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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: pizzaboy] #590215
01/08/11 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Yeah, they got the guy. Who the hell knows what this is about?

I honestly hope it's not some birther, tea party nutjob. But with everything that's been going on in Arizona lately, it very well could be.


Wait and see, even if the news media didn't (MSNBC: Tea Party!, Fox News: Immigrant!) because for all we know, its just another loser asshole who mistakes fame (or more precisely infamy) for better self-esteem. Like Mark David Chapman.

I just know the Palin fansites, PACs, etc., are taking down those "target" ads.

Little Late.

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590216
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His website content includes references to "federalist laws" and "brainwashing" and "illiterate" and having no faith in money that is not backed by gold and silver.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590218
01/08/11 05:31 PM
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The gunman is identified as Jared Lee Loughner, and (allegedly) this video came from his YouTube page. Clearly somebody that should have been in a four-wall padded room:


Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590222
01/08/11 05:45 PM
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Evidently her husband is an astronaut, who just arrived in AZ now.

Also, President Obama is due to speak any moment, followed by Governor Brewer and Nancy Pelosi.


What a horrible horrible situation. frown


TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590224
01/08/11 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
The gunman is identified as Jared Lee Loughner, and (allegedly) this video came from his YouTube page. Clearly somebody that should have been in a four-wall padded room:






Currency????? I don't get it? And illiteracy? confused


TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #590227
01/08/11 06:57 PM
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How awful. Some websites are saying six dead and others are saying five. The Congresswoman is out of surgery and expected to survive.

One thing that will definitely come out of this - the President's Secret Service coverage is going to be increased dramatically.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #590236
01/08/11 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
The gunman is identified as Jared Lee Loughner, and (allegedly) this video came from his YouTube page. Clearly somebody that should have been in a four-wall padded room:






Currency????? I don't get it? And illiteracy? confused


TIS


I'm confused about this.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Mignon] #590239
01/08/11 10:11 PM
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Just a brief follow-up for those interested. The detective in AZ just gave a news conference and apparently there is a 2nd "Person of Interest" that they are looking for. He referred to him (her) as that, not saying they were looking for a suspect.

Also, he said that the Congresswoman "was" the target. He apparently (and understandably) got a lawyer and is not talking. ohwell


TIS

Last edited by The Italian Stallionette; 01/08/11 10:31 PM.

"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #590240
01/08/11 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Just a brief follow-up for those interested. The detective in AZ just gave a news conference and apparently there is a 2nd "Person of Interest" that they are looking for. He referred to him (her) as that, not saying they were looking for a suspect.

Also, he said that the Senator "was" the target. He apparently (and understandably) got a lawyer and is not talking. ohwell


TIS


so, the shooter wanted to assassinate mccain, but instead went after giffords, as well as innocent bystanders. i hope this son of a bitch actually gets the chair, and not rot in jail.

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: BAM_233] #590241
01/08/11 10:27 PM
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Assassinate McCain?? I didn't hear that. confused He hasn't been mentioned at all that I've seen.


TIS

Edit: Oops I referred to her as Senator. I believe she's a congresswoman. Thus, no McCain. Sorry. I'll edit



Last edited by The Italian Stallionette; 01/08/11 10:32 PM.

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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #590268
01/09/11 11:55 AM
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This morning they are announcing that they are looking for a second "person of interest." They showed a picture; male, white 40 something. They are not saying he is a suspect at this time.

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TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #590274
01/09/11 01:14 PM
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News like this almost tempt me to support repeal of the 1st Amendment.


Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590275
01/09/11 01:20 PM
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RR,

I saw that too on HP. What is wrong with these people??? frown These are the same nutjobs who protest at funerals of gay service people. Lots of hate out there.


TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590276
01/09/11 01:21 PM
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The hate they spew is disgusting.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Mignon] #590278
01/09/11 02:08 PM
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The poor little girl who was killed was born on September 11, 2001.

Man, I try not to put too much stock in bad luck, but that poor kid was born to a tragic national event, then died in one.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: pizzaboy] #590280
01/09/11 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
The poor little girl who was killed was born on September 11, 2001.

Man, I try not to put too much stock in bad luck, but that poor kid was born to a tragic national event, then died in one.


I heard earlier that this little girl went with a neighbor to see the Congresswoman. Talk about being there by chance. Just like the Judge who got killed. Evidently he was just stopping by. frown

TIS


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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #590281
01/09/11 02:23 PM
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Leaked DHS Memo hint to Anti-Government/Anti-Semitic Conspiracy behind Massacre?

