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#587826 - 12/11/10 07:06 PM St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts
furio_from_naples Offline

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Registered: 11/20/10
Posts: 1026

Loc: naples,italy

“Not that the so-called mob here was any great shakes. It was strictly minor league,” stated one police officer, asking not to be identified. “We never had mainliners; here they came under the jurisdiction of Chicago. Even Kansas City had more of a mob, and more muscle than St. Louis.”
– St. Louis Post-Dispatch, March 19, 1997.

St. Louis Crime family Chart
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1957/stluoiscrimefamily.jpg
for the lack of information, I may have committed errors on the family of St. Louis.I got the information on the members them on this site.
http://realdealmafia.com/stlouischart.html

Chicago Outfit Family Chart
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7967/outfitt.gif
the chart isn't mine, I found it on imageshack

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#587832 - 12/11/10 07:51 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples]
Sonny_Black Offline

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Registered: 05/30/10
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That chart comes from the Real Deal forum. It was already posted here in another topic.
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#587834 - 12/11/10 07:57 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: Sonny_Black]
Mukremin Offline

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Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 1102
Yes the Chicago outfit chart was posted here earlier, but the St Louis chart looks good. Lets see what Ivy thinks of it, i havent got much insight on the St Louis family

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#589030 - 12/24/10 02:20 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: Mukremin]
joey1717 Offline

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Registered: 12/24/10
Posts: 1
Awesome charts. Except one issue. Under the Elmwood Park associates, you have the Castaldo brothers listed. They are from Melrose Park.

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#589058 - 12/24/10 11:27 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: joey1717]
IvyLeague Offline


Registered: 08/13/08
Posts: 6533
St. Louis is basically defunct. It has nowhere near that many made guys left. And when somebody is labeled a "soldier" or higher, that implies they are made.

According to the FBI, there were 35 members in 60's, 17 in 1980, andless than 10 in late 80's. Following that same trend, how many is there likely to be 20 years after that?

From what I've seen, you've basically got a handful of made guys left there - Anthony "Nino" Parrino, Joseph Cammarata, Frank Palazzolo, Fernando "Nondo" Bartolotta, and maybe Vincent Giordano. Plus whatever associates are still around.

And the complete lack of mob activity there for the past two decades supports this.

Once again, don't always take charts you find on the internet at face value.
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#659974 - 08/13/12 07:09 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: Sonny_Black]
DickNose_Moltasanti Offline
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
That chart comes from the Real Deal forum. It was already posted here in another topic.


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#659985 - 08/13/12 07:46 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples]
m2w Offline

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Registered: 02/07/11
Posts: 775
so nino parrino and the other wiseguys left in st.louis are all retired? or maybe they asnwer directly to chicago

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#659990 - 08/13/12 08:05 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples]
short841 Offline

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Registered: 01/17/12
Posts: 649

Loc: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Thats very unlikely though m2w, You think they would know some members/associates of the Outfit? Let alone have connections to Chicago?
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#660003 - 08/13/12 08:56 PM Re: St. Louis and Chicago Outfit Family Charts [Re: furio_from_naples]
m2w Offline

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Registered: 02/07/11
Posts: 775
if they are not retired and they have not an own family anymore they should answer to somebody according to mafia rules
in sicily when a family has only a few made men left is put under the supervision of a next one

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