year

after all, this is all about having fun isn't it?

It is for me but i am not American so baseball is not life and death to me....

I hope so!

Problem, fellas. After all this debating, a move one hour earlier isn't even available. [insert clubs and pitchforks here]

The nearest earlier times available on Sunday are 4:00, 4:15, 4:30, 4:45 all Central. I am personally available, but this may be difficult because it's in the middle of the day. In any case, please speak up if 4:30 works. Thanks.

P.S. - Of course, another alternative (may be preferred to bypass another round of votes) is to just keep the time we have now, with my sincere apologies for the lost hour of sleep.

With any luck, it'll start becoming fun soon.

4:30 (5:30 ET) is doable for me, but I can see how it might not be for some...

same here