Quote:
...strong suspicion is being directed at AmRen / American Renaissance. Suspect is possibly linked to this group. (through videos posted on his myspace and YouTube account.). The group’s ideology is anti government, anti immigration, anti ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti Semitic. Gabrielle Gifford is the first Jewish female elected to such a high position in the US government. She was also opposite this group’s ideology when it came to immigration debate.


http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/lates.../#ixzz1AYxb5SFy

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590282
01/09/11 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
News like this almost tempt me to support repeal of the 1st Amendment.




would anybody be suprised if this group was involved in a massacre it self?

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: BAM_233] #590283
01/09/11 02:38 PM
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They're going to picket the funeral of a 9 year old girl?

You know, how big can that "church" actually be?

I know this is wrong, but I'd fucking LOVE to see someone go postal on them. Take out a dozen or so members and burn their church to the fucking ground. Then picket their funerals, and spit on their families mad.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: pizzaboy] #590284
01/09/11 03:18 PM
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Something needs to be done to shut that group up.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Mignon] #590285
01/09/11 03:28 PM
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To say they are a disgrace and that the hate they propagate is a horror is the world's greatest understatement.

I can't imagine what that little girl's parents are going through, or any of the families, for that matter. May God give them the strength to get through this somehow.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Sicilian Babe] #590288
01/09/11 04:53 PM
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Amen to that SB.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Mignon] #590294
01/09/11 06:07 PM
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I just read an article that said the little 9 year old girl victim was actually born on 9/11. Born on a tragic day in history...and dies on one.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Beth E] #590316
01/09/11 10:38 PM
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Loughner's statements tied to far right-wing conspiracy theory?

Jared Lee Loughner’s rants about grammar and mind control track closely to the writings of a conspiracy theorist who believes that is how the government controls the populace, one leading group says – and the man tells POLITICO he agrees with some of Loughner’s statements.

The far-right activist, David Wynn Miller, said in a telephone interview that he didn’t know Loughner, but agreed with his statement in a YouTube video that “the government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.”


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47329.html#ixzz1Ab0Jlpn4

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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590324
01/10/11 03:33 AM
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Judy Clarke, who has represented "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski and Zacarias Moussaoui, will be representing accused mass murderer Jared Lee Loughner.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.co...r.php?ref=fpblg

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590339
01/10/11 11:19 AM
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This morning, I saw the parents of little Christina Green interviewed. She was the 9 year old girl killed in the shooting massacre on Saturday. Her parents managed to hold it together very well, and I was so impressed with their courage. Then, the reporter asked them if they felt that Christina was looking down on them, and the father simply started to cry. It was the most heart-wrenching thing I've ever seen.

The neighbor who took Christina to the Meet and Greet was also shot. She was shot three or four times - leg, abdomen and chest, I believe. She has been stabilized and is expected to recover, but her family said they don't know if she'll ever mentally recover from being the one that took Christina to the event.

I also saw the son of Phyllis Schneck, the 79 year old retiree killed that day, tell the story of how the local police came to his door on Saturday evening to break the news. He had been trying to reach his mother all day when he realized that the shopping center was so close to her home. He was on the phone with his sister when the doorbell rang, and he said he just knew that it was bad news about their mother.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Sicilian Babe] #590346
01/10/11 12:29 PM
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The little girl who was killed was the granddaughter of Dallas Green, former manager of both the Yankees (1989) AND the Mets (1993-1996).


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Sicilian Babe] #590359
01/10/11 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
...The neighbor who took Christina to the Meet and Greet was also shot. She was shot three or four times - leg, abdomen and chest, I believe. She has been stabilized and is expected to recover, but her family said they don't know if she'll ever mentally recover from being the one that took Christina to the event...


She probably won't, and neither would I.

No reassurance from anyone, including Christina's family could ease the guilt of having been the one to have physically brought her there. It is aweful, but simply human nature.

Makes me think of every time I have taken a friend's child into my care, shopping, a movie or whatever...and fully expecting to bring them home safe and sound a few hours later. For this poor woman it wasn't to be, and my heart goes out to her.


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: AppleOnYa] #590366
01/10/11 04:01 PM
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Recent e-mail exchange over the weekend:

Beck to Palin: "An attempt on you could bring the Republic down."

http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-beck-arizona-shooting-giffords-loughner-2011-1#ixzz1Af9ryHx6

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #590367
01/10/11 04:12 PM
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Yea, how surprising. Beck comes to the defense of the mama grizzly. Don't retreat reload right? rolleyes


Anyway RR, I heard something about another congressman/senator being threatened that "you;re next". Have you heard anything about this? I am positive all these threats will HAVE to be taken seriously.

Nutjobs coming out of the woodwork.

TIS


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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

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