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Re: Arrests [Re: Dapper_Don] #591498
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
This is a chart of all the guys taken down by the FBI, this was put out by the FBI

http://www.mediafire.com/?n049saqc2labczn


Great! This is a lot easier to understand than all those large newspaper articles. wink


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Re: Arrests [Re: tt120] #591499
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Originally Posted By: tt120

Also I couldn't help but notice the age of some of the Gambino guys. A few in their 30s and 40s...even a captain in the 30s. Seems relatively young for this day and age. Shows that things are still movin along in the city...or on staten island at least ...


There seems to be plenty of young guys around. It's the GoodFellas generation. Hollywood has given us a gang of young mafia wannabes. This explains the age gap.


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Re: Arrests [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #591500
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Heres the rundown:

No made guys from the Lucchese (1 Associate) or Bonanno's (3 Associates) was taken down. 2 Genovese Soldiers, 2 Decalvacante Soldiers, from the Gambinos Bobby Vernace(Ruling Panel), Joseph Corozzo (Consiglieri), Luis Mastrangelo (Capo), Alphonse Trucchio (Capo), and eight 8 other Soldiers, plus 22 associates. The Colombos have the entire administration taken down. Andrew Russo (Street Boss), Benjamin Castellazo (Acting Underboss), Richard Fusco (Consiglieri), Teddy Persico Jr (Former Ruling Panel), Joseph Carna (Capo), Dennis Delucia (Capo), Reynold Maragni (Capo), Anthony Russo (Acting Capo), plus 8 Soldiers, and 18 associates.

Decapitating strike against the Colombos!


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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591503
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It'll be intresting to see what becomes of all this

Re: Arrests [Re: pizzaboy] #591505
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Its never the end for the New York Families, it is sure a huge blow. But they will recover, it aint over yet.

As I've posted many times before, Mukremin (as have Ivy, Turnbull, Lilo and many of the other knowledgeable posters here): The Families will be around for quite some time. For as long as people want to gamble, borrow money and buy drugs (and that's pretty much forever), but it will NEVER be the same.

I'm not trying to offend you because you seem like a bright kid and I enjoy your enthusiasm about the subject of organized crime, but I think that living halfway around the world, coupled with the fact that you're still quite young, blinds you to the fact that these guys are a shadow of their former selves. Sitting by your computer and rooting for them to return to their glory days will not make it happen.

You just don't understand American law enforcement. Although it's at times quite prejudicial (a fact that drives me insane), they place Italian-American gangsters second only to Middle-Eastern terrorists on their "bad guy" lists. They'll cut a deal with the Taliban before they'll allow American Cosa Nostra to completely rebuild.

Again, please don't get offended by my singling you out like this. If you like, feel free to pm me whenever you want smile.


Yeah i understand, but its just my own opinion. No one has to agree with it, and i dont have to agree with everyone else. I respect all the members here, and seems that everyone has an opinion and no one else is getting lectured smile

On topic:
This is indeed big, but time will show who will be really put in prison. Thanks for the pdf Dapper Don


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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591511
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I honestly see one route the Colombo family can now take: Completely sever all ties to Persico and his supporters and restart. I genuinely believe that the Profaci crime organization as it was once known is done.

Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591512
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I am just waiting for Capeci or whoever else to reveal who were the informants wearing wires or who flipped if anyboyd...that would be interesting.

Any predictions?

I say a few Colombo guys from the ones picked up today jump ship and maybe a Gambino as well. I dont see any Genovese guys talking.


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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591513
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Also, does anybody have ANY photos from the arrests? I am dying to see what some of these guys look like, especially Vernace.

Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591514
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Originally Posted By: ovation32
Also, does anybody have ANY photos from the arrests? I am dying to see what some of these guys look like, especially Vernace.


same, just seen the video and some pics of them being booked from behind, all of them looking like bums! I have seen homeless people on the subway who were dressed better than these guys, whatever happened to the days of wearing a classy suit so when the cameras see you you dont look like a jerkoff? Images of Gotti, Locascio, and others remind me of this, then again those guys probably know they were getting arrested they got tipped off. If I was going down I wear my best suit for the cameras go out in style.

I read on another forum this member posted that he knows this guy who some "guys" from NJ and he was saying that they were waiting for the FEDS to pick them up this morning before the raids even started cause apparently some of them were tipped off.


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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591515
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Originally Posted By: ovation32
I honestly see one route the Colombo family can now take: Completely sever all ties to Persico and his supporters and restart. I genuinely believe that the Profaci crime organization as it was once known is done.


thats what i have been preaching for quite some time now, all the persicos should be outcast and the family should start rebuilding, follow the joe massino model (before he flipped) just make close members(sons,family) of made guys already so that people will be less likely to flip cause they will be hurting their blood family as well as the crime family.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591525
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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591527
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This is untill know a major event. Withing a few days well know the details. According some defense counselers, some of the clients will flip. I wonder if it will be the top Colombo guys who will flip.


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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591533
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Press conference....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41172980#41172980


Looks like the Justice Dept. is working to merge it's organized crime and racketeering unit and gang division.

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Re: Arrests [Re: Mukremin] #591541
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don

just seen the video and some pics of them being booked from behind, all of them looking like bums! I have seen homeless people on the subway who were dressed better than these guys.

I will never forget the day when I saw the pictures of Tommy Shots and Dino Calabro being lead away in handcuffs. Haven't had a laugh like that since I saw Steve Martin trying to hitchhike in The Jerk.

