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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Buttmunker] #586609
11/25/10 05:19 AM
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another great episode, and things just keep building up. its going to suck when season 1 ends, because it probably will take another year for the 2nd season to start.

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Originally Posted By: Mark
http://exhibitions.library.temple.edu/prohibition/duffy.jsp

This is supposed to be the guy that Mickey Doyle is based on.


Thanks, Mark.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #586648
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so, i guess different endings compared to their real life counter-parts. i guess that will leave more room for surprises.

Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: BAM_233] #586814
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That was a good episode. I am assuming that Van Alden killed the other federal agent. It was sort of funny in a macabre way when Van Alden was asking him to come down to be baptised and he was like "I'd really rather not" and "They're not MY beliefs". Van Alden is seriously disturbed but is also cunning. Great character.

And the Commodore and Gillian -with Nucky procuring for his former boss. That was creepy but put everything else into perspective. 54 and 13. Ugh.

The Nucky-Margaret fight reminded me of the the Michael-Kay confrontation in GF2, a similar scene in Hoodlum and too many other gangster movies to list.

Jimmy's quiet dismissal of Angela was pretty powerful.

And Richard really is quite broken inside. His suggestion of murdering a number of innocent relatives to bring out the D'Allessios was brutally logical and completely evil.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #586831
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Good episode, decent ending of the season. This was the last episode of this season right? Too bad it's a big open ending as we now have to wait for months at least.

So the Commodore was Jimmy's father, that's probable. I suspect that Nucky and Jimmy's mother did had a relationship afterwards. It would explain Nucky's affection for Jimmy.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Sonny_Black] #586834
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No,next week is the last episode.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: SC] #586845
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: olivant
In the last episode, the women who was performing near the end of the episode: wasn't she also in the last entry in the Rocky series?


The woman telling the jokes and singing was supposed to be Sophie Tucker, a wonderful performer of the the times. Bette Midler does a great imitation of her (and often speaks about how funny Tucker was). I don't know the actress who portrayed her.



That's who that was???I remember Sophie Tucker. eek I knew it was somebody I had heard of, but all I could think of was Mae West, and this woman didn't come across like Mae West.

I've missed some episodes so I too have been catching up. Van Alden is acting kind of strange. I suppose he could be switching sides. He seems crazy though. Jimmy seems more and more heartless to me. A surprise that his mother was only 13 when she had him. eek

I can't believe the season finale is already next week. The HBO series are always way too short. To be honest, I am kind of losing interest in the series. I don't know, but aside from the beautiful background of the 20's, I find too many stories and too many characters. ohwell

TIS


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #586847
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
To be honest, I am kind of losing interest in the series. I don't know, but aside from the beautiful background of the 20's, I find too many stories and too many characters.


Bitch and moan, bitch and moan... that's all you ever do.

On the bright side, it looks like a lot of the loose ends and side stories will be tied up soon.

The "big connection" for me was finding out that the commodore is Jimmy's father.

FWIW- I find it funny that Van Alden, through his misguided fervor, did away with one of Nucky's sources when he drowned his assistant.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: SC] #586848
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Interesting SC. Do you really think Van Alden was completely misguided? Maybe I'm misreading your point...
I read his actions as quite purposeful. I think he saw an opportunity to both save a "heathen" soul and get a confession at the same time. Either that fellow was going to confess to being in cahoots with Nucky or he was going to die. I think Van Alden's a real sort of Knight Templar sort of character. He's creepy and cunning.

I really liked the confrontation between Margaret and Nucky. And the foreshadowing "Deception requires a willing participant" was cool.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: SC] #586849
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
To be honest, I am kind of losing interest in the series. I don't know, but aside from the beautiful background of the 20's, I find too many stories and too many characters.


Bitch and moan, bitch and moan... that's all you ever do.

On the bright side, it looks like a lot of the loose ends and side stories will be tied up soon.

The "big connection" for me was finding out that the commodore is Jimmy's father.

FWIW- I find it funny that Van Alden, through his misguided fervor, did away with one of Nucky's sources when he drowned his assistant.


LOL....What can I say. I bitch & moan. lol

I thought maybe I missed something as I quickly was catching up on missed episodes, and it was "known" that the Commodore was his father. But yea, that IS a surprise.

