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Re: Lupertazzis based upon... [Re: Mastronardo] #659866
08/12/12 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mastronardo
Originally Posted By: Camarel
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I assume the Sopranos were based on the DeCavalcantes, and the Lupertazzis on the Gambinos.

Key points to back up my thinking are the following:

1. John Sacrimoni and John Gotti were both incarcerated in a prison but later transferred to the United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners in Springfield, Missouri. They both died from cancer.

2. Sacrimoni came to Tony Soprano and asked him to murder Lupertazzi capo Rusty Millio in Season Six. John Gotti also requested another family, the DeCavalcante guys, to clip someone. The murder of Fred Weiss wasn’t so different than when Rusty was whacked — Milio was in his car, Weiss was by his car.

3. The shooting of Big Paul Castellano is very similar to when Phil Leotardo’s hitters took out Faustino “Doc” Santoro.


Good point i never thought of Johnny Sac and John Gotti maybe they were based on the Gambinos but i still think the DiMeos were based on the NJ branch of the Luchesse family .

There are many options for who the Sopranos were ideally modelled on. The New York Lupertazzi family on the other hand, are definitely the fictional Gambinos in my opinion. Stepping away from John Sacrimoni; In the Gambino family, John Gotti Sr. wanted his son to take over, Carmine Lupertazzi Sr. wanted the same thing — Carmine Jr. (John Gotti Jr.) taking over. Also, the Gambinos and the Lupertazzis were both based in Brooklyn and Queens.


I wouldn't say definitely i agree with some people in this thread that it's a mix of the 5.

Re: Lupertazzis based upon... [Re: joey_doves] #659942
08/13/12 12:52 PM
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I’ve come up with reasons on why the fictonal Lupertazzi Crime Family might have been based on the Genoveses, the Colombos and the Patriarcas.

THE COLOMBO CRIME FAMILY:
- Vito’s sudden loss of weight resembles the health problems which were suffered by Colombo Crime Family capo Gerald Clemenza.
THE GENOVESE CRIME FAMILY:
- The man who spotted Vito in the gay bar was named Sal Iacuzzo — David Chase said that Iacuzzo was based on real-life Genovese Crime Family capo Matthew (Matty the Horse) Ianniello.
Outside of the FIVE FAMILIES:
- Gerry Torciano, a rising star with the Lupertazzis, was shot in a similar way that Patriarca Crime Family boss Frank Salemme, except Salemme did not die.

Re: Lupertazzis based upon... [Re: Mastronardo] #659947
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Originally Posted By: Mastronardo
I’ve come up with reasons on why the fictonal Lupertazzi Crime Family might have been based on the Genoveses, the Colombos and the Patriarcas.

THE COLOMBO CRIME FAMILY:
- Vito’s sudden loss of weight resembles the health problems which were suffered by Colombo Crime Family capo Gerald Clemenza.
THE GENOVESE CRIME FAMILY:
- The man who spotted Vito in the gay bar was named Sal Iacuzzo — David Chase said that Iacuzzo was based on real-life Genovese Crime Family capo Matthew (Matty the Horse) Ianniello.
Outside of the FIVE FAMILIES:
- Gerry Torciano, a rising star with the Lupertazzis, was shot in a similar way that Patriarca Crime Family boss Frank Salemme, except Salemme did not die.


Another reason for the Genovese is uncle Junes wandering about in a dressing gown like Gigante. Also Vito may have been based on the Decalvacante guy ( can't remember his name ) who was killed for being gay.

Re: Lupertazzis based upon... [Re: Camarel] #659965
08/13/12 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: Mastronardo
I’ve come up with reasons on why the fictonal Lupertazzi Crime Family might have been based on the Genoveses, the Colombos and the Patriarcas.

THE COLOMBO CRIME FAMILY:
- Vito’s sudden loss of weight resembles the health problems which were suffered by Colombo Crime Family capo Gerald Clemenza.
THE GENOVESE CRIME FAMILY:
- The man who spotted Vito in the gay bar was named Sal Iacuzzo — David Chase said that Iacuzzo was based on real-life Genovese Crime Family capo Matthew (Matty the Horse) Ianniello.
Outside of the FIVE FAMILIES:
- Gerry Torciano, a rising star with the Lupertazzis, was shot in a similar way that Patriarca Crime Family boss Frank Salemme, except Salemme did not die.


Another reason for the Genovese is uncle Junes wandering about in a dressing gown like Gigante. Also Vito may have been based on the Decalvacante guy ( can't remember his name ) who was killed for being gay.


For sure. I think when Junior’s dementia worsens, him walking off in a rope could easily have been based on The Chin’s actions. The DeCavalcante acting boss who was killed because of his rumored closet homosexuality was named Johnny Boy D’Amato, and yes, it is possible that Vito was inspired on him although their ranks were different.

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Re: Lupertazzis based upon... [Re: joey_doves] #660212
08/15/12 02:44 AM
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As for who Tony Soprano was made after Ive always just figured it was a mixture of a few guys (V. Ocean, Taccetta, etc) but I've heard that Chase made the family after Richie the Boot from a few different sources. Not sure how reliable this link is tho.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453150/Savagery-greed-life-crime--meet-real-Sopranos.html

Re: Lupertazzis based upon... [Re: joey_doves] #950282
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It’s so hard to tell.

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