Originally Posted By: Mukremin
This is untill know a major event. Withing a few days well know the details. According some defense counselers, some of the clients will flip. I wonder if it will be the top Colombo guys who will flip.

My predictions usually don't come true, but judging by the luck of this family I predict Allie Boy, Andy Mush, Fusco, Gioeli and Castellazzo flip on the two guys that are left..Sonny and Junior.

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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591548
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Here's a collection of all the indictments from the Justice Dept. website

http://www.justice.gov/opa/lacosanostra.htm


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Re: Arrests [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #591549
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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous

My predictions usually don't come true, but judging by the luck of this family I predict Allie Boy, Andy Mush, Fusco, Gioeli and Castellazzo flip on the two guys that are left..Sonny and Junior.


If you really think guys like Allie Boy and Andy Russo will flip, no wonder your predictions usually don't come true. wink


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Re: Arrests [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #591550
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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don

just seen the video and some pics of them being booked from behind, all of them looking like bums! I have seen homeless people on the subway who were dressed better than these guys.

I will never forget the day when I saw the pictures of Tommy Shots and Dino Calabro being lead away in handcuffs. Haven't had a laugh like that since I saw Steve Martin trying to hitchhike in The Jerk.

Originally Posted By: Mukremin
This is untill know a major event. Withing a few days well know the details. According some defense counselers, some of the clients will flip. I wonder if it will be the top Colombo guys who will flip.

My predictions usually don't come true, but judging by the luck of this family I predict Allie Boy, Andy Mush, Fusco, Gioeli and Castellazzo flip on the two guys that are left..Sonny and Junior.


LMAO! Agreed Tommy Shots was a brutal picture thats for sure, looking like a bum with a big white tshirt and shades on with his tits flopping around.


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Re: Arrests [Re: IvyLeague] #591552
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous

My predictions usually don't come true, but judging by the luck of this family I predict Allie Boy, Andy Mush, Fusco, Gioeli and Castellazzo flip on the two guys that are left..Sonny and Junior.


If you really think guys like Allie Boy and Andy Russo will flip, no wonder your predictions usually don't come true. wink


LOL, i highly doubt any of the direct Persico relatives will flip, but the rest are up for grabs...


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous

My predictions usually don't come true, but judging by the luck of this family I predict Allie Boy, Andy Mush, Fusco, Gioeli and Castellazzo flip on the two guys that are left..Sonny and Junior.


If you really think guys like Allie Boy and Andy Russo will flip, no wonder your predictions usually don't come true. wink


LOL, i highly doubt any of the direct Persico relatives will flip, but the rest are up for grabs...


I admit it's a long shot, but did anyone ever think Massino was gonna flip? After that happened, nothing surprise me anymore. Well OK, if Sonny flipped I'd be surprised.


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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Arrests [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #591565
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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous

My predictions usually don't come true, but judging by the luck of this family I predict Allie Boy, Andy Mush, Fusco, Gioeli and Castellazzo flip on the two guys that are left..Sonny and Junior.


If you really think guys like Allie Boy and Andy Russo will flip, no wonder your predictions usually don't come true. wink


LOL, i highly doubt any of the direct Persico relatives will flip, but the rest are up for grabs...


I admit it's a long shot, but did anyone ever think Massino was gonna flip? After that happened, nothing surprise me anymore. Well OK, if Sonny flipped I'd be surprised.


True, Massino flipping was a shock. But if somebody like Sonny or Carmine Persico ever flipped LCN foundation is def hurt at its core.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
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Massino was from the Gotti generation. Guys like Sonny Franzese and Carmine Persico will never flip. They go further back. Same as others like Matty Ianniello, Dominick Cirillo, and others. They will never flip.


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If you ever have any questions about the Mafia, just e-mail this guy...



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Re: Arrests [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #591572
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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
Originally Posted By: tt120

Also I couldn't help but notice the age of some of the Gambino guys. A few in their 30s and 40s...even a captain in the 30s. Seems relatively young for this day and age. Shows that things are still movin along in the city...or on staten island at least ...


There seems to be plenty of young guys around. It's the GoodFellas generation. Hollywood has given us a gang of young mafia wannabes. This explains the age gap.


Yeah, I noticed that too. Interesting all the Genovese made guys I have seen in the past and today are older like 40s and Captains around 50/60. Seems the family waits to make guys which porbably helps them avoid turncoats


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Re: Arrests [Re: ovation32] #591581
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In another post i mentioned how a few years ago the commission wanted to disband and take over the colombos but didnt out of respect for carmine.But if their entire admin and 4 capos are going to be put away i really think the other families r going to absorb them and the crews will have to start kicking up to there new bosses.If these guys in the admin were the best the colombos had to offer imagine now that they will be in jail they will have even more incompatent guys runing the family and i dont think that will happen

I think the feds r targetting the colombos because they r so weak thet they want to finish them off

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I dont see that happaning, its bad for reputation for the Colombos to get absorbed by the other 4 families. It was discussed back then, it may be discussed now. But it never ever will happen, there isnt much to gain anyways by absorbing the colombos. Its riddled with rats and informants.


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I heard the news on Dutch television and I immediately thought about my good times on this forum tongue so I went here and read the posts about this subject.

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Mukremin, looks like you may have to revamp a lot of the charts you spent a lot of time working on. Leave it to the Feds to screw things up! wink

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