I'll likely at least start to watch the second season. Then again, if the season is over a year away, I might just forget about it. lol


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #586857
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Interesting SC. Do you really think Van Alden was completely misguided? Maybe I'm misreading your point...
I read his actions as quite purposeful. I think he saw an opportunity to both save a "heathen" soul and get a confession at the same time. Either that fellow was going to confess to being in cahoots with Nucky or he was going to die. I think Van Alden's a real sort of Knight Templar sort of character. He's creepy and cunning.


I didn't see Van Alden as looking for a confession... he wanted to save the "heathen" soul. He wanted to save someone who never showed any inclination, belief or interest in "being saved". Van Alden freaked when Sebso wasn't clear about his thoughts on heaven. That's WHY he wanted to save Sebso.

I'd say that is misguided. (He's a tea-partyer long before its time lol ).


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #586858
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
And Richard really is quite broken inside. His suggestion of murdering a number of innocent relatives to bring out the D'Allessios was brutally logical and completely evil.


Richard has become one of the more interesting characters in a series that I've seen in a long time.

He is so full of self-controlled rage. He can be gentle and quite charming and quite sensitive yet a minute later he can be totally deadly.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: SC] #586883
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Lilo
And Richard really is quite broken inside. His suggestion of murdering a number of innocent relatives to bring out the D'Allessios was brutally logical and completely evil.


Richard has become one of the more interesting characters in a series that I've seen in a long time.

He is so full of self-controlled rage. He can be gentle and quite charming and quite sensitive yet a minute later he can be totally deadly.


He's also a helluva shot!


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Don Marco] #586887
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I'm assuming it was Gillian and LuAnn who were poisoning the Commodore (did Gillian get the Paris Green from Angela) but short of a delayed 20+ year revenge for getting her pregnant at 13 and not really being a father to Jimmy, what's in it for Gillian? Does anyone think she might be in the will?

Also since the Doctor knows the Commodore was poisoned, won't someone have to "convince" him to keep his mouth shut?

How does Van Alden intend to explain away Sebso's death?

Last edited by Lilo; 11/30/10 12:58 PM.

"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #586894
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The Commodore said to Jimmy "This city is run by the wrong man".

I wonder what he exactly meant by that as he probably implicated Nucky.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Sonny_Black] #586940
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is it really the last episode?


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mukremin] #586960
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I love how completely batshit insane Van Alden is.

Harrow had a good point, that would bring the others out of hiding.

Harrow is an awesome character, I hope he stays around for a long time.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Longneck] #587150
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OK... who is gonna die Sunday night? (the series' Season One finale).

Have a look at this (interesting) site by clicking on the link below:

WHO WILL DIE? - CLICK HERE


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My money's on a non-major character. Maybe Angela or Lucy.


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I think the rest of the D'Allessio brothers will depart this vale of tears.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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i'll take a guess here...either capone or rothstein j/k lol

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We know it's not the commodore's dog - he's already gone.

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Originally Posted By: Mark
We know it's not the commodore's dog - he's already gone.


did they poison the dog or did it die of natural causes...or did it piss off the wrong person?

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The Commodore gave the dog some of his food over the maid's objections.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
did they poison the dog or did it die of natural causes...or did it piss off the wrong person?


Maybe it pissed ON the wrong person. whistle


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God, I'm in love with Margaret. She is one fine actress and character.

So, Jimmy, the Commodore, and Eli vs. Nucky. Where will it end?


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Dunno, but we're gonna have to wait awhile to find out. frown


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Did Nucky pay the maid to poison the Commodore?




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

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Originally Posted By: Longneck
Did Nucky pay the maid to poison the Commodore?


I don't think Nucky paid her to poison the Commodore as much as he didn't want any bad publicity around election time. He may have suspected something else as well. What was that look he gave when she gave him the Bible.

Anyway the maid (LuAnne??) was definitely in on it but I think that Gillian was also involved. The Paris Green paint was something that Angela would have been using and it would have been easy for Gillian to pocket it and convince the maid to use it. Both women had grievances against the Commodore.

The reason I think this to be the case is that the Commodore only started getting better after Jimmy confronts Gillian.

LuAnne is just a patsy.
A portly pastry patsy.
A portly pastry patsy working with a pastie wearing pragmatic prostitute possessing pent up passions.. lol


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Looks like Margaret was not so righteous after all.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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